Zingari Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 looks like this book and his lecture tour of the uk is set to cause some trouble in the academic world; http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Im avoiding this thread (Appart from this post)
andyh1884 Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Race issue - check Keith Vaz throwing his 2 cents in - check
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Read the comments for that article - it's like war in words!!!
Geo V Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Its an uncomfortable subject but the facts are physically and mentally, people differ from race to race. I'm not saying that what this guy is saying is accurate regarding Black people being intelligent or not as I am not knowledgeable enough of how he gets his hypothesis but he is meant to be a Nobel prize winning scientist who won the prize for his part in discovering the structure of DNA so at least deserves to be listened to regarding his theories? One thing for sure is that whatever someone says that is detrimental to a select group of people is never welcomed and nor should it be! Its one of those statements which isn't helpful at all unless he expects employers not to hire black people on the basis of what his hypothesis?! One thing that he did say that I totally agree with is "that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level†As a manager in a previous life of at times over 100 members of staff in retail, I have at times been told to get rid of some black people as there were too many in and at another smaller office based company I was advised that when hiring the next 3 temps to make sure they were from ethnic groups. Lets judge every individual on their merits and not on preconceived notions.
Zingari Posted 18 October 2007 Author Posted 18 October 2007 Its an uncomfortable subject but the facts are physically and mentally, people differ from race to race. I'm not saying that what this guy is saying is accurate regarding Black people being intelligent or not as I am not knowledgeable enough of how he gets his hypothesis but he is meant to be a Nobel prize winning scientist who won the prize for his part in discovering the structure of DNA so at least deserves to be listened to regarding his theories?One thing for sure is that whatever someone says that is detrimental to a select group of people is never welcomed and nor should it be! Its one of those statements which isn't helpful at all unless he expects employers not to hire black people on the basis of what his hypothesis?! One thing that he did say that I totally agree with is "that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level†As a manager in a previous life of at times over 100 members of staff in retail, I have at times been told to get rid of some black people as there were too many in and at another smaller office based company I was advised that when hiring the next 3 temps to make sure they were from ethnic groups. Lets judge every individual on their merits and not on preconceived notions. spot on ; but if only it was so simple ; i know only too well that i judge people on appearance etc and however hard i try , somehow i cannot help it , it is even said that taller people get promoted more readily than shorter ones so i guess i'm not alone
Raj Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 I have a saying which will go down in history when i die. " A tw@t is a tw@t. It doesn't matter about the colour of his skin" Great isn't it!
Geo V Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Once again I am not saying that this dude is talking sense as I have no idea how he got to his statement but would white people or really non back people be offended if someone came out to say that black guys have naturally more athletic builds than the rest thus making them better equipped to be good in certain sports?! Go and watch the NBA or American footy and count how many non black dudes are participating! Would someone take offence if I said the pigment in the skin on black people keeps them looking younger than the rest?! As someone who has dated a few ladies of colour down the years I can say that I was amazed at how well some of the girls mums looked! They look as young as the girls I was dating at times! That is just part of their DNA and their skin doesn't seem to deteriorate as lets say some of the lovely Greek lasses who hit 40 and be come haggered I know I have switched the topic to the physical side of things but the comments above are true whether or not someone wants to come on board and refute them!
Ultra Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Any scientist, no matter how eminent, seeking to revive and peddle the repulsive and discredited concept of a "master" race deserves nothing but the highest contempt. This guy should be deported, and once back in his homeland, encouraged to seek the help he so clearly needs. His mind is starting to play tricks on him.
Thracian Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Once again I am not saying that this dude is talking sense as I have no idea how he got to his statement but would white people or really non back people be offended if someone came out to say that black guys have naturally more athletic builds than the rest thus making them better equipped to be good in certain sports?! Go and watch the NBA or American footy and count how many non black dudes are participating! Would someone take offence if I said the pigment in the skin on black people keeps them looking younger than the rest?! As someone who has dated a few ladies of colour down the years I can say that I was amazed at how well some of the girls mums looked! They look as young as the girls I was dating at times! That is just part of their DNA and their skin doesn't seem to deteriorate as lets say some of the lovely Greek lasses who hit 40 and be come haggered I know I have switched the topic to the physical side of things but the comments above are true whether or not someone wants to come on board and refute them! Bloody hell there's some big subjects there. And one thing is for sure. There are some who would not have you debate the subjects freely at all. The very idea of genuinely free speech - as opposed to socially manipulated adherence to a way of thinking - makes them cringe. Control is what they want, not only in aspects of our lives but also of our minds. And the fact is that reasonable people will invariably bow to pressure if that pressure is strong enough and repeated often enough. PS: The scientist is talking twaddle. Invariably when I see a black guy he's surrounded by women. As I see it that's either cos of his intelligence or the reputed size of his cock - or both. If it is his intellegence that attracts, that shows our scientist is way off the mark straight away. If it's the size of his cock then if we white blokes were really as bright as the scientist says then we'd have sorted the problem by now. PPS: I didn't have you down as a MILF fan.
Geo V Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 Bloody hell there's some big subjects there. And one thing is for sure. There are some who would not have you debate the subjects freely at all. The very idea of genuinely free speech - as opposed to socially manipulated adherence to a way of thinking - makes them cringe. Control is what they want, not only in aspects of our lives but also of our minds. And the fact is that reasonable people will invariably bow to pressure if that pressure is strong enough and repeated often enough. PS: The scientist is talking twaddle. Invariably when I see a black guy he's surrounded by women. As I see it that's either cos of his intelligence or the reputed size of his cock - or both. If it is his intellegence that attracts, that shows our scientist is way off the mark straight away. If it's the size of his cock then if we white blokes were really as bright as the scientist says then we'd have sorted the problem by now. PPS: I didn't have you down as a MILF fan. This is as bad as when that Ricky Gervais character on The Office made the joke about a BMC so to speak! I dont think the scientist was going on about attraction but just intelligence. He sounds like a bit of an arse to be fair having lloked at some other stuff on the net after being alerted to the article earlier. Anyway, I am of foreign parentage as people will know and have often mentioned that I have a son through a South American lass and my son is of mixed race. My friends are like a United Nations delegation with all creeds and colours catered for and I am totally at ease when discussing these types of matters. Its only the closet racists who find it uncomfortable in getting into these types of discussions although you did try and spoil it by bring in black geezers shclongs FFS!!
Thracian Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 This is as bad as when that Ricky Gervais character on The Office made the joke about a BMC so to speak!I dont think the scientist was going on about attraction but just intelligence. He sounds like a bit of an arse to be fair having lloked at some other stuff on the net after being alerted to the article earlier. Anyway, I am of foreign parentage as people will know and have often mentioned that I have a son through a South American lass and my son is of mixed race. My friends are like a United Nations delegation with all creeds and colours catered for and I am totally at ease when discussing these types of matters. Its only the closet racists who find it uncomfortable in getting into these types of discussions although you did try and spoil it by bring in black geezers shclongs FFS!! It was very light-hearted. PS: Did we almost agree there? :thumbsup:
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 18 October 2007 Posted 18 October 2007 It was very light-hearted. PS: Did we almost agree there? :thumbsup: Are you 2 like umm thinking about hooking up know
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