Finnegan Posted 3 March 2008 Posted 3 March 2008 So I got through all of Flogging Molly's new album last night (presuming that's all of it on their MySpace) and I have to say I'm only really impressed with one song (No More Paddy's Lament.) The rest of it just sort of... lacked. I had a similar feeling when I listened to Within A Mile Of Home and I still even now don't listen to all of that CD, but at least I recognized that the title song, Screaming At..., Whistles the Wind and Queen Anne's Revenge all had the potential to grow on me. With the exception of Punch Drunk Grinning Soul I really don't see that potential in any of these songs. So after finding out Molly had a new album out and the Tossers were about to release a new live record it dawned on me I was well out of touch, and went poking around the Murphy's website. Lifted the track listing for their new album and had a look-see on YouTube. What a load of dross, they've really jumped the shark. They've seriously lacked "edge" since Sing Loud, Sing Proud but at least Blackout and Warrior's Code offered just about enough grit to merit paying for them, I was left massively uninspired by the bits of the Meanest of Times and can't see myself rushing out to buy it. Some Street Dogs (massively overrated) fan was crying on about the DKM having really been a characterture of themselves since Mike left and at the time I gave him a bit of a mouthful about being pretentious, but I have to say that nowdays I agree. Kinda nice though to see the Tossers as the longest standing of the 'big three' to keep their integrity and decency (I got Agony when it came out, that's a great record), looking forward to hearing the live disc. If the recording quality's decent it should be mint.
Jay Posted 4 March 2008 Posted 4 March 2008 I certainly get what you are on about but I don't think it's something that is just having an affect on Folk Punk bands but Punk in general I am fast finding myself hunting out new styles and genres or revisiting some of the old favourites even labels like Epitaph which have been at the forefront of Alternative music for 20years as just becoming stagnant and releasing nothing of interest. With so called Punk anarchists like Anti Flag signed up to corporate major labels and Gallows albums "the new punk heroes" available in Asda it's difficult times ahead and over the past 12months I have heard very few headturning punk rock albums and I can't really see where the next one is coming from. As for the main topic folk punk I will start with the Murphys in a word the last album was shite and lacked just about everything I have loved over the years about the Murphys, I am really not sure what direction they are trying to go with the album being the first release on their own record label I was expecting something special but what I got was anything but it was a total disappointment. I have also had a lukewarm response to the new Molly album like you it hasn't had the instant impact something like Drunken Lullabies had it just makes me want to listen to that instead!!! The Tossers however have to be my favourites they seem to want to stick with being more traditional but in a modern sense if you get what I mean I just hope it continues!!
placidcasual Posted 6 March 2008 Posted 6 March 2008 Immigrant punk. Indeed. I need to get a t-shirt printed with that on. I already have a Hockey Punk one. Apparently the guitarist has left DKM due to "musical direction"
Finnegan Posted 7 March 2008 Author Posted 7 March 2008 Wouldn't surprise me at all. Like we were saying, their latest stuff has seriously sucked. I own this tee...
The People's Hero Posted 7 March 2008 Posted 7 March 2008 I quite enjoy most of what The Tossers have done. Might check out a few of the others, what do you recommend as a starting point for DKM/FM etc?
Jay Posted 7 March 2008 Posted 7 March 2008 I quite enjoy most of what The Tossers have done.Might check out a few of the others, what do you recommend as a starting point for DKM/FM etc? can sort you out with some over the weekend if you wish?
The People's Hero Posted 7 March 2008 Posted 7 March 2008 That'd be great, but how do you mean? I won't be at the game mate. At least, I don't think I will (I'm trying to sort something but it's unlikely).
Jay Posted 7 March 2008 Posted 7 March 2008 That'd be great, but how do you mean?I won't be at the game mate. At least, I don't think I will (I'm trying to sort something but it's unlikely). Well it's up to you? I could either... upload some to yousendit or similar OR If you trusted me... PM Your address and I will stick a couple of cds in the post nothing fancy no covers and all that nonsense. The choice is yours!!
Finnegan Posted 7 March 2008 Author Posted 7 March 2008 I quite enjoy most of what The Tossers have done.Might check out a few of the others, what do you recommend as a starting point for DKM/FM etc? Er, from the Tossers I'd try Flogging Molly next. If you've a general interest in punkier music than the Murphys are a great act, but they're a little more conventional and a little less... well, folky. I'll whip up a 'Greatest Hits' of Flogging Molly and WinRAR it. Check back within the hour!
Finnegan Posted 7 March 2008 Author Posted 7 March 2008 Er it's uploading now, and will apparently take an hour (don't worry, it's only 50meg, my connection's just being whoreish.) I've slapped on some of the more obvious, more accessible stuff and a couple of my favourite album tracks (Kilburn High Road, Rare Ould Times, Ol'Beggar's Bush) but mostly everything you NEED to hear, is there. With the exception of What's Left of the Flag - which I would be crucified for saying, but is slightly overplayed. (Sorry, Dave King!) Edit: While you're waiting, this is pretty essential if you can listen to YouTube videos at work.
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2008 Author Posted 11 March 2008 Got your message, Jimbo, but I'm well out of credit (and money.) And yeah my media player's full of old Clancy Brothers, Fureys, Dubliners, etc. I'm not quite sure where the folky obsession came from, really, probably my old man. The Young Dubliners ( @ that video) are well worth a listen too, but Molly's Drunken Lullabies and the Tosser's Long Dim Road are always going to be favourite albums.
The People's Hero Posted 11 March 2008 Posted 11 March 2008 Got your message, Jimbo, but I'm well out of credit (and money.)And yeah my media player's full of old Clancy Brothers, Fureys, Dubliners, etc. I'm not quite sure where the folky obsession came from, really, probably my old man. The Young Dubliners ( @ that video) are well worth a listen too, but Molly's Drunken Lullabies and the Tosser's Long Dim Road are always going to be favourite albums. My mum used to listen to The Fureys, I really like them. Have enjoyed both what you uploaded and also what Jay sent me (both much appreciated). I listened to Drunken Lullabies last night. Quite enjoyable. Felt like I knew all the melodies, despite never having heard them before. I suppose a lot of it is based on old, traditional standards etc.
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2008 Author Posted 11 March 2008 Funny you should say that, I know exactly what you mean. Especially with a lot of the jigs, you should try and get your hands on a copy of the album Swagger. Most of that is Jigs (I sent you Devil's Dance Floor, Likes of You Again and Ol'Beggar's Bush from that LP) and from the very first listen they all feel so familiar and so, just, I dunno. Fun I guess. I've got one of their first releases, Live Behind the Green Door someone amongst my CDs but not on my computer. If I remember to stick that on my computer later I'll send you "Laura." Probably the best song to never make it onto a full album. edit: Erm, this is the studio version they did for the DVD. I'm not as keen on this as I was with the earlier live version, but it's "cleaner" I guess. Here you go. Haha. Why does every song in the world have some shit Japanese cartoon tribute video on You Tube? Oh well, it serves it's musical purpose.
The People's Hero Posted 11 March 2008 Posted 11 March 2008 Cheers, I'll give that a clickedy-click later on. As for youtube music videos, my favourites are people dancing to the songs. They fall in to 1 of 2 camps. 1) Ridiculously bad (funny). 2) Take themselves far too seriously (funny).
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2008 Author Posted 11 March 2008 I tell you what I hate. Teenage kids (often girls, or guys with accoustic guitars... and silly haircuts) doing "cover versions" (impersonations, basically) of cheesey pop songs in whiney American (or put-on American) accents. And then everyone else is like "Wow you have a great voice! ^_____^!" <_< Euch.
The People's Hero Posted 11 March 2008 Posted 11 March 2008 ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! U R SEW RITE!!!!!!!!!! By the way, The Fureys (although presumably minus Davey Arthur) are playing in Maidstone in May. You should come down and we can ZOMG at them.
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2008 Author Posted 11 March 2008 And stand infront of a webcam with plastic Irish accents, an accoustic guitar and rock up YouTube in the aftermath?
The People's Hero Posted 11 March 2008 Posted 11 March 2008 And stand infront of a webcam with plastic Irish accents, an accoustic guitar and rock up YouTube in the aftermath? Yep. I believe I even have a couple of guiness hats, badges and inflatables at home. Why did the Irishman wear 2 condoms? To be sure, to be sure.
Jordan Posted 16 March 2008 Posted 16 March 2008 If you want some strange hybrid of "folk" and "punk," why would you look all the way to Boston, Massachusetts for something that's completely cheesy when you've had the Mekons in your own country for the past 31 years?
Finnegan Posted 16 March 2008 Author Posted 16 March 2008 I'd always associated the Mekons with post punk and kinda, well, countryish sort of stuff to be honest. And the Dropkick Murphys weren't always cheesey, perse.
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