MK Dons V Leeds

[Part Of The Crowd]

I'm not basing my decision from the viewpoint of history, as Franchise have none.

Oh, and on your accusation of Wimbledon?

speak to any kingstonian fan, AFC have bought the ground from Kingstonian and are starting to increase the rent, kingstonian can make no money from gates if they do not legally own the stadium any more, eventually they will have to move or go bust and AFC are going to sit there and be the catalyst and not help at all, smacks of hypocrisy a bit?

Isn't this a city forum?

I don't get it when people come here and get 50 posts on a forum about another club...

that's like me shitting on your wifes chest. bugger off

last time i checked this is the section for general debate on football, city related or not, believe it or not there are some posters on other forums for teams not related to the forum that have well over 2,000 posts, its part of interaction and socialising between fans and an opportunity to create banter

[Samilktray]

So who were Wimbledon again ?

[Jack]

speak to any kingstonian fan, AFC have bought the ground from Kingstonian and are starting to increase the rent, kingstonian can make no money from gates if they do not legally own the stadium any more, eventually they will have to move or go bust and AFC are going to sit there and be the catalyst and not help at all, smacks of hypocrisy a bit?

last time i checked this is the section for general debate on football, city related or not, believe it or not there are some posters on other forums for teams not related to the forum that have well over 2,000 posts, its part of interaction and socialising between fans and an opportunity to create banter

Fair enough and all that but you are god damn boring, speak about something interesting, lad.

[Part Of The Crowd]

MK Dons by a country mile.

Horrible plastic club/fans created by a franchise style move that epitomises everything that's wrong with modern football vs. a classic english team, cracking traditional ground, passionate fans that sings their hearts out, haven't sat down at an away game in years and still pile into elland road to the tune of 30,000 despite that willy puller bates charging them premiership prices.

Yes, leeds has a larger proportion of fans that are w*nkers than most clubs (and for that reason they are far from my favourite team) but 85% are not.

Do most of you even remember why you hate leeds so much?

i have to disagree with you about the fans, firstly for a group of fans that had no team a few years ago (that is what most mk fans are, new fans) there is a strong affinity with the club, to be getting gates of nearly 10,000 regularly in league one is not an easy task, you and leeds have premiership fanbases and it shows, huddersfield offer a season ticket for £100 and they get alot but apart from that we have the highest average, the fans are a really friendly bunch of people who are willing to have a laugh at themselves and at away games they sing from start to finish non stop and turn out in increasing numbers.

our support is reaching three times the average we had when we moved to MK and is still growing, year on year, whatever happens, despite the relegations and battles and play off losses the attendance has not yet dropped

[Part Of The Crowd]

So who were Wimbledon again ?

a club put in the brown stuff by an idiot greedy board with people such as sam hamman and the norwegians and also by the council who obviously didn't want football in wimbledon because it might sully the tennis tournament.

milton keynes was the last option and it was preferable to many others such as the 'dublin dons' or simply disapearing, at least this way pleasure of watching a team could be enjoyed by a hardy remnant and jobs would of been saved.

the way i think of it is always that while AFC claim to be the real wimbledon they were actually created years before the move, not only that but they claim the history of a team that was still playing at the time of their formation. if those thousands of fans hadn't gone off and left the team when WFC mvoed to selhurst there was a much larger chance that the team would of survived as it would have had at least a moderately decent cash flow. now AFC are hypocritically doing an almost identical thing to kingstonian, AFC are quite disliked in the non league, and despite their relatively huge fanbase they have the audacity to ask other clubs and fans for money

[Part Of The Crowd]

anyway, this thread was meant to be about simply who you want to win at the weekend, this affects your team so i feel it is a fair enough question to ask, and it is even in the general football and sport section.

[Jack]

a club put in the brown stuff by an idiot greedy board with people such as sam hamman and the norwegians and also by the council who obviously didn't want football in wimbledon because it might sully the tennis tournament.

milton keynes was the last option and it was preferable to many others such as the 'dublin dons' or simply disapearing, at least this way pleasure of watching a team could be enjoyed by a hardy remnant and jobs would of been saved.

the way i think of it is always that while AFC claim to be the real wimbledon they were actually created years before the move, not only that but they claim the history of a team that was still playing at the time of their formation. if those thousands of fans hadn't gone off and left the team when WFC mvoed to selhurst there was a much larger chance that the team would of survived as it would have had at least a moderately decent cash flow. now AFC are hypocritically doing an almost identical thing to kingstonian, AFC are quite disliked in the non league, and despite their relatively huge fanbase they have the audacity to ask other clubs and fans for money

Woah! You really have just backed up my statement.

[Part Of The Crowd]

if this were my own forum to cheer up the thread i would mention wolfy, our ever so lovely homeless alcoholic that comes to every game dressed in a leapord print outfit, never fails to liven the place up

[Jack]

if this were my own forum to cheer up the thread i would mention wolfy, our ever so lovely homeless alcoholic that comes to every game dressed in a leapord print outfit, never fails to liven the place up

Good ol' Wolfy, eh.

[Shrenchel]

if this were my own forum to cheer up the thread i would mention wolfy, our ever so lovely homeless alcoholic that comes to every game dressed in a leapord print outfit, never fails to liven the place up

Having a wino that goes to your games does not mean your club has any sort of character. You could have 500 crack addicts coming along and joining in with the rest of your ****** droning mk army for the whole game but it still wouldn't give any sort of character/history.

[Samilktray]

So that guy moved Wimbledon to MK to make money ?

[DB11]

I want a 0-0

[CosbehFox]

and for the record, AFC are going through the motions of forcing Kingstonian from their ground, they don't even play in wimbledon, dirty franchisers!

You mean Kingstonian, the club which has had two benefactors pull out of because it's simply not workable. That said AFC are not angels but they've been cornered into such actions because Hamman left them with nothing unlike AFC Telford and the rest.

AFC are quite disliked in the non league, and despite their relatively huge fanbase they have the audacity to ask other clubs and fans for money

But they'll (other clubs) happily take the money when they give them their biggest crowd of the season.

I've already graced Stadium:MK - so I am morally wrong really and I see MK Dons as a seperate team now but I think they'd be wise to drop the Dons in the next couple of seasons because as long as that stands they'll always be a connection to the original Wimbledon.

I'd like to see a Leeds win for the benefit of our position plus I think we'll avoid a Leeds backlash on Boxing Day. Be warned Mr.MK, it will not be nice having 5,000 devil worshippers on your turf.

[Darkzzz_]

I don't really agree with the way the MK Dons were formed, Ok MK is a thriving City and it is great for them to have a team, but to take that team from somewhere else and just basically move it with a name change is pretty terrible.

I just can't look at there fans the same as I do other fans, Because it seems false. Maybe that will change in time.

This is not to say that I hate them, I think they have shown they are serious when it comes to Football. They have a chairman who has spent millions and a manager who has come in and done wonders on his first managerial position.

I wish them well, Like Lovejoy mentioned above I see MK Dons as more of a threat than Leeds.

I really dislike Leeds, The way they have gloated over the years about how big they are (were!) it seems they always have something to say.

The only thing I like about Leeds is Gary Mac.

For me I don't care about the result, My only concern is Leicester City.

[Fosse Boy]

anyway, this thread was meant to be about simply who you want to win at the weekend, this affects your team so i feel it is a fair enough question to ask, and it is even in the general football and sport section.

Look, you can't expect to come on to a different fans forum and not expect to take some kind of flak for the way your club was formed. I'm afraid that not all of us still think the whole Franchise thing was a wonderful and innovative endeavour. There are still those of us who believe that the move was totally wrong and you seem to leap immediately on the defensive when anyone on this forum takes you to task for that.

i have to disagree with you about the fans, firstly for a group of fans that had no team a few years ago (that is what most mk fans are, new fans) there is a strong affinity with the club, to be getting gates of nearly 10,000 regularly in league one is not an easy task, you and leeds have premiership fanbases and it shows, huddersfield offer a season ticket for £100 and they get alot but apart from that we have the highest average, the fans are a really friendly bunch of people who are willing to have a laugh at themselves and at away games they sing from start to finish non stop and turn out in increasing numbers.

our support is reaching three times the average we had when we moved to MK and is still growing, year on year, whatever happens, despite the relegations and battles and play off losses the attendance has not yet dropped

Aw diddums. Did it not occur to anyone in the MK area, or indeed Wankleman, that they should take the honourable route up the pyramid system and simply build up a non-league team from scratch that had its roots in MK? Y'know, like every other club in the country did? Sure, Milton Keynes is a burgeoning new town with a large population base, but that doesn't man that it should have a divine right to league football. That's not the way that sport works in this country.

a club put in the brown stuff by an idiot greedy board with people such as sam hamman and the norwegians and also by the council who obviously didn't want football in wimbledon because it might sully the tennis tournament.

I'm not going to argue that the Norwegians were at fault for the club's fairly poor financial state, and that selling the club to Wankleman was unforgivable given that they knew his intentions from the off, but to say that Merton Council were to blame is just plain daft.

milton keynes was the last option and it was preferable to many others such as the 'dublin dons' or simply disapearing, at least this way pleasure of watching a team could be enjoyed by a hardy remnant and jobs would of been saved.

It very definitely wasn't the last option. Wankleman and his cronies over-exaggerated the extent of Wimbledon's financial peril from day one. He'd previously tried to do the same thing with Luton Town and QPR, but luckily their owners were too wise and decided not to sell. Oh, and I'd imagine that most Wimbledon fans would have preferred to have gone bust and started again lower down the pyramid rather than have their name changed, their club colours changed and their home stadium moved seventy miles up the road! I know I would if (God Forbid) such a thing were ever to happen to City.

the way i think of it is always that while AFC claim to be the real wimbledon they were actually created years before the move, not only that but they claim the history of a team that was still playing at the time of their formation. if those thousands of fans hadn't gone off and left the team when WFC mvoed to selhurst there was a much larger chance that the team would of survived as it would have had at least a moderately decent cash flow. now AFC are hypocritically doing an almost identical thing to kingstonian, AFC are quite disliked in the non league, and despite their relatively huge fanbase they have the audacity to ask other clubs and fans for money

:frusty:

Franchise fans always trot out this line. Yes, AFC Wimbledon were formed before the move took place, but they were only established AFTER the move was confirmed and sanctioned by the FA. Why would they want to continue watching a side that was about to be taken from them just a year later? I would most likely do exactly the same thing, support a protest club which was formed in order to continue to serve the community which was to be rendered clubless in just a year's time.

No matter how you try and justify the move, you can't. If Milton Keynes wanted a football club so desperately, then any interested parties should have invested heavily in the local non-league scene, a la Truro City or Rushden & Diamonds.

[CosbehFox]

Truro City or Rushden & Diamonds.

Some people view them as the bastardisation of non-league football.

[dandannieldanok]

I want Leeds to win purely because MK Dons are a bigger threat to us at the minute, no other reason.

[Fosse Boy]

Some people view them as the bastardisation of non-league football.

Of course they do. I've no problem with non-league football fans who dislike these clubs purely for the fact that they're fast tracking their way up the league pyramid because they have a sugar daddy. I'm just saying that if the population of Milton Keynes wanted league football so badly, that's the way they should've gone about it, rather than stealing a club which already had a place in the league.

[Samilktray]

[Fosse Boy]

And that is meant to be...?

[Samilktray]

And that is meant to be...?

Mk Dons celebrating promotion...

[dandannieldanok]

Where's Lloyd!?!

[Samilktray]

Where's Lloyd!?!

Sorry boss.

[Jack]

Super Dons!

[Fosse Boy]

Super Dons!

AFC Wimbledon are the real Dons. The nickname "Dons" has nowt to do with Milton Keynes.