BartonFox Posted 21 April 2005 Posted 21 April 2005 What exactly did you do to warrant the praise and adulation so seem to think you deserve from Leicester City fans?
Anish Posted 21 April 2005 Posted 21 April 2005 You've lost it. 96797[/snapback] Answer the question - why do you adore MA so much?
FNQ Posted 21 April 2005 Posted 21 April 2005 I wouldn't say I adore him. I just think he did a terrefic job when he was here and was treated incredibly unfairly by the supporters. He took over the club when they were in huge financial shit, and managed to somehow guide us to the premiership under the tightest of constraints. He then battled hard for us in the Premiership, where we were huge favourites to go down, and almost pulled of what would have been one of the most miraculous survivals. In fact, we should have stayed up. He was loyal to us, through some of the toughest times the club will ever experience when many would have jumped ship. Throughout his career he has proved himself to be a top manager.
BartonFox Posted 21 April 2005 Author Posted 21 April 2005 I wouldn't say I adore him. I just think he did a terrefic job when he was here and was treated incredibly unfairly by the supporters.He took over the club when they were in huge financial shit, and managed to somehow guide us to the premiership under the tightest of constraints. He then battled hard for us in the Premiership, where we were huge favourites to go down, and almost pulled of what would have been one of the most miraculous survivals. In fact, we should have stayed up. He was loyal to us, through some of the toughest times the club will ever experience when many would have jumped ship. Throughout his career he has proved himself to be a top manager. 96813[/snapback] Alternative take might be - He came with Bassett and took over when we went down after stamping his feet in a tantrum. The following season we spiral into admin and the players faced with defered wages and potential bonuses play their socks off until promotion at which point they don't bother pressing for the title. Also people harp on about Adams not being able to bring in his own players, looking at his record probably just as well. When he did get the chance to build a side he didn't do a great job and his tactical ineptness was there for all to see. We lacked discipline on the field and well La Manga. We went down because of many documented tactical errors when we should have stayed up. So he got another chance to build a team and made the exact same mistakes, relied on Cork and Bassett who it turns out was still gunning for his job, Might have something to do with Adams tantrum way back. Just another way to look at his time at the Club.
Hullfox Posted 21 April 2005 Posted 21 April 2005 You've lost it. 96797[/snapback] Answer the question - why do you adore MA so much? 96803[/snapback] Seems to me that when somebody who likes Mickey mentions his name it's time to let go but when he's criticised it's okay to discuss him on the forum.
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton.
shen Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton. 96874[/snapback] ...And you can harp on about him as much as you like Chandler. This won't bring him back. Ever. Credit to him for doing ever so well in getting us promoted, but it all hinged on his gamble that summer. He gambled, and opted to sign short-term players who he hoped would make us survive 1 year in the Prem. It would have bought us time and given us some cash to further strengthen the squad the next summer. But the gamble didn't pay off, and that is ultimately why he isn't here now. The fans and the board might have had too high expectations, and Micky just didn't live up to them. On top of that, his stay here must've had an enormous impact on his personality and maybe even his private life. We know La Manga left him and Dickov destroyed amongst others. From that perspective and the pressure he was under, I feel it was good he left. If just for his own and his family's sake. I agree that most fans on here are not giving Adams enough credit for his achievements and likewise I feel you are letting Adams off the hook too easily. If the board told him to take the gamble or if it was his own choice, I can't say, but the fact he did, and it failed, meant someone had to pay the price. But I don't like the way you're being so hostile towards many of this forums posters. You might well feel aggrieved that Micky left, and you may well choose to blame the fans for that, that's not my issue, but you talk to these posters as if they represent the majority of Leicester fans. I don't believe one second that the majority on here 'hounded out' Adams...quite the opposite! If I am proven wrong, then I will turn to the argument that at least half of these posters are under 18. With no disrespect to them, but I wouldn't expect them to recognise the broader picture of a football club, nor understand the intricate financial problems we were in, nor the effects of a 'scandal' of the La Manga incident, and they are easily influenced and carried away during games. As an example of how many fans this forum represents, just look at how effective the 'sit-in' protest against the Tigers moving in was. If you really want to have a pop at the fans, those you find 'hounded' Adams out, I suggest you find another, more effective media than this. But I just realised my opinions don't matter for you. You don't see me as a 'real' fan, so I'll just go back and have a box of Danish cookies... <_<
SamuearlJackson Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 My personal feelings on MA are that he did a great job taking us up with nothing to spend. Given the work done in the promotion campaign it would be difficult to question his motivational abilities. As already said here, I feel we were strong enough to stay up last year, and didn't due to a number of factors, including some that a manager must be held accountable for (results after all are the ultimate benchmark of managerial ability). I am pretty certain we would be higher in the league if MA was still in charge (I even think if PT had stayed in charge we would have finished with more points but still have been relegated in 2001-2002). However, the FACT that MA resigned makes up my mind that his heart was no longer in it (a feeling that a lot of people had noticed, some of whom who would have been in the moaning brigade and some who were not). MA had one chant of "you don't know what you're doing." Strong will, single mindedness, and managerial ability should have won through if he was the right man for the job this year. How can anyone argue that it was not the right thing for the club when the manager wanted to leave? Anyway, hopefully we will be better for the change come this time next season. CL MUST be given a decent shot at getting us promoted next year. Not going up next year will set the club a long way back with regards to the reduction in the wage bill to the tune of approx. 5 million quid. SamJ
BartonFox Posted 22 April 2005 Author Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton. 96874[/snapback] KEEP THE FAITH? You're right I never 'had the faith' well not the sort the Leicester Mercury dreamed up to push their latest car stickers, the one they attached to Adams picture. But then I try not to get taken in by gimmicks Yes administration was a terrible time and having been through something similar in a previous profession I can sympathise, but for one man to be given credit for getting us through is both blinkered and short sighted. I like Micky in the early days but he soon lost me during the promotion season when the quality of football was poor and his small man mentality crept through. I thought his summer signings for the PL were half decent, they may have been but he couldn't mould them and the Howey & Curtis spats in public were frankly embarassing. He signed them and couldn't control them, his fault. While the La Manga debacle was no doubt an emmense strain on him if he'd done what any sane person would have done and laid a curfew then nothing would have happened. Hell last week Partick Thistle sacked 2 players for going to the pub on a Matchday after being dropped. I had little sympathy for the glaring tactical cock-ups and even less when last summer he repeated his quick-fix policy. Again another public spat with a player, the championed Martin Keown, didn't do him any favours and the performances against Brighton, Watford and Burnley were some of the worst seen in a long time. I tried to stick with him but it was almost impossible and the time since his departure has allowed for reflection across his reign and personally I find it to be rather tainted as opposed glorious. Riddled with errors and ill discipline, a rather adhoc transfer policy and an inability to work for the future benefit of our Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it allows us to see observe peoples achievements and put them into context. He is no way our worst ever manager but for one of the supposed 'brightest young managers' he really wasn't. He lacked the foresight to improve or build a foundation that this Club so desperately needs. If you see it differently then so be it, football is subjective but I can make more cases for the prosicution than the defense.
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton. 96874[/snapback] KEEP THE FAITH? You're right I never 'had the faith' well not the sort the Leicester Mercury dreamed up to push their latest car stickers, the one they attached to Adams picture. But then I try not to get taken in by gimmicks Yes administration was a terrible time and having been through something similar in a previous profession I can sympathise, but for one man to be given credit for getting us through is both blinkered and short sighted. I like Micky in the early days but he soon lost me during the promotion season when the quality of football was poor and his small man mentality crept through. I thought his summer signings for the PL were half decent, they may have been but he couldn't mould them and the Howey & Curtis spats in public were frankly embarassing. He signed them and couldn't control them, his fault. While the La Manga debacle was no doubt an emmense strain on him if he'd done what any sane person would have done and laid a curfew then nothing would have happened. Hell last week Partick Thistle sacked 2 players for going to the pub on a Matchday after being dropped. I had little sympathy for the glaring tactical cock-ups and even less when last summer he repeated his quick-fix policy. Again another public spat with a player, the championed Martin Keown, didn't do him any favours and the performances against Brighton, Watford and Burnley were some of the worst seen in a long time. I tried to stick with him but it was almost impossible and the time since his departure has allowed for reflection across his reign and personally I find it to be rather tainted as opposed glorious. Riddled with errors and ill discipline, a rather adhoc transfer policy and an inability to work for the future benefit of our Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it allows us to see observe peoples achievements and put them into context. He is no way our worst ever manager but for one of the supposed 'brightest young managers' he really wasn't. He lacked the foresight to improve or build a foundation that this Club so desperately needs. If you see it differently then so be it, football is subjective but I can make more cases for the prosicution than the defense. 96880[/snapback] Barton Fox, do us all a favour and admit that you are a beaten man. Your 'insight' is just the moronic hindsight of the mob and you are not qualified to assess Adams' stewardship of LCFC. NOTHING that you say now distinguishes you from brain dead posters like Step. And EVERYTHING that you post is at variance with what you posted at the time. Your obsession with fashion is the big clue to your mindset. You like to FOLLOW what is in vogue. This, by definition, means disassociation from anything that is losing status or popularity. And that tendency includes ideas and opinions about anything and everything. You revised your opinion on Adams because you wanted to be part of the herd. Your 'hindsight' is not the product of rigorous analysis. It's the received 'wisdom' of semi literate adolescents. Are you willing to trade intellectual consistency and integrity (a virtue that most Scots have little time for) to be part of 'their' crowd? Are you that desparate for their approval? Now that I have made you aware of your moral failings you will, no doubt, cling like a limpet to Levein. This you would do anyway because he, like you and me, hails from that same vast moral sewer that imagines itself to be a nation. The same vast moral sewer that gave us THE BAY CITY ROLLERS! Shang-A-Lang Loser!
Chimp Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 Barton Fox, do us all a favour and admit that you are a beaten man. Your 'insight' is just the moronic hindsight of the mob and you are not qualified to assess Adams' stewardship of LCFC. NOTHING that you say now distinguishes you from brain dead posters like Step. And EVERYTHING that you post is at variance with what you posted at the time.Your obsession with fashion is the big clue to your mindset. You like to FOLLOW what is in vogue. This, by definition, means disassociation from anything that is losing status or popularity. And that tendency includes ideas and opinions about anything and everything. You revised your opinion on Adams because you wanted to be part of the herd. Your 'hindsight' is not the product of rigorous analysis. It's the received 'wisdom' of semi literate adolescents. Are you willing to trade intellectual consistency and integrity (a virtue that most Scots have little time for) to be part of 'their' crowd? Are you that desparate for their approval? Now that I have made you aware of your moral failings you will, no doubt, cling like a limpet to Levein. This you would do anyway because he, like you and me, hails from that same vast moral sewer that imagines itself to be a nation. The same vast moral sewer that gave us THE BAY CITY ROLLERS! Shang-A-Lang Loser! 96881[/snapback] Once again you fail to answer the questions put to you by Barton Fox and instead fall back to using snide remarks and superfluous commentary in an attempt to belittle his argument. For someone who purports to be of a high intellectual standard, these kind of reactionary outbursts show a high level of mental and emotional immaturity. Instead of entering into a mature debate you choose to fall back to playground bullying tactics, which would seem to indicate that you have no answer to the claims put to you. Moreover, your obsessive feelings toward MA, your predilection with belittling those around you, your superiority complex and the enjoyment you seem to derive from playing devil's advocate all point to an individual who would seem to have severe self-esteem issues. Either that, or you're just a troll. Whatever, I can't be bothered with you anymore so I'm going to do myself a favour and click here.
BartonFox Posted 22 April 2005 Author Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton. 96874[/snapback] KEEP THE FAITH? You're right I never 'had the faith' well not the sort the Leicester Mercury dreamed up to push their latest car stickers, the one they attached to Adams picture. But then I try not to get taken in by gimmicks Yes administration was a terrible time and having been through something similar in a previous profession I can sympathise, but for one man to be given credit for getting us through is both blinkered and short sighted. I like Micky in the early days but he soon lost me during the promotion season when the quality of football was poor and his small man mentality crept through. I thought his summer signings for the PL were half decent, they may have been but he couldn't mould them and the Howey & Curtis spats in public were frankly embarassing. He signed them and couldn't control them, his fault. While the La Manga debacle was no doubt an emmense strain on him if he'd done what any sane person would have done and laid a curfew then nothing would have happened. Hell last week Partick Thistle sacked 2 players for going to the pub on a Matchday after being dropped. I had little sympathy for the glaring tactical cock-ups and even less when last summer he repeated his quick-fix policy. Again another public spat with a player, the championed Martin Keown, didn't do him any favours and the performances against Brighton, Watford and Burnley were some of the worst seen in a long time. I tried to stick with him but it was almost impossible and the time since his departure has allowed for reflection across his reign and personally I find it to be rather tainted as opposed glorious. Riddled with errors and ill discipline, a rather adhoc transfer policy and an inability to work for the future benefit of our Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it allows us to see observe peoples achievements and put them into context. He is no way our worst ever manager but for one of the supposed 'brightest young managers' he really wasn't. He lacked the foresight to improve or build a foundation that this Club so desperately needs. If you see it differently then so be it, football is subjective but I can make more cases for the prosicution than the defense. 96880[/snapback] Barton Fox, do us all a favour and admit that you are a beaten man. Your 'insight' is just the moronic hindsight of the mob and you are not qualified to assess Adams' stewardship of LCFC. NOTHING that you say now distinguishes you from brain dead posters like Step. And EVERYTHING that you post is at variance with what you posted at the time. Your obsession with fashion is the big clue to your mindset. You like to FOLLOW what is in vogue. This, by definition, means disassociation from anything that is losing status or popularity. And that tendency includes ideas and opinions about anything and everything. You revised your opinion on Adams because you wanted to be part of the herd. Your 'hindsight' is not the product of rigorous analysis. It's the received 'wisdom' of semi literate adolescents. Are you willing to trade intellectual consistency and integrity (a virtue that most Scots have little time for) to be part of 'their' crowd? Are you that desparate for their approval? Now that I have made you aware of your moral failings you will, no doubt, cling like a limpet to Levein. This you would do anyway because he, like you and me, hails from that same vast moral sewer that imagines itself to be a nation. The same vast moral sewer that gave us THE BAY CITY ROLLERS! Shang-A-Lang Loser! 96881[/snapback] I thank you for the recent exchange but that last post has highlighted just how unbelievably stupid you actually are. First off you try to 'out me' like I am some sort of criminal... Sorry this is a messageboard and you have attempted to show me up infront of a load of IP addresses. After admitting that I posted things and put them into the context they were actually used for you tried to have a go at my character, something you know nothing about. In the meantime once again you have been exposed as a grade A tool. Not content you then try to label me as some sort of football casual because of the tounge in cheek tag line. As stated before this was in response to a particular thread many moons ago. I do follow fashion, but not the sort of fashion that you are trying to bracket me in. I don't own any Stone Island, Burberry check, Henri Lloyd or Aquascutum. I prefer other brands of high fashion that seperate me from the adoloscent wannabes and aging hoolies. Lastly, 'Shang-A-Lang' loser has got to be one of the worst put downs I have ever come across. If you are uncomfortable with Scotland our your own alleged Scottishness then so be it, you are clearly an insecure individual who looks to bully people in an attempt to get self gratification. The mere fact you are continually outwitted and exposed by the younger element of the site's posters is a real issue for you. When you actually answer a question posed to you and stop turning on people when you can't then you might gain the acceptance you are so desperately seeking. You pulled the wings and legs of craneflies as a kid didn't you? GS&M
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 I was there (well almost) on a grim winter's afternoon a couple of season's back. Word had just come through that we were having a hard time calling in the pledges to take us out of administration. At that moment, some of us thought we weren't going to make it and that the receivers would be called in that evening. In layman's terms that would have been the end of LCFC, the end of professional football in Leicester. One man (a high profile advisor with high profile clients) worked a not so minor miracle and succeeded into turning a drunken bar room promise into hard cash. The club was saved. But one of the administration team turned round and said 'You've only got three months. If Adams doesn't deliver the Premiership we'll be back here in May and then you really will be finished.' Because of the restrictions placed on us by the Football League everyone thought the odds were stacked against us gaining promotion. The team was stuttering after Christmas. But Adams kept it going, grinding out ugly wins and draws. He lifted the team through sheer force of personality. To be frank, during the early stages of our administration I was really concerned about Micky's antics and I wrote to Nick Dargan urging him to give Micky a dressing down over some of his idiotic statements. But Adams won me round. He kept control of the dressing room (which was on the point of mutiny over the wage deferrals -most of the players thought they would never see their back halves) and he inspired the fans to think that it was us against the world. And that wasn't as fantastic as it sounded (with ****ers like Eric Monster Hall and Pete Waterman trying to destroy us). 'Keep The Faith' was a populist master stroke. Shame you lost your faith Barton. 96874[/snapback] KEEP THE FAITH? You're right I never 'had the faith' well not the sort the Leicester Mercury dreamed up to push their latest car stickers, the one they attached to Adams picture. But then I try not to get taken in by gimmicks Yes administration was a terrible time and having been through something similar in a previous profession I can sympathise, but for one man to be given credit for getting us through is both blinkered and short sighted. I like Micky in the early days but he soon lost me during the promotion season when the quality of football was poor and his small man mentality crept through. I thought his summer signings for the PL were half decent, they may have been but he couldn't mould them and the Howey & Curtis spats in public were frankly embarassing. He signed them and couldn't control them, his fault. While the La Manga debacle was no doubt an emmense strain on him if he'd done what any sane person would have done and laid a curfew then nothing would have happened. Hell last week Partick Thistle sacked 2 players for going to the pub on a Matchday after being dropped. I had little sympathy for the glaring tactical cock-ups and even less when last summer he repeated his quick-fix policy. Again another public spat with a player, the championed Martin Keown, didn't do him any favours and the performances against Brighton, Watford and Burnley were some of the worst seen in a long time. I tried to stick with him but it was almost impossible and the time since his departure has allowed for reflection across his reign and personally I find it to be rather tainted as opposed glorious. Riddled with errors and ill discipline, a rather adhoc transfer policy and an inability to work for the future benefit of our Club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it allows us to see observe peoples achievements and put them into context. He is no way our worst ever manager but for one of the supposed 'brightest young managers' he really wasn't. He lacked the foresight to improve or build a foundation that this Club so desperately needs. If you see it differently then so be it, football is subjective but I can make more cases for the prosicution than the defense. 96880[/snapback] Barton Fox, do us all a favour and admit that you are a beaten man. Your 'insight' is just the moronic hindsight of the mob and you are not qualified to assess Adams' stewardship of LCFC. NOTHING that you say now distinguishes you from brain dead posters like Step. And EVERYTHING that you post is at variance with what you posted at the time. Your obsession with fashion is the big clue to your mindset. You like to FOLLOW what is in vogue. This, by definition, means disassociation from anything that is losing status or popularity. And that tendency includes ideas and opinions about anything and everything. You revised your opinion on Adams because you wanted to be part of the herd. Your 'hindsight' is not the product of rigorous analysis. It's the received 'wisdom' of semi literate adolescents. Are you willing to trade intellectual consistency and integrity (a virtue that most Scots have little time for) to be part of 'their' crowd? Are you that desparate for their approval? Now that I have made you aware of your moral failings you will, no doubt, cling like a limpet to Levein. This you would do anyway because he, like you and me, hails from that same vast moral sewer that imagines itself to be a nation. The same vast moral sewer that gave us THE BAY CITY ROLLERS! Shang-A-Lang Loser! 96881[/snapback] I thank you for the recent exchange but that last post has highlighted just how unbelievably stupid you actually are. First off you try to 'out me' like I am some sort of criminal... Sorry this is a messageboard and you have attempted to show me up infront of a load of IP addresses. After admitting that I posted things and put them into the context they were actually used for you tried to have a go at my character, something you know nothing about. In the meantime once again you have been exposed as a grade A tool. Not content you then try to label me as some sort of football casual because of the tounge in cheek tag line. As stated before this was in response to a particular thread many moons ago. I do follow fashion, but not the sort of fashion that you are trying to bracket me in. I don't own any Stone Island, Burberry check, Henri Lloyd or Aquascutum. I prefer other brands of high fashion that seperate me from the adoloscent wannabes and aging hoolies. Lastly, 'Shang-A-Lang' loser has got to be one of the worst put downs I have ever come across. If you are uncomfortable with Scotland our your own alleged Scottishness then so be it, you are clearly an insecure individual who looks to bully people in an attempt to get self gratification. The mere fact you are continually outwitted and exposed by the younger element of the site's posters is a real issue for you. When you actually answer a question posed to you and stop turning on people when you can't then you might gain the acceptance you are so desperately seeking. You pulled the wings and legs of craneflies as a kid didn't you? GS&M 97034[/snapback] QED - your vanity gives you away. This is like playing chess with a three year old. Bait and set the most obvious trap and you volunteer to fall into it. You are even more literal minded than our Cambridge scholar. I take great pleasure in the fact that my little insult riles you. The sheer naffness of it is a send up of what you feel is important to you. Like the cut and colour of your bumsters. I am on pretty safe ground when I say that there are few posters on this board who could 'outwit' their grannies. You should not confuse pubescent gobbiness with wit, Barton. But there again you are the last person I would expect to know the difference. You're right, I do have a sadistic streak in me. I just love to deflate pompous trendies who don't have an original thought in their head and haven't got the guts to sign up to an unpopular belief. And I just love to gloat when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. Yeah, I beat you up alright... Shang-A-Lang loser!
davieG Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. You mean like you do Chandler
TrickyTrev Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 He did do a good job initially, but it all went horribly wrong when he brought in his own players and he was required to build for the future.
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 You like to play games with 3 year olds eh? 97108[/snapback] QED - excellent example of the pubescent gobbiness that parades as wit.
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. You mean like you do Chandler 97109[/snapback] No, not quite like I do. I have always been aware of my defects. The paradox is that if I didn't have them I couldn't 'out' hypocrites and turncoats like Barton. I might come across as a bit conceited and arrogant. But I couldn't have performed a valuable public service in showing up a self styled 'deep footie thinker' to be a complete fraud without these unfortunate traits. Goes with the territory as they say
TrickyTrev Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. You mean like you do Chandler97109[/snapback] No, not quite like I do. I have always been aware of my defects. The paradox is that if I didn't have them I couldn't 'out' hypocrites and turncoats like Barton. I might come across as a bit conceited and arrogant. But I couldn't have performed a valuable public service in showing up a self styled 'deep footie thinker' to be a complete fraud without these unfortunate traits. Goes with the territory as they say 97132[/snapback] You love winding people up don't you.
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. You mean like you do Chandler97109[/snapback] No, not quite like I do. I have always been aware of my defects. The paradox is that if I didn't have them I couldn't 'out' hypocrites and turncoats like Barton. I might come across as a bit conceited and arrogant. But I couldn't have performed a valuable public service in showing up a self styled 'deep footie thinker' to be a complete fraud without these unfortunate traits. Goes with the territory as they say 97132[/snapback] You love winding people up don't you. 97135[/snapback] Nothing like a bit of hyperbole (sorry if that's a little too much for you Cambridge) to keep the punters coming back...
Simon Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 when the victim parades his personality defects in public, wearing them like a badge of honour. You mean like you do Chandler97109[/snapback] No, not quite like I do. I have always been aware of my defects. The paradox is that if I didn't have them I couldn't 'out' hypocrites and turncoats like Barton. I might come across as a bit conceited and arrogant. But I couldn't have performed a valuable public service in showing up a self styled 'deep footie thinker' to be a complete fraud without these unfortunate traits. Goes with the territory as they say 97132[/snapback] You love winding people up don't you. 97135[/snapback] Nothing like a bit of hyperbole (sorry if that's a little too much for you Cambridge) to keep the punters coming back... 97146[/snapback] Haha. My do you give us all a little entertainment during the evening
step Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 The only exaggeration is the insinuation that you are just having a laugh. You are most vindictive, self centered nutter I have ever had the misfortune to come across
Simon Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 The only exaggeration is the insinuation that you are just having a laugh.You are most vindictive, self centered nutter I have ever had the misfortune to come across 97190[/snapback] Who moi?
Chandler Posted 22 April 2005 Posted 22 April 2005 The only exaggeration is the insinuation that you are just having a laugh.You are most vindictive, self centered nutter I have ever had the misfortune to come across 97190[/snapback] Who moi? 97193[/snapback] Doh! He means ME thicko!
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