Uncle Albert Posted 26 May 2010 Posted 26 May 2010 as opposed to Chelski & Manure in england. 4 teams have won la liga in the past decade (Barcelona, Real Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo) as opposed to 3 in the Premiership (Arsenal, Chelski, Manure) Yet at the start of the season there was a possible 4 teams who could of won the English League, where as there was only ever going to be two teams who were going to challenge in La Liga and surprise surprise they dominated the League, Real finished 2nd by something like 20+ points, what does that tell you? A decade is along time so that point about four teams winning La Liga in that time is pretty irrelevent, where are Deportivo now? Not challenging for the title now and don't look like challenging anytime soon either, Valencia arent going to challenge now they are selling their best players, they sold their best player to the Champions, hardly shows they are going to be a force next season.
lcfc_jme Posted 26 May 2010 Posted 26 May 2010 Yet at the start of the season there was a possible 4 teams who could of won the English League, where as there was only ever going to be two teams who were going to challenge in La Liga and surprise surprise they dominated the League, Real finished 2nd by something like 20+ points, what does that tell you? A decade is along time so that point about four teams winning La Liga in that time is pretty irrelevent, where are Deportivo now? Not challenging for the title now and don't look like challenging anytime soon either, Valencia arent going to challenge now they are selling their best players, they sold their best player to the Champions, hardly shows they are going to be a force next season. Except there wasn't really, was there? Everyone fully expected it to be a fight between Man United and Chelsea. To say Arsenal were considered contenders at the start of the season is bordering on slightly ridiculous seeing as many people were tipping them to be the side to drop out of the top 4, and Liverpool were never likely to repeat the feats of the previous season based on their summer dealings. And next year will be much the same. Man U v Chelsea to see who the champions are. The most other clubs in the Premiership can dare to dream for is a 3rd or 4th place finish - much the same as the "boring" La Liga. Doesn't matter what points anyone raises though, you're so overly English that anything that challenges the Premier League's supposed superiority over the rest of Europe is shit, boring or overhyped by unpatriotic wasters that should just fook off to those places if they love them so much, right? As for Barcelona, their style of football is deservedly creamed over, it's a masterclass of football in its purest form and quite simply a joy to watch more often than not. Yes, at times it may be unsuccessful against more negative or bullish tactics in teams such as Chelsea or Inter at the Camp Nou, but if all teams aspired to play football the way Barca did all of the time, the game would be fitting of its "beautiful" label.
Edmund Posted 26 May 2010 Posted 26 May 2010 so your idea of defending is hacking him every time he touches the ball or kicking the sh*t outta him? He's proved himself at the highest level in club football, he's torn apart La Liga and he'd do likewise against mediocre teams like Everton and Bolton. Just because "airy fairy" Arsenal can't hack it oop north it doesn't mean Barca are the same. Better defences than Everton's and Bolton's have tried to stop him and failed - do you think the Spanish and European teams just let him waltz past them without trying to stop him? No doubt you'd love to see a Martin Taylor-esque or Shawcross type challenge on Messi to see how he handles it. The author of that article is a tool. If he wasn't so biased he might have a point but when his article denigrates into a personal attack on the manager's attire it shows he's lost the plot. Barcelona play beautiful football and naturally the best players want to play for them. Who wouldn't play for Barca if given half a chance? As for Barcelona, their style of football is deservedly creamed over, it's a masterclass of football in its purest form and quite simply a joy to watch more often than not. Yes, at times it may be unsuccessful against more negative or bullish tactics in teams such as Chelsea or Inter at the Camp Nou, but if all teams aspired to play football the way Barca did all of the time, the game would be fitting of its "beautiful" label. Spot on And Bilo great mini history lesson
Guest Bilo Posted 26 May 2010 Posted 26 May 2010 Spot on And Bilo great mini history lesson Thanks, I was reading a bit of Orwell a while ago and Homage to Catalonia was one of the pieces. I did a bit of back reading as you can see! Just shows how important football and sport in general can be.
Finnegan Posted 26 May 2010 Posted 26 May 2010 Not going to quote the whole thing and spam the board but excellent post, Bilo. Well said. I was going to do something similar, earlier, but I figured I'd incur a lot of general eye-rolling. As I alluded to earlier in the thread, I think a lot of the Barcelona dissent is this sort of hipster mentality that you can't possibly like something that's already too popular. Some reactionary objection to the plaudits that Barcelona get. Which I can sort of understand to an extent, there's a little bit of that in all of us (none more so than 'Milktray!) but I can't bring myself to buy into it here.
BlueSi13 Posted 29 May 2010 Posted 29 May 2010 Agree with the article, really can't wait for this current Barcelona/Spain jizzfest to end, its gotten horrifically tedious
Guest Bilo Posted 29 May 2010 Posted 29 May 2010 Agree with the article, really can't wait for this current Barcelona/Spain jizzfest to end, its gotten horrifically tedious Ahem....
Jordan Posted 29 May 2010 Posted 29 May 2010 Ahem.... What were they singing at Camp Nou during the 1992 Olympics, then? (Or even in the streets of Barcelona in 2008...)
Guest Bilo Posted 29 May 2010 Posted 29 May 2010 What were they singing at Camp Nou during the 1992 Olympics, then? (Or even in the streets of Barcelona in 2008...) Barcelona itself is more of a mix of Spanish and Catalan influences, but a lot of Catalans outside of the city are as likely to celebrate a Spanish win as the Welsh and Scottish are to celebrate an English one. And the 1992 Olympics were held at the Olympic Stadium, home to Espanyol which as the name suggests is the more Spanish club in Barcelona.
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