sharmanlcfc Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 Like a lot of people I was shocked when Sven was sacked, I'd go as far to say I was distraught. I loved the way the bloke handled the pressure, and I thought given time, his way of football would have been successful enough for us this season to achieve promotion. Naturally I was furious with the owners shortsightedness. Even days after the sacking, like all of you I was frustrated and disappointed being left in limbo, hopes we're raised with O'Neil, and nightmares realised with Keane. The more I think about it though, maybe there is a rationality to the way the Thai's have conducted themselves... Sven failed to turn around a slump that started towards the back end of last season, and although I maintain he saw the problems we had as a team just as well as any manager in the division, he failed to address them. Dave Whelan, who I think we'd mostly agree is a cracking chairman for the way he backs his managers, said he'd sack Martinez tomorrow if it was right for the future of Wigan. If the Thai's truely didn't have faith in Sven I think they were right to sack him. Taking off my rose tinted glasses we were not effective under Sven, I don't think they wanted to sack him, hence the lack of immediate appointment. How easy would it have been to stick with him until the end of his contract? So he's gone and lets say they appoint a manager the day afterwards, and he comes in and loses the next 3 games in the space of a week. Immediately he's under heavy pressure for results, and like what happened with Holloway with us, and Adams at Sheffield United, when your desperate for a win you often find its harder and harder. Appointing the new manager in the next few days will give them the chance to have 2 weeks to introduce a new mentality and new ideas to the players, a chance to get to know them. Nobody knows what's occurred behind closed doors, but it seems the fact the Thai's appear to have gone with Nigel Pearson suggests they've listened to people who know football. We're getting a manager who is successful at this level, I think we easily forget the immense job he did with us considering the state of the club he inherited, and the job he's done at Hull is nothing short of incredible. Whilst I'm at university now, and don't get to see many city games, I was a season ticket holder for all of Pearson's reign, and I don't remember the football being that bad at all, it was more effective than beautiful, but by no means hoofball. The Thai's so far haven't delivered the footballing success we're all craving, but off the pitch they've improved us no end. They are clever people, I don't think they sack people for the sake of it. Susan Whelan has worked for them for over 20 years. So maybe they're not as clueless as we're all making out.
escos Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 It appears to me they want the right man for the job and have sat down and heard all the applicants.Whether they choose the right one is to be seen but I for one think they have done things right. Also one question I keep asking myself is,If the last 18 months we had played the same style of football,had the same results and signed the same players but the managers name had been Roy Keane and not Sven would people still be slagging off the owners and their decision to sack the manager??
FallenAngel Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 It appears to me they want the right man for the job and have sat down and heard all the applicants.Whether they choose the right one is to be seen but I for one think they have done things right. I'll second that! Just because they have taken some time to look at all possible candidates and interview several, doesnt make it a bad thing, had they have put all their eggs in one basket and everything was made public, we'd been seen to be appointing 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice. I actually think they have handled this very professionally and kept it behind closed doors, where it should be.
who-izzet Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 I think they will have done a fantastic job if we re-sign Pearson. I think there is only a few people that won't want Pearson here for whatever reasons that I don't understand. The club was building from strength to strength under him and we still have quite a few of his players here too.
Wink Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 I'll second that! Just because they have taken some time to look at all possible candidates and interview several, doesnt make it a bad thing, had they have put all their eggs in one basket and everything was made public, we'd been seen to be appointing 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice. I actually think they have handled this very professionally and kept it behind closed doors, where it should be. Agreed! I think the MON was always our dream.. We don't actually know who has been interviewed, spoken to or even considered... It has been frustrating, but that's natural when we have ambitions like we do now! I think if Pearson is appointed then its not a bad appointment at all, he had a successful spell here and seems to be doing a decent job at hull! He knows this division, he knows the club and he knows how to get the team to play as a team! His teams may not play the sexiest football, but some would argue the same with big Sam at west ham yet I'm sure we would take their position right now playing any kind of football! Hopefully this appointment will get wrapped up soon and all the speculation can stop and we can move forward!!
dave the caveman Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 I think they thought they could just wave money at MON or Hughes and they would get on their knees and kiss their feet. They've been proven badly wrong. We've been rejected by at least three managers and possibly more. Pearson is nothing more than a desperate last resort to the owners. Experienced owners would have spoken to the managers they wanted before sacking Sven. They would have got near confirmation of who they could replace him with before sacking him. That's just basic common sense. It has cost us two opportunities to beat our rivals already, and we still have a settling in period to go. There is no way they intended to time sacking to coincide with the international break. They made an impulsive, naive decision and we will all pay for it with another failed season which can at best be described as yet another transition period. I love our owners in many ways and hope they stay for a long time, but they can and have made mistakes. Lets just hope they learn from them.
bettso Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 I think they thought they could just wave money at MON or Hughes and they would get on their knees and kiss their feet. They've been proven badly wrong. We've been rejected by at least three managers and possibly more. Pearson is nothing more than a desperate last resort to the owners. Experienced owners would have spoken to the managers they wanted before sacking Sven. They would have got near confirmation of who they could replace him with before sacking him. That's just basic common sense. It has cost us two opportunities to beat our rivals already, and we still have a settling in period to go. There is no way they intended to time sacking to coincide with the international break. They made an impulsive, naive decision and we will all pay for it with another failed season which can at best be described as yet another transition period. I love our owners in many ways and hope they stay for a long time, but they can and have made mistakes. Lets just hope they learn from them. The only mistake they made is buying the club. Pouring millions of their own cash into a club only to be critisised at the first opportunity?? What most football fans want from their owners is for them to put money in to back the manager, not stick their noses into team selection and make positive decisions with regards to all other aspects of the club. What would we prefer? Someone like Mandric who was full of empty promises and devious to the extent of farce? The Thai owners have said since day 1 that they are in this for the long haul. Top said in a recent interview that since Cardiff away last season, the results and performances have not matched the investment and if we are all honest, they havent been. Yes they could have given Sven a few more games but then the same amount of people would be critical for them wasting a few more games when things were obviously not right. The way they have gone about appointing the new manager is completely the way that things should be done. Nobody really knows who they've spoken to, who wanted the job and who has turned us down. The comments made by many about how they thought that managers would come running is conjecture and when I hear people talk of Pearson being a desperate move is purely guess work and based on nothing. They have conducted the process since Sven's sacking exactly how an appointment like this should be handled. It is not the owners fault that the papers and the bookmakers ran with such ludicrous stories and odds compiling respectively. I thank the lord that we have owners willing to put money into not just the team but the stadium and training facilities too. Now (fingers crossed) they have made the appointment that will give us the results their investment deserves.
Spiritwalker Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 According to one of todays papers, the feelers went out to MON a few weeks ago. The Thai's were told to come back when there was a vacancy. Encouraged by this theThai's sacked Sven only to be then told by MON that he didn't want it.
wurmer Posted 7 November 2011 Posted 7 November 2011 According to one of todays papers, the feelers went out to MON a few weeks ago. The Thai's were told to come back when there was a vacancy. Encouraged by this theThai's sacked Sven only to be then told by MON that he didn't want it. Which 1?
seenitall Posted 8 November 2011 Posted 8 November 2011 Hope you are all correct - I think they're amateurish and we will have to see if they stand by NP when the going gets tough and the boo boys chime up when we lose at home again (which we will at some point). Wouldn't let a 25yr old run my business, even if they'd worked in it for years already, so hats off to all of you for believing in them but my jury is a long way out at the moment
davieG Posted 8 November 2011 Posted 8 November 2011 Hope you are all correct - I think they're amateurish and we will have to see if they stand by NP when the going gets tough and the boo boys chime up when we lose at home again (which we will at some point). Wouldn't let a 25yr old run my business, even if they'd worked in it for years already, so hats off to all of you for believing in them but my jury is a long way out at the moment Wow what a blinkered ageist comment it's a good job you had no influence over these people :- http://www.retireat21.com/top-young-entrepreneurs http://juniorbiz.com/top-25-young-entrepreneurs http://www.retireat21.com/blog/the-most-successful-college-dropouts-in-history
Darkon84 Posted 8 November 2011 Posted 8 November 2011 Wow what a blinkered ageist comment it's a good job you had no influence over these people :- http://www.retireat21.com/top-young-entrepreneurs http://juniorbiz.com/top-25-young-entrepreneurs http://www.retireat21.com/blog/the-most-successful-college-dropouts-in-history
Spiritwalker Posted 8 November 2011 Posted 8 November 2011 Which 1? It was either The Sun or Star, in their sports writers column.
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