And now.. This...

[Zingari]

What's MooseBreath's opinion on this?

Do stop pestering him AoWW . It could look like you're obsessed with him .

play it a bit cooler

[Rincewind]

I thought there was software with voice recognition to type?

Also are not most letters to patients done with a template? All that needs to be filled in is the ailment patients name and time of appointment.

I once remarked to somebody that a call I made once that the person on the other hand was hard to understand because of their accent and was told that I could not say that as it would be considered racist. Now I am not racist in any way so how was I supposed to say that I could not understand them? It would be the same with a Geordie or scouse accent. I am not good with dialects.

Anyway with the technology about now a voice message can be sent anywhere in the world by Podcast, transcribed and returned within a few hours then all the doctors secretary has to do is stick a stamp on it and posted or emailed.

I'd be willing to do the job as a transcriber. £20 per letter.

The offers there for anyone needing the service.

[stez]

Ken, can you write a posts I'm the lcfc forum for me please? Something along the lines of ' levien out' cheers duck. I'd do it myself but I've not got the time, or inclination.

[Captain...]

It might be cheaper up front and without any overall joined up thinking, more people on benefits less money available to invest in the NHS but can someone explain to be me how it can be more efficient, surely if the systems are the same and why wouldn't/couldn't they be it would then come down to the quality of the people involved. Are the people in India deemed to be "naturally" better at audio typing?

Simple, exploitation of cheap labour one Indian works as fast as one brit but 2 Indians work twice as fast and still cost a lot less than one brit to employ.

I can't see anything wrong with this we have reached saturation point in the jobs market so it makes sense to outsource.

I look forward to the day India and China suddenly realises it has western companies by the short and curlies and decides that they are going to make us pay a fair wage for all the Indians we employ.

[davieG]

Simple, exploitation of cheap labour one Indian works as fast as one brit but 2 Indians work twice as fast and still cost a lot less than one brit to employ.

I can't see anything wrong with this we have reached saturation point in the jobs market so it makes sense to outsource.

I look forward to the day India and China suddenly realises it has western companies by the short and curlies and decides that they are going to make us pay a fair wage for all the Indians we employ.

I agreed it's cheaper but only if you take a short sighted view of the overall effect on the country.

I don't understand your 2nd point as they are getting rid of current employees to make this happen and do we zero unemployment level I thought it was high and rising?

[Zingari]

Simple, exploitation of cheap labour one Indian works as fast as one brit but 2 Indians work twice as fast and still cost a lot less than one brit to employ.

I can't see anything wrong with this we have reached saturation point in the jobs market so it makes sense to outsource.

I look forward to the day India and China suddenly realises it has western companies by the short and curlies and decides that they are going to make us pay a fair wage for all the Indians we employ.

I don't think they are western companies or eastern companies , but multi-national global corps, that will continue to shift around and stitch up the lower paid wherever they go.

[Captain...]

I agreed it's cheaper but only if you take a short sighted view of the overall effect on the country.

I don't understand your 2nd point as they are getting rid of current employees to make this happen and do we zero unemployment level I thought it was high and rising?

Sorry the second point was me being sarcastic I couldn't work out how to do a smiley I thought it was such a ridiculous thing to say that the sarcasm would be implied. My bad. I think this is a stupid idea, but it doesn't surprise me one bit.

When we need to be creating more jobs we seem determined to cripple the economy and leave ourselves massively exposed to the whims of foreign governments.

[davieG]

Sorry the second point was me being sarcastic I couldn't work out how to do a smiley I thought it was such a ridiculous thing to say that the sarcasm would be implied. My bad. I think this is a stupid idea, but it doesn't surprise me one bit.

When we need to be creating more jobs we seem determined to cripple the economy and leave ourselves massively exposed to the whims of foreign governments.

Ah! OK I thought we were disagreeing again

[David the Caveman]

Simple, exploitation of cheap labour one Indian works as fast as one brit but 2 Indians work twice as fast and still cost a lot less than one brit to employ.

I can't see anything wrong with this we have reached saturation point in the jobs market so it makes sense to outsource.

I look forward to the day India and China suddenly realises it has western companies by the short and curlies and decides that they are going to make us pay a fair wage for all the Indians we employ.

The wages paid by call centres in India are already fair. Young Indians aspire to work in call centres. There are doubtless some factories that employ children and slaves but they are not under the direct control of heavily regulated western companies. The local Indians are just as keen to squeeze as much as they can out of the poorer castes as you perceive 'big bad evil corporations who are fully responsible for my life being shit' to be, and in reality more so. Stop with this damp self-hate and start looking at the reality.

Plus i don't know wtf you are proposing. Pay Indians £21k to be in a call centre. Make them all the richest people in their neighbourhood? Or keep the jobs at home and accept massive prce increases for everything. To be honest if you're not already using 100% British Made products in you day to day life then you are already a hypocrite. Where was that keyboard made again?

[Captain...]

The wages paid by call centres in India are already fair. Young Indians aspire to work in call centres. There are doubtless some factories that employ children and slaves but they are not under the direct control of heavily regulated western companies. The local Indians are just as keen to squeeze as much as they can out of the poorer castes as you perceive 'big bad evil corporations who are fully responsible for my life being shit' to be, and in reality more so. Stop with this damp self-hate and start looking at the reality.

Plus i don't know wtf you are proposing. Pay Indians £21k to be in a call centre. Make them all the richest people in their neighbourhood? Or keep the jobs at home and accept massive prce increases for everything. To be honest if you're not already using 100% British Made products in you day to day life then you are already a hypocrite. Where was that keyboard made again?

That is an argument that I hate, I use things that may have been made in the far fast therefore I am a hypocrite for having an opinion on it.

If you read my post again you will see that my point, admittedly badly made, was that while we are suffering a double recession and have high unemployment it is not ideal to lose more British jobs to India to save money, especially when this has proven to be false economy in the past.

We do exploit the fact that Indian workers are much cheaper than British workers, but we don't really understand the true consequence of it. From an economic point of view we are allowing the flow of money to be constantly outgoing with nothing incoming. We are also creating more unemployment which restricts the flow of money and increases the outgoings on the government in the form of benefits to these people that will lose their jobs.

When we have a saturated job market it is prudent to outsource jobs to other economies, and encourage immigration. But with our economic state it is a bad idea and very short sighted, the money saved is eventually lost because the money that has left our economy could have been recycled and returned back to the government in tax.

[stourbridgefox]

Isn't the point that all these medical secretaries, which is quite a specialised job I believe, are going to be out of work.

Are they all going to find work in the private sector? Of course they are not. The private sector is struggling as disposable income is eroded by public sector workers losing their jobs. There is no demand for goods or services therefore no growth in the private sector.

But surely it is a good thing that the government no longer has to pay the public sector workers? Well, instead of being tax paying employees, many will probably end up on unemployment benefit or in less well paid jobs, therefore paying less tax. And don't forget the NHS will still have to pay the Indian companies. So no benefit there.

This government does not govern in the economic interest, it governs according to a flawed economic ideology which even the USA has abandoned.

How many lives will be destroyed before they are stopped? That is the real point.