TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Are you suggesting that muslim see their religion as more important than human life?Yes the terrorists would do what they are doing, but they wouldnt have the muslim community to hide behind, and they wouldnt be able to preech to innocent young men. 145878[/snapback] Its hard to preech when you are dead. Suggesting that Muslim communnity take a harder line on 'radical' clerics is a good suggestion and would appear to achieve all your aims without the obviously apocalyptic externalities of your proposal of banning a faith.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Would you welcome being criminalised for practicing a peaceful belief system?Does this country need to be the most hated in the whole of Islamic world during the war on terror? How do you go about banning a religion? What would you do with all the practicing Muslims in this country? What about Islamic members of the police force, would their faith comprimise their position? Could I pick holes in you stupid idea all night? The most #### stupid idea I have ever heard, . 145874[/snapback] Yes, if it meant saving lives. As i said, supporting LCFC isnt more important than life itself. Islam is the same. If genuine peace loving muslim cared about catching these idiots, whats the problem? I dont give a damn what people in other countries do, i care what we do, because we live with eachother. You make the practice of it illegal. Lock em up. yes. Holes? you havnt picked one yet, but by all means give it a try, im all for a solution to this war weve encountered.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Its hard to preech when you are dead. Suggesting that Muslim communnity take a harder line on 'radical' clerics is a good suggestion and would appear to achieve all your aims without the obviously apocalyptic externalities of your proposal of banning a faith. 145882[/snapback] Dont get your first point. Ok lets take a hard line on evil clerics. How do we do that?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 You seem to think that the Muslim communnity would accept having their religion banned . If you actually belive that, there is no point in reasoning with you. Just about every war over the past 2 millennia have been over religious persecution, if you wish to escelate one on home soil then banning a major religion is one way of going about it. The effect of your 'idea' would be to turn ordinary Muslims into oppressed and abused people witha legitimate cause for protest. Probably the best recruitment drive fro Terrorist you could think up of! Britian would become the most hated country in the world amongst rdical Islamist communities. There would be hoards of people looking to destroy us. There would be acomplete loss of strngth amongst the British people. I for one would revolt against a govenrment incroaching that far on civil liberties. It is not hiserical to suggest that this would almost certainly spark a civil war.
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Dont get your first point.Ok lets take a hard line on evil clerics. How do we do that? 145891[/snapback] As I said, this is not a job for the mystery 'we' that you talk of, but the Muslim communitty themselves. An internal affair. We need support them with legislation and financial aid in riding their communities of this evil.
C-man Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 By banning Islam in britainA, they`d be no mosques for hardliners to preech hate. B, they`d be no hardliners bombing us because we have a western-muslim co-existence. Worth a go? If not, whats your solution? P.S. by pulling out of iraq and other Islamic countries, we would still have a western-muslim co-existence. It wouldnt completely solve the problem. 145819[/snapback] Sorry to say this Lush, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but, that is a ridicolous idea. Theres nothing wrong with 99% of Muslims, and nowhere in Islam does it say anything to do with what these radical extremists believe. Everyone should be accepted in the place they live in, whether they be Islamic, Christians, Buddhists, blind, deaf or disabled. Besides, not all terroists are Muslims, infact, any nutter who has equipment could make a bomb and create as much havoc and devastation as what the London bombers did.
Phil Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Lush, I veiw this messageboard on regular basis and it seems to me that the majority of your posts are extreme political veiws. which is fine were all alowed freedom of speech. But are you trying to stir up racial hatred?
Fox Shagger Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Lush you are focked in the head mate. Can't you post something in the general chat forum that has something other to do with then Islam?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Tricky, i take your point. How about asking the muslim community, make them the sole group of people to legislate a ban. if they agree, whats the prob? I would like to think that the muslim community would seek to destroy the evil that surround their belief, for the sake of human life. How is tax payers money going to rid the evil?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Lush, I veiw this messageboard on regular basis and it seems to me that the majority of your posts are extreme political veiws. which is fine were all alowed freedom of speech. But are you trying to stir up racial hatred? 145905[/snapback] Whats extreme? its extreme to accusse me of starting racial hatred, so dont be childish, im trying to stop the evil that wana kill ya.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Lush you are focked in the head mate. Can't you post something in the general chat forum that has something other to do with then Islam? 145908[/snapback] turn your radio or tv set on, the biggest subject people are talking about is islam
Shum Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Lush, I veiw this messageboard on regular basis and it seems to me that the majority of your posts are extreme political veiws. which is fine were all alowed freedom of speech. But are you trying to stir up racial hatred? 145905[/snapback] Phil this is what I was thinking. The majority of Lush's posts have been about Islam.. Is he trying to incite racial hatred? Who knows!
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 How is tax payers money going to rid the evil? Internal Investigations cost a lot of money, especially if they are done thoroughly. A staffed and funded effort under the badge of the British Muslim communnity investigating into radical clerics is a very sound investment of my money. How about asking the muslim community, make them the sole group of people to legislate a ban. if they agree, whats the prob? Firstly there is perceisly 0% chance of 50% of the Mulsim communitty agreeing to disband their religion. Secondly look at the hyperthetical scenario of 60% of Muslims agreeing to ban their religion, perhaps they were on happy gas or something, what about the other 40%. How do you think those hundreds of thousands of people would feel about having their religion taken away from them. I bet they would be bloody angry.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Is he trying to incite racial hatred? Who knows! 145920[/snapback] Your talking about it, are you stiring up racial hatred? Grow up!
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 turn your radio or tv set on, the biggest subject people are talking about is islam 145913[/snapback] Terrorism Lush, and a particuarly evil MINORITY interpretation of Islam. The Islamic faith is not under review. <_<
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Internal Investigations cost a lot of money, especially if they are done thoroughly. A staffed and funded effort under the badge of the British Muslim communnity investigating into radical clerics is a very sound investment of my money.Secondly look at the hyperthetical scenario of 60% of Muslims agreeing to ban their religion, perhaps they were on happy gas or something, what about the other 40%. How do you think those hundreds of thousands of people would feel about having their religion taken away from them. 145922[/snapback] ok, lierally, how will you invest money. will we have police in all mosques for example? Until someone comes up with a better solution, banning islam seems to me to be the best soulution.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Terrorism Lush, and a particuarly evil MINORITY interpretation of Islam.The Islamic faith is not under review. <_< 145925[/snapback] No? so why do we have islamic leaders in a plenty telling us how lovely islam is?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 ok, lierally, how will you invest money. will we have police in all mosques for example?Until someone comes up with a better solution, banning islam seems to me to be the best soulution. 145930[/snapback] I am not making any suggestions, my only support is thaty we should work WITH the Muslim communnity to fight terrorism and not against them. The Finaancial support suggestion was more symbloic than anything. Any solution is better than your solution. Doing nothing would keep our country safer than banning Islam.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Lush, do you follow a religion? 145927[/snapback] Football and trance. i used to be a christian, but i asked enough questions and found no credible answers. I did the same of all religions, and again, i found no credible answers. religion of the god kind is pathetic, you cannot hear see touch feel or smell it/him. Are you religious?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 No? so why do we have islamic leaders in a plenty telling us how lovely islam is? 145932[/snapback] They are distancing themselves from the attacks. Do you not support that? The Muslim communnity also feels under attack from extreme groups, the BNP have jumped on the terror attacks as an excuse to continue to persecute Islam. A man was murdered in Nottingham this week for no other reason than his race. <_<
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 I am not making any suggestions, my only support is thaty we should work WITH the Muslim communnity to fight terrorism and not against them. The Finaancial support suggestion was more symbloic than anything.Any solution is better than your solution. Doing nothing would keep our country safer than banning Islam. 145933[/snapback] I agree we should work with decent muslims in this fight. So you dont have a better solution than banning islam, shame, for a min i thought you did. Its not safe now, but it would be in time.
Shum Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Football and trance. i used to be a christian, but i asked enough questions and found no credible answers.I did the same of all religions, and again, i found no credible answers. religion of the god kind is pathetic, you cannot hear see touch feel or smell it/him. Are you religious? 145934[/snapback] No I'm not a religous person. I am actually half hindhu / half muslim... but don't follow either religion. Banning a religion is just not a viable option matem simple as that. How would you feel if the government tried to ban football as there were too many fights after games? It's a ridiculous idea.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 They are distancing themselves from the attacks. Do you not support that?The Muslim communnity also feels under attack from extreme groups, the BNP have jumped on the terror attacks as an excuse to continue to persecute Islam. A man was murdered in Nottingham this week for no other reason than his race. <_< 145935[/snapback] They are trying to tell us that islam is good, but 4 muslims, british muslims murdered 56 british civilians. Thats sad, but what has race got to do with religion?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 shame, for a min i thought you did. Hahahaha!!! Everyt intellectual and governemnt worker in the Western world has tried to find a solution to global teroorism and so far come up with nothing. How do you expect me, a spotty teenager from sunny Luton, to come up with the answers to the worlds problems? It's an extrmely difficult situation, certainly not as simple as banning religions or invading countries.
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