Ricey Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Banning Islam will make the extremists even more extreme and dangerous. I don't see how anyone can think it will do any good.
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 They are trying to tell us that islam is good, but 4 muslims, british muslims murdered 56 british civilians.Thats sad, but what has race got to do with religion? 145944[/snapback] Nothing, but a random man was murdered in a vengence attack for the suicide bombings. I doubt the attackers stopped to ask their victim aabout his views on God, more likely to have taken one look at his skin colour and decided 'muslim.'
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Banning a religion is just not a viable option matem simple as that.How would you feel if the government tried to ban football as there were too many fights after games? It's a ridiculous idea. 145941[/snapback] Have you got a better idea, than banning islam? Football was banned in 85, and quite rightly too. Death is no excuse for any faith, whether it be football islam or car collecting. I`d GLADLY give up football trance and every other non living thing for the sake of human life. Once we have eradicated fear of death, we can go back to normality with an enlightened view of life.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Hahahaha!!!Everyt intellectual and governemnt worker in the Western world has tried to find a solution to global teroorism and so far come up with nothing. How do you expect me, a spotty teenager from sunny Luton, to come up with the answers to the worlds problems? It's an extrmely difficult situation, certainly not as simple as banning religions or invading countries. 145947[/snapback] I truly understand your beef, i wouldnt like what i believe in banned, but for the sake of life...
Ricey Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Have you got a better idea, than banning islam?Football was banned in 85, and quite rightly too. Death is no excuse for any faith, whether it be football islam or car collecting. I`d GLADLY give up football trance and every other non living thing for the sake of human life. Once we have eradicated fear of death, we can go back to normality with an enlightened view of life. 145952[/snapback] We will never eradicate the fear of death! There will always be evil in the world and besides even if there wasn't aren't natural disastors and disease enough to fear for your life?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Once we have eradicated fear of death, we can go back to normality with an enlightened view of life. Has there ever been a time where there has been no fear of death? It shouldn't stop us defending our principles and himan rights, one of the key elements being the right to chose your own religion. <_< You still insist that banning Islam would somehow prevent terrorism, but just about everyone else seems to think that it would have the reverse effect. What do you say to that?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 Nothing, but a random man was murdered in a vengence attack for the suicide bombings. 145951[/snapback] You said race first, changing your story doesnt help mate.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 We will never eradicate the fear of death! There will always be evil in the world and besides even if there wasn't aren't natural disastors and disease enough to fear for your life? 145956[/snapback] are you talking about the thread topic, or rambling about everything?
TrickyTrev Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 You said race first, changing your story doesnt help mate. 145961[/snapback] As I have pointed out. Do you think the murders stopped to ask him his religion or just assumed his religion based on race? <_< I am not trying to score points here, I am just making the point that the Muslim communnity may feel under attack from certain sections of the white communnity.
Ricey Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 are you talking about the thread topic, or rambling about everything? 145962[/snapback] Rambling? Very ironic coming from you.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 You still insist that banning Islam would somehow prevent terrorism, but just about everyone else seems to think that it would have the reverse effect. What do you say to that? 145958[/snapback] Ive spoken to loads that say the same as you, but not ONE of them have a better idea. People get scared when we wana ban things. Its a simple choice, ban islam and eventually eradictae evil in islam, then go back to decent life. or carry on with the fear that hangs over our heads.
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 As I have pointed out. Do you think the murders stopped to ask him his religion or just assumed his religion based on race? <_< I am not trying to score points here, I am just making the point that the Muslim communnity may feel under attack from certain sections of the white communnity. 145964[/snapback] Probably assumed. but you said race, now you say religion, which is it, or is it both? I guess the muslim community feel under attack from the sikh and hindu and black and chinese etc etc, and so do everyone else from everyone else. whats ya point, or is it only ever about the muslim community?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 Ive spoken to loads that say the same as you, but not ONE of them have a better idea.People get scared when we wana ban things. Its a simple choice, ban islam and eventually eradictae evil in islam, then go back to decent life. or carry on with the fear that hangs over our heads. 145966[/snapback] why should the islamic people who arent terrorists be treated like that?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 why should the islamic people who arent terrorists be treated like that? 145969[/snapback] why should 60 million people be treated like 7/7?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 why should 60 million people be treated like 7/7? 145971[/snapback] its called life mate...wherever you go whatever you do there will always be these people out there....banning islam will not make the people dissapear
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 its called life mate...wherever you go whatever you do there will always be these people out there....banning islam will not make the people dissapear 145972[/snapback] PLEASE tell me your joking? You actually feel murder is reasonable, what a tw@!!
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 PLEASE tell me your joking?You actually feel murder is reasonable, what a tw@!! 145973[/snapback] where the fock did i say that?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 where the fock did i say that? 145974[/snapback] your response was thats its just life that 60 million could die through murder... did you mean to mean that?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 your response was thats its just life that 60 million could die through murder...did you mean to mean that? 145975[/snapback] i mean that you get rid of islam these people dont just dissapear....if these people are going to blow themselves up then they are going to do it wherever and whenever they want...i certainly wont be living in fear of them, and living in such a multicultural country you cant be looking at every asian person suspiciously....
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 i mean that you get rid of islam these people dont just dissapear....if these people are going to blow themselves up then they are going to do it wherever and whenever they want...145976[/snapback] But mosques are the places there recruited. If we ban the use of them, they dont get recruited, understand?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 But mosques are the places there recruited. If we ban the use of them, they dont get recruited, understand? 145977[/snapback] but in doing this you are stopping the beliefs and way of life of thousands of muslims in this country who hate terrorism as much as we do... if you stop them recruiting in a mosque they will only do it somewhere else anyway...look in Leeds one of the bombers was recruited in the youth centre
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 but in doing this you are stopping the beliefs and way of life of thousands of muslims in this country who hate terrorism as much as we do...if you stop them recruiting in a mosque they will only do it somewhere else anyway...look in Leeds one of the bombers was recruited in the youth centre 145978[/snapback] if we ban islam, young people WONT grow up to be preeched at, that make sense? if not, you come up with an idea to rid this evil?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 if we ban islam, young people WONT grow up to be preeched at, that make sense?if not, you come up with an idea to rid this evil? 145980[/snapback] they dont just meet up with other islamic people in mosques you know?
lush Posted 28 July 2005 Author Posted 28 July 2005 mr mad, IF islam was banned, how would young people get involved with evil muslims and do bad?
Leicester_Mad Posted 28 July 2005 Posted 28 July 2005 mr mad, IF islam was banned, how would young people get involved with evil muslims and do bad? 145983[/snapback] as i said earlier these people dont need Islam to turn evil....they see something they dont like and they find a way of changing it...if its not under the name of Islam, groups under other names will appear anyawys
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