Deadman and other inept officials.

[Renart]

Yeah Quiz questions! Can we have more please? You could start a whole thread called 'you're the referee'. Do it.

[pleatout]

Does it really matter whether fans know the rule book off by heart when you have just openly admitted that referees will make wrong decisions just to calm certain players down? Knowing the rules isn't nearly as important as actually following them.

 

By the way I'm sure the 3rd one isn't in there because 1) it doesn't make any difference whether the player is a defender or not and 2) it's not offside if the opposition player plays the ball but it can still be if it just comes off (deflects) of them.

 

They are laws.  Competitions have rules.  It is a rule that you get 3 points for a win in the league.  I didn't openly admit making wrong decisions at all.  The decision i made was correct in law but I have apologised to players because frankly on another day they would have been cautioned.

 

It is important that players, managers and fans know the laws when they are criticising the people trying to implement them.

 

You make my point regarding the offside law.  The law doesn't mention opposition players at all. Yet you claim that "it's not offside if the opposition player plays the ball but it can still be if it just comes off (deflects) of them."  It we had had a goal disallowed yesterday due to offside where "the opposition player plays the ball" you would maintain that the ref got it wrong. 

Yeah Quiz questions! Can we have more please? You could start a whole thread called 'you're the referee'. Do it.

alright - I will

[Kitchandro]

What a stupid thing to say. They don't make the wrong decisions deliberately

 

According to pleatout they do!

[theessexfox]

This mantra about consistancy really annoys me.

 

The game changes, attitudes change, passions change.  That's what makes football, football.  A tackle in the 8th minute from one player IS NOT the same as the same tackle made by the same player on the same opponent in the 88th minute.

 

Refs will let things go at some stages of the match and punish them at others, you might not like it or agree with it but that IS the way you have to ref a game.

 

You try and let the game flow, play advantage etc etc UNTIL there is a bit of a set to, tempers start to flare up and then the next 10 mins is spent blowing for everything, just to calm things down.

 

I wasnt at the game yesterday and so I cant really comment but had James already had a couple of bites at Charlton players?  Had the ref already had a word?  Was the game getting a little "tasty" and so he had to throw a caution at someone and James was the unlucky one?

 

I've apologised to players I cautioned.  They only got a caution because I'd decided that I'd got to calm it down and the next player to commit a foul was going to get cautioned.  Reffing is as much about managing the players as it is about getting the laws right.  It really is very very easy to ref a game with a 22 man brawl in it.  It is quite another to stop the brawl when it is clear one [or both] are "up for it".

It was the first foul of the match. 

[Dan]

That was a stonewall penalty.

 

Not the point. The ref didn't give it and Welbeck complained. Exactly what James did and he didn't get booked. That is therefore inconsistent.

[Dan]

Transparency is key. Right now we're not allowed to hear the opinions of the referees, probably because it'd "bring the game into disrepute" or some shit, but if the referee's performance was brought into question, having them explain their decision or admit to making a mistake would go a long way towards fans, coaches and players showing them more respect.

 

Totally agree with every word. Spot on.

[pleatout]

The problem refs explaining thier decisions is that no one believes us when we are right.  According to the laws of the game.

 

You all watch football, have grown up with football, think you know a fair bit about it but sadly a huge number of fans and players THINK they know the laws of the game but don't.

 

for example

 

Which of these statements does NOT appear in the laws of the game

 

Ungentlemanly conduct

It is an offense not to call a name  [ie you cant shout "mine!"]

You are not offside if the balls comes off a defender.

The captain that wins the toss has a choice of whether to have the kickoff or choose ends.

 

 

BTW just for completeness none of them

 

Ungentlemanly conduct - replaced 25 years ago with unsporting behaviour

 

It is an offense not to call a name  [ie you cant shout "mine!"] - no it isn't, never has been.  As someone pointed out, if you say or do anything to deliberatley mislead an opponent, it may be unsporting behaviour in which case the ref can stop the game, caution the player and restart with an indirect dree kick.

 

You are not offside if the balls comes off a defender. - nope, the decision is taken when the ball is played by the attacking team.  what happens after that and who it hits or is played by is irrelevant.

 

The captain that wins the toss has a choice of whether to have the kickoff or choose ends. - Law 8 - a coin is tossed and the team that wins the toss decides which goal it will attack in the first half of the match. The other team takes the kick-off to start the match