Dan

Rudkin should be getting an absolute barrage every game, even if by some utter miracle we're winning it.

I do think it needs to be more anti the board and owner than the players really.

This ultimately starts from the top. We have become a habitual joke team.

He's already pulling results out when you would think he's close to the chop. But every one of them without fail is a false down. Every one of them. If they had anything about them whatsoever they would realise how stupid this is. But the likelihood of that is miniscule. After all they went for this appointment, with totally predictable results in the first place. I really do think both parties of the club and the fans have an us vs them mentality. I'd imagine they knew this would annoy our fans after the songs about him a year ago. I really could imagine that they have an attitude that "we tried your way, now you'll follow ours" after last year ended up how it did. That ground should have protests outside of it every single game without fail until they're gone. Make their exit from here hell. They hate us.

Even taking out the rubbish on the pitch, the relationship is so fractured already to the point of I think no return. He just can't be enjoying this. Rangers got to a point I actually borderline felt sorry for the bloke. This is the next thing up for him and it's not quite as vociferous but it's equally miserable. Martin should never have come to Leicester. There was a very small window for this to work and I think it's already blown beyond any repair. He's already biting back at the criticism he's getting, which is just encouraging our fans to pile on even more. If there were any brains at the club, all parties would shake hands tomorrow. But there aren't, so expect this miserable relationship to only worsen over the coming weeks and months.

God it's just unwatchable isn't it.

when will this end?

Another player bought to play in the Premier League who looks poor in League One. Laughable.

Yeah in this situation it's the lesser of the evils as Forest are likely to just finish midtable.

Rangers fans were more vociferous which is no surprise but they did at least act in October and get their season back on track. November is pretty much best case scenario for us here. As feared post Oxford he's done 'just' enough.

It'll come too late to give us a chance of being promoted. Unsure if it'll quite spiral into a relegation battle, but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility. I've not forgotten that in January people were still talking of the play-offs last season. If I know anything about this regime it's that we'll win at the wrong times and we'll lose when it's too late. If we lose handily at Stockport there's a chance he's sacked afterwards. He didn't. If he's sacked after a loss at Stockport, do we make up those lost 3 points over the course of the season? Based on most of this seasons evidence I would say so. Unfortunately they've had a hard on for him for ages. So he will get far longer than he deserves. Wycombe have already sacked their manager, and are already level on points with us. We are run by people who couldn't be more clueless if they were trying to be.

Also - you cannot simultaneously lament the bad finishing today as a defence for Martin yet praise him for Stockport where we scored 4 goals from pretty few chances and Stockport missed chances themselves. Can't have it both ways.

He's just a bad manager. You won't find anyone more anti Aiyawatt / Rudkin than me but he's had the best backing in the league of any manager this summer. He's had FIFTEEN signings. We're declining at such a rapid rate and the standards seem to be as well. Cifuentes a year ago was getting panned, rightly may I add, and yet he'd had nowhere near as relatively good a backing and he'd had better results in a league above. Biggest budget and backing in the league and he's managed 2 wins in 7. A -2 goal difference. Now add failing to beat 10 men from 0-1 up, a team who've let in 8 in their last 2 games. He's total rubbish.

There is, as ever, a very obvious replacement who would come here, who is out of work. But Martin will cling on to about two weeks after he's snapped up by someone like Preston or Blackburn.

This is basically everything I'd come in to say.