Zingari Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 I think you have watched Braveheart a little too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 hmm the problem here is that there is such a disparity it would seem and money talks (and people just love to moan anyway). Yes a great leader will have a vision and be able to get his team to sign up to that vision but to do so, he needs to ensure each individual thinks he is fairly treated. This isn't easy as each player has his own individual perception as to what is fair and his own perception of his own self worth and the worth of others and hence whether he gets what he deserves and they do. Each individual is impacted by this to a greater or lesser degree based on his unique character. Each players deals with it in a different way due to his unique character etc etc. You can never please everyone all of the time but the best way to lead is to make it clear to all concerned that you are acting to make the wage structure as fair as possible going forward as people accept you can do little about what happened before you came and to make them all feel you care about them as individuals but will be tough if you don't get the same effort in return. If a player on big bucks isn't pulling his weight, the Leader needs to be firm but supportive and either get him performing by getting to the root of his problem and helping fix it or help him out the door if the problem can't be solved at this club due to it's unique nature or.... show him the door if he really isn't trying. Pearson can't show them the door easily / move them on easily due to their wages so he leads by showing his team that if you don't put in the effort, you get supported if warranted but sidelined if you are taking the p!ss. Simply turning a blind eye to the underlying problems or not noticing they exist is the sign of a poor leader as nobody will buy into anyone's vision if they don't respect them or feel they care about them as an individual. The problem Pearson has is those that won't try and he can't shift as they will cause the bickering so he tries to keep them as distant as possible. The only concern I have is that a few players in the past have commented that they do not know why they have been alienated. This is either a lie and backs up the reason they have been cast adrift as they don't want to admit it or they have indeed been poorly managed. Chances are a bit of both. The best leaders in the world lose a few along the way. I agree ..... It's an art and not a science and of course some will follow easily and others will be harder to make follow. I don't think that NP is a great leader, an OK leader at best and not in the same league as Arry. Too many times there's an excuse why someone else is at fault with NP .... you can see the magnetism of Arry and the fact that players just love playing for him. I think you have watched Braveheart a little too often. Life IS Braveheart!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagworthblue Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 I agree ..... It's an art and not a science and of course some will follow easily and others will be harder to make follow. I don't think that NP is a great leader, an OK leader at best and not in the same league as Arry. Too many times there's an excuse why someone else is at fault with NP .... you can see the magnetism of Arry and the fact that players just love playing for him. Life IS Braveheart!! Jury is out with me too - I think he gets more right than he does wrong but none of us truly know how well he leads them behind the scenes. I think he often tries to swerve around the press or becomes defensive in front of the press and this sometimes may result in him being portrayed differently to how he really is. Let's face it, if LCFC were your company, you certainly wouldn't have him heading up PR. It's not one of his strengths although he seems to be working on it. Maybe that's been set as a personal development goal by his new boss as dealing with media is an important part of his role and differs from most professions where specialists are brought in to so just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 I agree ..... It's an art and not a science and of course some will follow easily and others will be harder to make follow. I don't think that NP is a great leader, an OK leader at best and not in the same league as Arry. Too many times there's an excuse why someone else is at fault with NP .... you can see the magnetism of Arry and the fact that players just love playing for him. Apart from David Nugent, our top striker, who appears to get on fine with NP but was nearly bombed out on loan under Super Arry after two games. Pearson can handle the big names in the squad, like Nugent and Konchesky, he just doesn't seem to fancy Championship players like Beckford and Danns (who is actually still in the squad despite this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 Apart from David Nugent, our top striker, who appears to get on fine with NP but was nearly bombed out on loan under Super Arry after two games. Pearson can handle the big names in the squad, like Nugent and Konchesky, he just doesn't seem to fancy Championship players like Beckford and Danns (who is actually still in the squad despite this). I didn't realise Arry bombed Nuge out after 2 games!!! To be fair to him - if he did it wasn't because of Nuge's big name - HR has had many bigger names to deal with than our Dave ..... And to be fair, I think it would be quite difficult to fall out with Nuge, he seems such a great character for a football club to have ... maybe he just didn't rate him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 Jury is out with me too - I think he gets more right than he does wrong but none of us truly know how well he leads them behind the scenes. I think he often tries to swerve around the press or becomes defensive in front of the press and this sometimes may result in him being portrayed differently to how he really is. Let's face it, if LCFC were your company, you certainly wouldn't have him heading up PR. It's not one of his strengths although he seems to be working on it. Maybe that's been set as a personal development goal by his new boss as dealing with media is an important part of his role and differs from most professions where specialists are brought in to so just that. Again, I agree .... he does seem to have realised that part of his job is to deal with the media and to let the fans know what he thinks .... He's got a long way to go to be a media darling, but he has made improvements to this aspect of his character. Contrast that with HR - you see him talking at ease with the press through his car window and is always on hand with an honest analysis of his side's performance. If i were a footballer he'd appeal to me to play for - and I'm sure plenty of the guys that do play for him have only come across him previously on TV .... it's an important part of being a manager ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 I didn't realise Arry bombed Nuge out after 2 games!!! To be fair to him - if he did it wasn't because of Nuge's big name - HR has had many bigger names to deal with than our Dave ..... And to be fair, I think it would be quite difficult to fall out with Nuge, he seems such a great character for a football club to have ... maybe he just didn't rate him?? I agree that he's worked with bigger names, but Pearson generally has appeared to get on well with the big names he's worked with in his career. I just don't understand where this notion that NP can't cope with big reputations comes from. Yeah, he didn't rate him, but he spent £6 million on him, hardly a great confidence boost when you've got that price tag hanging over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_lad_92 Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 Fair play mate a topic on here that isn't trying to be negative I think he's got the dressing room tbh, he's cleared Beckford who probably would have been a hindrance:/ SSL and Nuge & Gally always have a laugh apparently so their alright would think & konch is an old pro':) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 There's a lot of bollox posted on here. Like him or loathe him, 'uncle arry is a good football manager. If he had been appointed when Sven was, and given the riches the club gave him, Redknapp would have got us promoted that season. I have no doubt about that. Just as I have little doubt that QPR will win the league this season. Redknapp, I fear, will show that money AND managerial acumen will prove successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 hmm the problem here is that there is such a disparity it would seem and money talks (and people just love to moan anyway). Yes a great leader will have a vision and be able to get his team to sign up to that vision but to do so, he needs to ensure each individual thinks he is fairly treated. This isn't easy as each player has his own individual perception as to what is fair and his own perception of his own self worth and the worth of others and hence whether he gets what he deserves and they do. Each individual is impacted by this to a greater or lesser degree based on his unique character. Each players deals with it in a different way due to his unique character etc etc. You can never please everyone all of the time but the best way to lead is to make it clear to all concerned that you are acting to make the wage structure as fair as possible going forward as people accept you can do little about what happened before you came and to make them all feel you care about them as individuals but will be tough if you don't get the same effort in return. If a player on big bucks isn't pulling his weight, the Leader needs to be firm but supportive and either get him performing by getting to the root of his problem and helping fix it or help him out the door if the problem can't be solved at this club due to it's unique nature or.... show him the door if he really isn't trying. Pearson can't show them the door easily / move them on easily due to their wages so he leads by showing his team that if you don't put in the effort, you get supported if warranted but sidelined if you are taking the p!ss. Simply turning a blind eye to the underlying problems or not noticing they exist is the sign of a poor leader as nobody will buy into anyone's vision if they don't respect them or feel they care about them as an individual. The problem Pearson has is those that won't try and he can't shift as they will cause the bickering so he tries to keep them as distant as possible. The only concern I have is that a few players in the past have commented that they do not know why they have been alienated. This is either a lie and backs up the reason they have been cast adrift as they don't want to admit it or they have indeed been poorly managed. Chances are a bit of both. The best leaders in the world lose a few along the way. I'm sure you make some good points unfortunately I'm far too lazy to read all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 Aren't they top already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 5 September 2013 Share Posted 5 September 2013 Redknapp, I fear, will show that money AND managerial acumen will prove successful. Oi, don't start bashing Sven or else some people might get a right hump on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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