'THE RULES ARE CHANGING'

[lush]

Tony Blair has outlined new plans to throw out Muslim extremists who promote terrorism in Britain.

He said the Government is prepared to amend human rights legislation if it stands in the way of the measures.

Under the proposals, the Home Secretary will have greater freedom to exclude and deport foreigners who preach hate and violence.

The tough new powers follow the July 7 bombings in London which killed 56 people and injured over 700.

Mr Blair said ministers will launch a short one-month consultation on new grounds for removing people and keeping them out of the UK.

These would include fostering hatred, advocating violence to further a person's beliefs or justifying or validating such violence.

"Let no one be in any doubt that the rules of the games are changing," Mr Blair told reporters at his monthly press conference.

He said the key was dealing with the foreign extremists who provide the "ideological drive" for British fanatics like the London bombers.

Clerics coming in to preach at British mosques will be vetted to ensure they do not pose a threat while those already here will be deported.

British courts have previously refused to return anyone who faces the threat of torture or death in their home country.

But the Government is now working on agreements with 10 such countries so they can be sent back.

Mr Blair revealed a list would be drawn up of extremist websites, bookshops and centres with a view to those involved being deported.

He also confirmed new anti-terror legislation in the autumn would include an offence of condoning or glorifying terrorism anywhere in the world, not just in the UK.

ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!

It takes death for politicians to wake up, and public disatisfaction.

Hip Hip, Hooray!!

Anychance we could stretch it to non English people, then we could send bliar home

[City Fan]

Can we not just have one thread for all these news articles?

[Anish]

'One trick pony' springs to mind.

And no, I'm not talking about Tony.

[lush]

Can we not just have one thread for all these news articles? 

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Interesting idea, but how do you propose we do that with 10 or more different topics?

People will get fed up with searching for the topic of choice.

Ive asked this website for a news forum.

[rossporterlc]

i'd have loved it if the tony blair link had been a pic lol

[Rincewind]

This appears to be 'selected' news with a hidden agenda.

[lush]

Which is, ken?

[stez]

Which is, ken?

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well, it's hidden isn't it?!

[lush]

well, it's hidden isn't it?!

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Is it???

[stez]

Is it???

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according to kenneth, yes

[lush]

according to kenneth, yes

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Oh well, next subject.

[stez]

Oh well, next subject.

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[lush]

Muslims slam BBC "witch-hunt" programme

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's largest Islamist organisation accused the BBC of conducting a "witch-hunt" against Muslims in a documentary to be broadcast on Sunday which questions the group's determination to tackle extremism.

The Moslem Council of Britain (MCB) said the flagship "Panorama" programme made unfair claims that it was not committed to a pledge to root out fanatics in its community in the wake of the deadly July 7 bomb attacks on London.

The BBC said the "Panorama" investigation by journalist John Ware had found that several prominent Muslims, including Mehboob Kantharia, a founding member of the MCB, believed the group was in "a state of denial" about the challenge.

"We show ... even within some of the mainstream, there exists sectarianism, anti-Semitism, and a powerful conviction that Christians and Jews are conspiring to undermine Islam," the BBC said.

"Some MCB affiliates also promote the belief that Islam is a superior ideology to secular Britain."

Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the MCB, accused the programme of being deliberately misleading.

"We believe John Ware's team have made a deeply unfair programme using deliberately garbled quotes in an attempt to malign the Moslem Council of Britain," he said in a statement.

"It is unfortunate that just when Britain's 1.6 million Muslims are beginning to make progress in terms of their political participation in the mainstream, there are those who are purposefully trying to sabotage that process."

The MCB said Kantharia had informed them his remarks had been taken out of context and did not refer to the group.

The BBC documentary comes a week after the Observer newspaper reported that the MCB's leadership and some of its 400 affiliates had links with "extremist politics in Pakistan".

Sacranie called the claims "absolutely preposterous".

Scary, first channel 4 expose the hatred within the muslim community, against the british way of life, in an open documentary last year, now the bbc expose the MCB to be anti-british, "superior ideology to secular Britain"

"there are those who are purposefully trying to sabotage that process", what?? the BBC (the proud believers of islam within britian) set out to sabotage muslims in britain, never, they wouldnt know how to do that.

Interesting, that as time goes by, the media (C4 & BBC), usually very understanding of Islam and minority issues, have found holes within the very faith they adhere to protect, must be something in that.

[Random Burglar]

Boring

[Wellman]

Is there a yawn smiley?

[Muz]

Boring

[Wellman]

Boring

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Tell me about it

[Rincewind]

This will please Lush

BRITAIN: Attacks on Muslims skyrocket

On July 28, the Islamic Human Rights Commission reported that attacks on Asian-Britons reported to it, and not to the police, had increased 13-fold since July 7 - from an average of 6-7 a week, to 170 in two weeks. The Muslim Safety Forum, which monitors police reports, has recorded a 500% increase in “faith-based attacks†in the same period, including attacks on nine mosques, and the murder of a young Pakistani on July 10. A spokesperson for the forum told the BBC that after “prominent people in society†had claimed all Muslims had something in common with those who bombed the London tube on July 7, “bigots felt they had a right to commit these atrocitiesâ€Â. On July 24, the far-right National Front held a 300-strong protest outside a mosque in Scotland, and on July 26 a south Wales supermarket demanded all workers produce proof of citizenship or residency, or face suspension without pay. In mid-July, a mother found her nine-year-old son trying to hang himself so that the “bullies can’t hurt me†after suffering racial abuse at his primary school. An ICM poll published on July 25 found that two-thirds of British Muslims have thought about emigrating since the July 7 attacks.

[Thracian]

The State of Denial exists here too. Why doesn't Ultra - with his anti-racist handle - come out against the extremist Muslim clerics? Are they not racist both against whites and against Israelis?

And while I'm hear talking about hypocrisy and double standards...how about the success of multi-culturalism?

First I understood that multi-culturalism theoretically ensured there was a cross section of workers within an organisation - through that contradictory term positive discrimination.

But have you seen pictures of the Gourmet Gate workers. Didn't look very multi-cultural to me?

And then in yesterday's Sunday Express there's the headline "Foreign doctors put our medics on the dole".

I'm sure Ultra will say that because it's in the Sunday Express it'll all be made up but the text reveals that "more than 40,000 foreign doctors have flooded into Britain IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

Because of this "2000 junior doctors trained here at a cost of £237000 each are on the dole because of a shortage of training posts".

It reveals that in one Darlington hospital, for instance, only two out of 18 doctors in one department alone, were trained here.

Positive discrimination in Blair's New Labour Britain. That's right we're positive that if you're British the "New" rules will ensure you're going nowhere.

And the service ---? It's shit in my recent experience.

[lush]

On July 28, the Islamic Human Rights Commission reported that attacks on Asian-Britons reported to it, and not to the police, had increased 13-fold since July 7

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Im in no doubt that attacks upon muslims has increased since 7/7, its human nature to attack those you feel attack you. But a report by the "Islamic Human Rights Commission", is hardly credible. Be like saying the NF reported 13 fold attacks on whites, you just wouldnt take much notice.

[lush]

The State of Denial exists here too. Why doesn't Ultra - with his anti-racist handle - come out against the extremist Muslim clerics? Are they not racist both against whites and against Israelis?

Not to mention hindu`s, sikh`s and christians, both white and african`s...

But have you seen pictures of the Gourmet Gate workers. Didn't look very multi-cultural to me?

Multi-ethnic

And then in yesterday's Sunday Express there's the headline "Foreign doctors put our medics on the dole".

I'm sure Ultra will say that because it's in the Sunday Express it'll all be made up but the text reveals that "more than 40,000 foreign doctors have flooded into Britain IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

Because of this "2000 junior doctors trained here at a cost of £237000 each are on the dole because of a shortage of training posts".

It reveals that in one Darlington hospital, for instance, only two out of 18 doctors in one department alone, were trained here.

Positive discrimination in Blair's New Labour Britain. That's right were positive that if you're British the "New" rules will ensure you're going nowhere.

Why do we (bliars government) take/steal the best doctors from poor countries, thus create a bigger problem there, and then wonder why its got so bad, then encourage bob geldoff to ask us for money to feed/clothe them etc

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

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[Rincewind]

Im in no doubt that attacks upon muslims has increased since 7/7, its human nature to attack those you feel attack you. But a report by the "Islamic Human Rights Commission", is hardly credible. Be like saying the NF reported 13 fold attacks on whites, you just wouldnt take much notice.

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But you have taken notice of the Sun and James Whale and delight in repeating their stories however ridiculous they seem.

Yes it is human nature to respond to those that attack you, hence the ill feeling in Iraq and the middle East over Americas and Britain pressence on their lands.

[Teeno]

This will please Lush

BRITAIN: Attacks on Muslims skyrocket

On July 28, the Islamic Human Rights Commission reported that attacks on Asian-Britons reported to it, and not to the police, had increased 13-fold since July 7 - from an average of 6-7 a week, to 170 in two weeks. The Muslim Safety Forum, which monitors police reports, has recorded a 500% increase in “faith-based attacks” in the same period, including attacks on nine mosques, and the murder of a young Pakistani on July 10. A spokesperson for the forum told the BBC that after “prominent people in society” had claimed all Muslims had something in common with those who bombed the London tube on July 7, “bigots felt they had a right to commit these atrocities”. On July 24, the far-right National Front held a 300-strong protest outside a mosque in Scotland, and on July 26 a south Wales supermarket demanded all workers produce proof of citizenship or residency, or face suspension without pay. In mid-July, a mother found her nine-year-old son trying to hang himself so that the “bullies can’t hurt me” after suffering racial abuse at his primary school. An ICM poll published on July 25 found that two-thirds of British Muslims have thought about emigrating since the July 7 attacks.

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That doesn't suprise me one bit, it's these extremist idiots that turn people racist.

This country should be stricter and be kicking more out.

[lush]

But you have taken notice of the Sun and James Whale and delight in repeating their stories however ridiculous they seem .

Yes it is human nature to respond to those that attack you, hence the ill feeling in Iraq and the middle East over Americas and Britain pressence on their lands.

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Rediculous to you, genuine incedents of wrong, to decent humanity.

The ill feeling from those living in britain, should occupy the minds of Iraqis and middle easterns, not muslims from anywhere in the world.

Are they british or muslim first? Seems to me to be the later, hardly credible ill feeling if there prepared to live in briton, is it.

[Teeno]

It's ridiculous that British muslims should have hard feelings over what is happeneing in Iraq, we've freed that country and saved many muslims from death, we may have killed innocent victims along the way but it's a hell of a lot less than what saddam would have, surely they realise that.