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Does feel like he was always in line to return to Man City when the time was right though.

Its a circle jerk in an echo room, nothing more. Or do you actually think bitching at people on a forum, or belittling folks in the stadium will illicit change?

Was a cheap shot, bit naughty.

I was being a bit of a pedant (Character flaw) but as you have acknowledged, the messaging cannot reach everyone. Those who don`t get the "memo" will therefore be unfairly lambasted, and maybe that is the cost of revolution I do agree with the boycott, it sends the necessary message. Not sure I agree with the bit in bold though, but will leave it there for now

Don`t get me wrong, we would be better served by energised, more communicative new ownership, no dispute on this. We just diminish the chances of success by excluding those with differing opinions, whereas greatest success must surely be found reaching a consensus, as far as possible (There will always be those who don`t want to illicit direct change and content to watch, which is there right) Not convinced that pointing to migrants/KPFC/happy clappers/not-real-fans achieves anything beyond signalling. The boycott I tend agree sends a message, and amongst few real options, it seems a best option.

The here irony is too strong for me, sorry.

How has this been advertised? So nobody who turns up could have avoided being aware of it occurring?

Same on here. Just the other side of the divide isn't it? Closing the divide is surely the ideal.

Fatawu.

My apologies I tend to become irked by the endless criticism we see without any attempt to navigate through it, but you did not do so, so my bad. Let me try again! In terms of owning their mistakes - Is this likely? Do any owners do this? (not condoning, owners should, as owning a club is owning the stewardship of a loved institution. But are we really expecting this extremely unlikely act of penitence from someone who's position has little history of contrition Idolatry Isn't this the you are either KPFC or LCFC argument? Slightly off-piste, but this whole happy clapper, them v us attitude underpins the problem with any meaningful objection As how can anyone expect meaningful coordinated action with regard to removal if more effort is spent dividing the fan base, it is immeasurably self serving and childish That's why it is very loud in here, but not so much elsewhere Structure Top could really earn some early forgiveness if he demonstrated a willingness to operate outside of this tight, low knowledge inner circle he has constructed and relied upon. Get an experienced DoF and that would buy some better will overnight But as has been said, it won't happen, this is all hypothetical. Hopefully answered the question but appreciate have also whittered on.

That not true though is it? It requires what is currently a flight of fantasy, but if we improve on field, hear no more reports of mismanagement, see intent to integrate youth more rapidly, also observe movement towards a sensible transfer strategy, AND we hear frequent updates on club plans. If all this occurred without fail over 12-24 months, he could start to repair his reputation. It is a massive ask, but possible. The question then becomes if all this happened (it won't) and fans still never forgave, who is at fault then?

True. Unless we return to Premier league and offset against future revenue, yes we will be on the hook. Happy new year!

Despite fan preference, why would KP sell this low risk, visible asset?

Fatawu goes, Carranza goes, Ramsey returns to Burnley JJ signs, Antonio signs, loan RW, loan AM That is about it.

Its true. I am ashamed.

Coffee, Wine, Whisky Happy New Year to all, not a single demographic knowingly excluded.

Toilet etiquette thread?

Just don't get why we shouldn't celebrate it. Yes we shouldn't have been down there and more pragmatic and sensible actions, we would not have been, But that chance went, it happened and the owners were never likely to go off the back of that as is there right, Harking back to last failures ain't helpful because it cannot be rewritten, and the owners don't share fan sensibility clearly. Its unlikely they accept it is fully their fault and even if they did they cannot change it either and they probably believe it is their task to fix it, Its not healthy, let it go as picking this scab does nothing good. .

Sorry @monsell fox.

Just need to hope we get our crap together (It could happen...) and start to look like we are on the up and just as importantly, he is enjoying it here with this collection of sloth's

Can see that, sell Fats for €5m and buy JJ.

So unless there is a cancellation clause in the loan agreement, we would have to give our blessing. If there is a such a clause, then Rennes could recall in the Jan window

Well clearly, I am looking for the dirt.

Sorry if its been asked and answered, but can Rennes recall him?

Does not seem the sort who wants to sit on a shiny bench, so if he were to go somewhere else, you would surely expect it to be somewhere where he could be a starter?