Foxin_Mad

That's fine they have tradition, history, pedigree. Realistically Bournemouth and Brentford and never won anything and probably never will with the current structure, they are just there to make up the numbers in the cartel league.

Not exactly confidence filling what a shit shortlist.

I would rather him than Dyche horrible archaic manager.

Jesus wept Id rather keep Ruud than Dyche honestly

I think historically we've done more than Brighton, Bournemouth or Brentford and we have been in the top 2 divisions longer. Produced greats like Banks, Shilton, Lineker etc. Whether the world is correctly informed is a different matter.

Thing is I agree with this but we are now 2/3 years on and the club hasn't learned, they are still doing the same things with the same people. Thats my problem. I absolutely agree the league is corrupt and the rules are stupid, they are designed to stop clubs challenging the big six cartel.

I dont think it does survive anymore though thats the point, they are there because they happened to get promoted in a period that allowed them to become established, now unless they completely cock up they wont go down on merit as they will be light years ahead of any promoted side financially. They don't have a divine right, and I don't mind them getting there but generally a sustained period for a 12000 capacity club would be fairly unlikely.. The ability to have a competition that is decided by Easter would generally be more interesting.

I think this is a fair assessment. People expect instant changes, managers and players need a good 6-9 months in my opinion to start to make a real impact. The constant swapping puts us right back at the start of the process again, the fans will expect instant success, thats assuming the club can bring in someone half decent. Who to say whoever they bring in is going to be any good either. Its difficult because it has been shit, but he's been dealt an incredibly shit hand but on the flip side, bring someone new in they have to assess the situation, look at players, back to square 1. I imagine Rudd already knows who would be part of his plans. The club absolutely does need a strong hand too, even if thats going to upset a few cry babies, theres a soft as shit culture that needs removing. A general lack of accountability and pride playing for the club. I dont really care if he hasnt come to clap the fans as they have mostly been crap too.

The reality is though you expect the top league to be made up with Bigger clubs, and people watching want the history and prestige to be part of that. That's why the Saudi League cant just buy up all the best players, people fundamentally don't care about some fixtures. Over history we have spent quite a bit of time in the top 2 divisions. Until a recently Brentford and Bournemouth didn't. Fair play to them they are well run, and its great for their fans but realistically Sheffield Wednesday vs Sheffield Utd for example is always going to be a more entertaining spectacle.

Rudkin was appointed that year, but he cant really take any credit for that first year, a lot of the structure and philosphy that won the league was started in motion back in 2008. Rumour is Pearson thought he was a massive ****.

Just imagine them confirming on twitter 'Confirmation of our position in EFL League 2 for the 27/28 season'

We literally won the league operating in exactly the model we should use as a club our size, then for some reason, not long after Rudkin's arrival as DOF we decided wo spunk money on absolute mediocre shite. We have been doing that for years since. It went down hill from the likes of Musa, Slimani etc. Over time we have wasted a phenomenal amount of money and have absolutely nothing to show for it. That is a complete failure of the senior leadership at the club, they cant blame anyone else for their ineptitude over 5-10 years,. The fact that Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford, smaller clubs than us, one with an 12000 capacity can exist sustainably proves they are the failure.

I think the club is responsible over paying bad players big wages, paying over the odds for bad players, and signing players and managers with no real thought process for how they fit whatever structure or philosophy we have. Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham, Palace can all meet PSR with seemingly no issues. We clearly have a huge problem at management level. I dont agree with the rules or the fact that Chelsea blatantly get away with taking the piss, yet it is possible to be a well run stable Premier League team for a club our size.

The whole lot of them got lucky. It was nothing to do with Rudkin that we won the league. Nothing to do with King Power or Top or Vichai. They got lucky during a period of time, thought THEY were the reason for success when it was a combination of factors, most prominently the good structure set up by Pearson and co, Ranieri's man and media management, then later the decent young players signed by Puel who Rodgers got to perform for a period of time. Other than that they have always been clueless.

Yet we can afford to pay Eduoard to do **** ALL for a season. Pure Genius from the CEO and DOF

I think the real issue is that no decent competent manager would want to come here because we are run by inept clowns. These 2 muppets are realistically the best we can get with Rudders in charge of Football Operations.

Although its the clubs fault we flunked psr, psr is still a complete sack of red cartel protecting yankee corruption bullshit. Its making the Premier League a total joke. Well run tin pot clubs will soon be most of the mid table. Who wants to watch Bournemouth vs Brentford honestly? its nearly as bad as Al Helal vs Al Shebab, no one cares.

The most hilarious thing is that people think the Barry Murphy and whatever other muppets part of his coaching team should stay, they are all complicit and 'his' team so the lot should go. Then they can bring in a fresh clown with new ideas like Mr Martin. Pointless discussion until the willy pullers at the top are gone, which they wont be. Whoever is here is operating in a ****ed up environment with a bunch of clueless clowns.

This is the problem I’d put good money on Susan and Rudkin being here next year after another ‘investigation’ into what ‘confirmed our championship position in 25/26’. Ruud staying might be less likely to paper over any cracks if they get lucky and by some miracle employ someone with competence.

The club haven’t really helped him and are they going to find anyone better and help them with the current bunch of clowns in charge, I doubt it.

Part of me agrees, there is zero point making a change with the current muppets still making decisions. It’s doubtful that changes, so why change anything. You just know these clowns bring in Martin - Poundland Rodgers. I’d rather keep Ruud

Just don’t play any shit ***** or any ***** that won’t be here next season. Happy days!

This is where our problem comes from, we are in a mess with PSR it’s going to take years to wash out.

I think Sheff Utd weren’t as ****ed by PSR as we are though, I think we are in big trouble with that. Might be a challenge to bring in players, we may have to rely on the academy and whatever shit stays. Sheff Utd had Hamer. We will unlikely keep anyone either that quality.

Exactly, they were less of a basket case than us IMO. I think we are in for a difficult few years, the chickens of ineptitude are coming home to roost. I expect to start on -15pts