Clogger_

Ironic isn't it, given the only backing they give the lads is a round of applause at the end

OP: thanks for reminding me that Bobby exists :-(

Come on Jon, hand your letter in. Retired life will be so much happier for you. You've earned it.

OK, guess I was wrong that people don't dislike the Ginettas!! I just see them as a (moth eaten!) part of the furniture, and find the pomposity amusing!

Can't speak for everyone, but I've never "hated" Cliff et al, far from it. I don't think many people really dislike them. If I was to pick one word to summarise my feelings for them, it'd be "bemused"!

Oh Lord, we're being lectured by dotards again

🤮

Oh and Yak was mega lazy, but exceptionally good at the most important bit of the game

Now this is a good challenge. Have we had a player lazier than Soumare, or Beckford for that matter. Hard... maybe Gareth Williams (urgh) would run them close. (Metaphorically obviously, as he never ran)

He's wonderful. Every club will want him. That's life. Hope KP don't screw up with contracts etc, allowing him to leave for pennies

True of some fans, less of others. Early leavers*, happy clappers and the mute disengaged are turning out, but are offering nothing by way of real support (*Yeah yeah circumstances)

You are taking a very logical and commendable stance, in line with your values. Respect

This is kind of where I've got to. I still attend, still support vocally, personally don't boo players (though respect the right of others to do so)... but zero merch purchases without change, and will let Rudkin know I want him out! When we work out the right way of doing so I'll be focussing my lung power on KP, because we are stuffed without change

Beautifully put. "Culture" is a great word for it

While the bit about "one group to another" is nonsense, I just read you telling another fan to "f**k off". Sad.

I'm not reading anything from anyone who expects us to "p**s the league". Anyone with a brain cell knows we're in a worse place than two seasons ago, and this year *could* be a struggle. Definitely a good few who are annoyed by the attitude of the players, but also many more who see that as a consequence of the abysmal way in which our club is run.

He specifically criticises *early leavers* for not supporting the team when we went a goal down. "Fickle nature" is a bit of a build on what he says Fans give players stick. Players can let fans know when they are p*****g the players off, as here with leaving early. It's a two way street, and that's fine.

Quite a few lazy tropes in your message "funkyrobot"! I can tell you KP and players think thousands (most?) of the fans in the ground don't give a monkeys about what happens, because they convey no emotion at all. Out of interest, how do you express displeasure at a game? Frowning? A strongly worded letter? Sitting firmly on your hands at the end of the game??? You know what "happy clappers" are because sadly you can't miss them. If you care about our club and have any interest in building an exciting supportive atmosphere then defending these nonentities is a strange way to do it. If they must attend, can we not find dedicated areas for them, maybe with little holders for their flasks next to each seat?

I get a different sense tbh. I think a *very* large chunk of our fans turn out because it's what they always do. It's something to fill a day; chance to have a natter. They're not engaged with what's going on on the pitch, and even less with what's happening off it. The Top/KP supporters are just a few nutters and wind-up merchants.

Agree. At least groups like UFS are trying to change this

Well, as a counter point, we have game after game of evidence that clapping happily does not inspire these muppets either, don't we?! I think the players know perfectly well enough that their performances have been sh*t for at least a year, and that criticism is deserved!

Can we keep guessing? Maybe a nice village south of the city? Sorry, I'll leave it there

.

Getting KP and minions out is a heavy lift, but we have to start somewhere. If not, be certain that the future is bleak

True. But the happy clapping nonentities don't care about what happens beyond a seat in either direction, so why worry about what they think. Stay positive, change can and will happen