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You are taking a very logical and commendable stance, in line with your values. Respect

This is kind of where I've got to. I still attend, still support vocally, personally don't boo players (though respect the right of others to do so)... but zero merch purchases without change, and will let Rudkin know I want him out! When we work out the right way of doing so I'll be focussing my lung power on KP, because we are stuffed without change

Beautifully put. "Culture" is a great word for it

While the bit about "one group to another" is nonsense, I just read you telling another fan to "f**k off". Sad.

I'm not reading anything from anyone who expects us to "p**s the league". Anyone with a brain cell knows we're in a worse place than two seasons ago, and this year *could* be a struggle. Definitely a good few who are annoyed by the attitude of the players, but also many more who see that as a consequence of the abysmal way in which our club is run.

He specifically criticises *early leavers* for not supporting the team when we went a goal down. "Fickle nature" is a bit of a build on what he says Fans give players stick. Players can let fans know when they are p*****g the players off, as here with leaving early. It's a two way street, and that's fine.

Quite a few lazy tropes in your message "funkyrobot"! I can tell you KP and players think thousands (most?) of the fans in the ground don't give a monkeys about what happens, because they convey no emotion at all. Out of interest, how do you express displeasure at a game? Frowning? A strongly worded letter? Sitting firmly on your hands at the end of the game??? You know what "happy clappers" are because sadly you can't miss them. If you care about our club and have any interest in building an exciting supportive atmosphere then defending these nonentities is a strange way to do it. If they must attend, can we not find dedicated areas for them, maybe with little holders for their flasks next to each seat?

I get a different sense tbh. I think a *very* large chunk of our fans turn out because it's what they always do. It's something to fill a day; chance to have a natter. They're not engaged with what's going on on the pitch, and even less with what's happening off it. The Top/KP supporters are just a few nutters and wind-up merchants.

Agree. At least groups like UFS are trying to change this

Well, as a counter point, we have game after game of evidence that clapping happily does not inspire these muppets either, don't we?! I think the players know perfectly well enough that their performances have been sh*t for at least a year, and that criticism is deserved!

Can we keep guessing? Maybe a nice village south of the city? Sorry, I'll leave it there

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Getting KP and minions out is a heavy lift, but we have to start somewhere. If not, be certain that the future is bleak

True. But the happy clapping nonentities don't care about what happens beyond a seat in either direction, so why worry about what they think. Stay positive, change can and will happen

On reflection it is both funny and encouraging that "an obscene song about Rudkin" was "the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand"! Keep it up lads, more of the same required

True enough, but the attitude of our players is a symptom, not the cause of our problems. Regime change needed

How do you think it went?

What is this?

Feel nothing but despair that this clown gets a game for our club

*Yes please* Ozvaldo

Fabulous talent. *Love* watching Jeremy

Why is it alienating? What do you want the freedom to say?

Purge needed. KP out. Take your happy clapping sycophants with you. Give us a proper club to support

Faes is our best CB, however much that pains you. Not great, but our best by a margin

The title of this thread made me