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The board has ****ed up and heads need to roll. That said, it's still not right the leagues can conspire after the financial breach and change there rules to retrospectively punish us because their rules weren't fit for purpose at the time.

How can the premier league bring charges against us for an EFL competition. Surely it's the EFLs job to bring the charges. Its just vindictive and ridiculous they can write new laws to punish historic financials because their rules were broken at the time. They give Man U a £40 million COVID allowance and allow Chelsea to sell its Women's team to itself to comply. They're just corrupt and not fit to govern.

He's not totally overrated after taking Ipswich to successive promotions. The gulf is huge between the championship and Premier league, he may have spent £100 million but how many premiership quality players will that actually buy. The only player they have who will stay in the PL is Delap, all the other signings were good championship players. If he's spent £500 million on the squad and was still relegated then you'll have a point.

We need to start the Sean Dyche released 11 thread for the start of next season😂

If we get Dyche, Ashley Young will be his first signing on a free because he's being released by Everton 😂

Appointing Russell Martyn, the sacked manager from the worst team in the league would be worse

Yes I think they've also been under used because the defence and chances against has been abysmal, so they've paid the price because they're the least defensive of the players listed.

The squad is woeful, Ruud has tried many attacking combinations but under used Facundo and Mavididi IMO. Out of 24 games Bilal started all 24, Facundo 5, McAteer 7, Ayew 12, Mavididi 9, Decordova-Reid 7, Vardy 23 and Daka 5

Yes, nobody has got a tune. They've been on mute all season

Yes it's the same people replacing the striker as the manager 😂

With a board that's appointed Dean Smith, Maresca, Cooper and RVN since they sacked Rodgers do you have any confidence they'll get the next appointment right if we're only being linked with out of work managers. The championship is even shitter than us even with Ruud in charge. If Sheffield are promoted then none of the existing teams left have the parachute payments which is huge. Until Rudkin has gone and the club changes from top to bottom appointing a new manager will change nothing. We need a complete reset otherwise we'll never break the cycle of relegation and promotion.

I think we'll still have a mixture of emotions running through the fanbase even with a new manager that isn't Dyche or Martin until at least Rudkin has gone. The gulf between the relegated teams and the championship is now huge, if Sheffield are promoted via the playoffs then there won't be any existing championship teams receiving parachute payments. Ruud hasn't done enough but regardless of the manager we'll be too strong for the championship. If our finances are that tight and we're only looking at out of work managers then I would save on the compensation and strengthen the first team unless of course we replace Rudkin. We'll loose players, but as long as we keep Nelson, Thomas, Coady, James, Fatawu, Mavididi, McAteer, Skipp and Winks we'll have a good nucleus for the championship along with Monga, Alves, Evans, Golding Stolarczyk and Woyo. We don't like them but even Ayew and BDR will be good in the championship Last time we were relegated we recruited very well and I think we'll still attract better players than most teams in the division.

I meant Ipswich and Southampton will be challenging at the top of the Championship next season, and we've just beaten them. I don't want a new manager until Rudkin has gone, I would rather keep the devil you know because Rudkin and Top are clueless. Since they sacked Rodgers, we've had Dean Smith, Maresca, Cooper and RVN. We're just wasting more and more money on compensation without any direction or long term plan. It needs to change at the very top first.

Did alright with Bilal, Fatawu and Mavididi though

You have no idea what players Ruud would sign, he hasn't had a window.

Why, they'll be challenging at the top of the Championship next season. It really doesn't make any difference who the manager is, the gulf between the bottom of PL / top of championship is huge. I would keep him and use the money we would waste in compensation on players. Its not about the manager it's about the strength of the first team. We will be a big fish in a small pond, like last time when a novice manager won us the championship.

And what evidence do you have for this?

Yeah, they've got Everton's last game at Goodison, Vardy's last game for us should have been on Sky instead of West Ham vs Forest

After 13 years, winning the league and FA Cup, if he wants his final game at home and finish on 500 games then he's earnt that.

I don't see it happening, Ruud apparently presented his plan to the board for next season. Part of the plan was preparing now to sign potential free transfers. If we intended to keep him, I believe even our incompetent board would have told him.

Who's reported we're facing a transfer embargo and points deduction?

Thanks, he's played alot of younger players they've signed from other clubs before Dyche became manager but not sure you would class any as Everton academy prospects. A quick search on chatgpt says Dyche gave limited first team opportunities to academy players between 2023-2025 at Everton and only Dwight McNeil at Burnley between 2012-2022. So in over a decade of management he's brought on McNeil and Branthwaite but he was signed from Carlisle at 18 and played10 times in the PL before Dyche.

Yes totally agree, I live not too far away in West Yorkshire. Burnley was one off the worst academies in the area at the time, far behind Blackburn and would have been one of the last choices for decent academy prospects. But what was Dyche record like at Everton for promoting youth, because they have one of the best academies in the region.

Totally agree with this regarding the talent pool available in the North West released from Manchester or Merseyside. It's how they git Dwight McNeil.

I don't have a strange stance on Dyche, I just don't think he's right for us, just like Eddie Howe wasn't the right fit for Burnley. His approached suited a small team like Burnley and they over achieved for sure but as soon as he left for a bigger club in Everton with a better squad than his team at Burnley he's struggled. The premier league has evolved considerably over the last 3 years, Dyche was never a visionary, but he's been left behind and struggled to adapt his philosophy or pragmatic style unlike Moyes or Howe. We need a new DOF before we appoint a new manager, the last thing we need is another rushed appointment of an unemployed manager by the same people that have got it so wrong over the last 4-years. I would rather keep Ruud at the club for another 6 months and appoint a proper DOF who can put in place the foundations we desperately need.