orangecity23

Wahey. Enjoy your 4 hour wait in that carpark nob heads.

Why has he picked 3 defendes on the bench - not likely we'll have a lead to defend late on needing more defenders is it? Must be worried 3 out of the back 4 could get injured. Like taking an extra 8 pairs of socks in your suitcase for a weekend break.

Can't believe they're making Filbert take the fall for this.

I am suggesting that your claim - that Stephy started the season "badly" and forced Cooper into playing his signings instead - is not true. He didn't start badly - because he was never given the chance to start. Cooper's signings were preferred from the off - which does not suggest that they were bought in a back ups, they were bought in as de-facto first choice options from the start. They weren't phased in gradually - they were immediate picks over players who performed well last season, despite the fact that BdCR has demonstrated very little, if any end product at all when starting games this season. I don't think we'd have been a lot better by using Mavididi more - but our team has massively, massively lacked pace this season, and he is one of the very few pacy players we have. Certainly when compared to Ayew, who seems to barely be capable of moving at times. Can we really buy into Cooper's past career to say he is likely to give youngsters a chance? Its a bit hard to claim you are predisposed to giving younger players a chance at youth levels - not like you can exactly call up some 29 year olds when you are the England U17 boss, can you? If anything the big money signing don't suggest Cooper is some great believer in youth - they suggest he picked up one of his former England U17 players (Skipp - a pattern he did at Forest as well going after the likes of Henderson, Gibbs-White and Hudson-Odoi), we were told that Okoli is signed to the same agent as Cooper, so that was probably an unimaginative agent placating pickup, and the "big" money signing was Bilal - who Cooper barely played.

Stephy didn't start the season at all - he was immediately dropped to the bench to accommodate Bobby Reid in the starting lineup Vs Spurs. After a few games, BdCR was swapped for Ayew. Stephy didn't get a start until the Palace game - where he scored, and he scored again in the following game against Everton. Of course, as soon as Mav was in, Abdul was dropped from the starting 11. So Mavididi didn't "start poorly" - he was about our only threatening player in the early games off the bench. Bobby Reid was immediately picked, and contributed absolutely nothing in the opening games of the season.

The first thing Cooper did was bang on about "experience" being the most important thing, then he asked for over the hill wasters like BdCR and Ayew and sidelined players like Fatawu, McAteer, Alves and Mavididi. Is it any wonder that younger players didn't like him, when he made it obvious he'd go out of his way to avoid playing them? The older players would be keener, as their places in the team were basically guaranteed.

They were about to set off to the event, just had to finish up a one lap run around the training pitch to warm down before they went. The delay was, Ayew's still going. They started on Monday morning, he's about made it around the first corner of the pitch now.

Cooper having us scoring in most games was largely irrelevant, as his defence normally let in more than we scored. Most of the time we didn't even try to attack until we were 2-0 down. We only took the lead first against Palace (blew it) and Bournemouth (would have blown it if Evanilson hadn't tried to get a toebon a ball already going in). The rest of the time the goals came when abandoning his innefective starting tactics and the players desperately trying to claw something back. The goals against: Fulham Villa Forest Arsenal Chelsea Won us a grand total of zero points. By the time he was getting sacked, we'd reached the point where we were scoring 0 Vs Man United and conceeding 3.

Cooper's points per game would have put us on 31/32 if he maintained it - which would have got us relegated. He was getting progressively worse in the run up to his sacking, as showcased in the 2 games Vs Man Utd. Almost every bad quality Ruud has, Cooper had as well: Defensive lineups? Check Inability to keep a clean sheet? Check Would pick Danny ward as 2nd choice keeper? Check Ignoring Mavididi? Check Ignoring one of Bilal or buononotte? Check Picking Ayew or bdcr? Check Sending team out incredibly passive until 2-0 down? Check Only won 2 games? Check Lack of substitutions when chasing games? Check Abysmal xg? Check. Falling out with players? Check All this revisionist thinking, completely forgetting all the horrific performances. Man couldn't even win a pre season game, and when he flukes the Bournemouth win he ended a run of over half a season with us and forest where he hadn't won a game. The only managerial change that might have saved us this season was if Enzo stayed and we weren't forced to take 2 spins of Rudkin roulette to appoint a pair of wasters.

The PA said they were from Liverpool, which is probably why no-one in the away end reacted, as they are all from Plymouth/Torquay/Cardiff/London/Shanghai, and follow Liverpuuuu becaue their Aunt's Best Friend's Hairdresser's Dog once ate the cover of their copy of Sgt Pepper's on Vinyl, and definitely, abolutely not because they were a sad little herbert who was at school in the 1980s and decided they supported the team off the TV that wins all the time.

We've set a record for the worst home run in the history of the English football league structure. The PSR problems still aren't going away, and with no players sold in this set of accounts, plus a manager sacking and a load of extra money tosed onto the amortisation pile for Skipp, Okoli, Ayew, Fatawu and Bilal, coupled with the lower prize money for finishing 19th, we're probaby looking at another 70 million loss season again this year. So we'll be hamstrung by PSR again next year, with less assets to sell, and again the 2 seasons after that. The club is locking itself into a doom loop, with no signs of being able to break out of it any time soon. Down in the championship, based on last years account we basically see our turnover down by 60%. There is very, very little to look forward to in the upcoming seasons, if we miss out on promotion we could be looking at another lost decade like the worst period in the clubs history which lead to relegation to league 1. Better not say anything though, that would be entitled. Question - will people still be saying "we used to be in League One" when we are actually back in League One again?

Boilerplate goalpost moving Rudkin defence. You've got to give Jon credit for winning the title, FA cup etc etc What about the decline? Something something different departments, team effort, recruitment to blame, managers to blame, different departments not working together. Oh - so who was supposed to be supervising those different departments and hiring those managers and recruitment heads (2 in a row with SUNDERLAND on their CVs)? Silence.

This is where we are so behind the other PL clubs. Taken us this long to release merch like this, whilst at Tottenham, Levy has made sure they've been making a mug out of Rudkin for the last 2 summers in a row.

Rudkin gone first, otherwise he'll just find another Ruud to replace Ruud with. It would be like trying to fill a bucket with water while there is a hole at the bottom. As soon as there is a competent DoF in place, they'd soon get Ruud binned and actually put a bit of care and attention into finding a competent new manager, instead of giving it to Brussel Martin or some other out of work horror show recommended by the only football agent who we are on good terms with..

Us attacking this season:

If Brussel got the job, I bet Lucy would divorce him immediately, knowing our luck. This season has been an endless run of clouds, with someone crowbarring the silver linings off them so we don't have anything sparking any hint of joy to look at

The porn site has a better chance of having a clean sheet.

I think we are all up to speed with the Top and Rudkin managerial recruitment process now. 1. Sack current manager 2. Do nothing for a few days 3. Realise a match is happening soon, pick whoever is left from coaching staff as caretaker 4. Have a few meetings where it is agreed that we should start a process to think about who the new manager should be 5. A few weeks pass, caretakers lose several games 6. Realise that neither Top or Rudkin know anything about any prospective managers. Phone the 1 or 2 agents they know to see if they have a manager on the books 7. See if Graham Potter still has their number blocked in his phone. 8. Sift through CVs that arrived in the post. What's a Jesse Marsh? 9. Appoint some horrific agent suggested desperation choice, 3-4 weeks after previous incumbent sacked. 10. Set up email rules for new managers address - send all emails featuring words "transfer", "window" and "budget" to deleted items. 11. Resume nap/holiday/polo season.

Why does he look so much like Oliver Skipp though?

Coops would never have lost 3-0 to Man United, oh wait. Cooper and Ruud are two sides of the same shitty coin.

They also have An Arse (Fernandes)

Very glad I didn't go tonight. An entire season that's been a complete and total waste of everyone's time and money.

Play this last home game of the season / home game where relegation is confirmed. Lyrics I know, I know I've let you down I've been a fool to myself I thought that I could live for no one else But now, through all the hurt and pain It's time for me to respect The ones you love mean more than anything So, with sadness in my heart Feel the best thing I could do Is end it all and leave forever What's done is done, it feels so bad What once was happy now is sad I'll never love again My world is ending I wish that I could turn back time 'Cause now the guilt is all mine Can't live without the trust from those you love I know we can't forget the past You can't forget love and pride Because of that, it's killing me inside It all returns to nothing It all comes tumbling down Tumbling down, tumbling down It all returns to nothing I just keep letting me down Letting me down, letting me down In my heart of hearts I know that I could never love again I've lost everything, everything Everything that matters to me matters in this world I wish that I could turn back time 'Cause now the guilt is all mine Can't live without the trust from those you love I know we can't forget the past You can't forget love and pride Because of that, it's killing me inside It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down Tumbling down, tumbling down It all returns to nothing I just keep letting me down Letting me down, letting me down It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down Tumbling down, tumbling down It all returns to nothing I just keep letting me down Letting me down, letting me down Ah, ah, ah, ah Tumbling down Tumbling down Tumbling down Ah, ah, ah, ah Letting me down Letting me down Letting me down Ah, ah, ah, ah Tumbling down Tumbling down Tumbling down Ah, ah, ah, ah Letting me down Letting me down Letting me down

TV people: I know what fans want - remove all those filthy clips of non big 6 teams playing games, replace them with more ex Manchester United players talking about Manchessteryanited for 2 hours. Perfect!

Can't see Dyche wanting this job - his whole reputation hinges on being pragmatic and organising teams, and being able to avoid relegation. He's just had a payoff off Everton, so he doesn't need the money now. We have nothing on our squad that suits him in defence, he already didn't fancy Coady at Everton , plus we have no big man up front - the jobs a poisoned chalice, he'd be better off leaving it and picking up a better job next season.