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In our League One season Bruno Berner scored one was originally and that still is incorrectly credited to Mark Davis in some sources (club official stats and OFAF credit it correctly to Berner - you find descrepencies in both Berner’s and Davis’ stats from different sources for us because of this goal though) despite Davis being nowhere near that part of the pitch. Can’t find it now but if you find the YouTube highlights of the game the commentator even calls the goal scorer completely the wrong name/. edit: found it

No it doesn’t. That has never been the case. That’s only for own goals. It shouldn’t really need to be “given” to him by a panel though, it’s already clearly and uncontraversially his goal, don’t understand why it was ever listed as Ricardo’s goal. As a separate argument , the keeper was in a good position to potentially save it if Ndidi hasn’t been there so I’m not sure “it’s a shame”, Ndidi being there made sure it was in tbh.

Feel like I’m going crazy seeing everywhere including the history section here listing it as Ricardo’s goal. Unless it is some completely bizarre trick of the camera it’s very clearly and uncontroversially Ndidi’s goal to me. At the angle at 1:20 here you can clearly see it comes off Ndidi. I can only think it’s a case of mistaken identity or people not checking that camera angle as to why it’s listed on so many sources as Ricardo’s goal

Yeah it’s 100% his goal. Bizarre that everywhere seems to be listing it as Ricardo’s goal.

Nm

We finished 12th not 13th. And yeah we might have finished 9th or 10th but certainly wouldn’t have been challenging for Europe or made any concrete difference to our following season, too many players just played way below their best the following season, Kante couldn’t have really made -*that* much difference. Ndidi also signed in January and did a good job replacing Kante in terms of replacing his tackles and interceptions stats for 2-3 seasons although didn’t have the energy.

That wasn’t what he said though. He said he was transformative and a level above everyone else including Mahrez and Vardy which is kinda disrespectful to everyone else tbh. No one is arguing that you can’t think Kante was great or even our best player that season (I disagree but I don’t think it’s an outrageous opinion), but there definitely has been a more and more prelevant narrative in the years since that he won us the league on his own or was a level above the rest of the squad which simply was never true.

I think the following season would’ve been very similar with or without Kante in it tbh. A lot of our players just looked emotional spent. The likes of Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs all played significantly below their best the following season compared to what they showed in seasons before and/or after, Kante wouldn’t have changed that.

See this is what I’m talking about. It’s mad that enough when neutrals repeat it, even madder when Leicester fans do it. Kante was not on “another level” than Vardy or Mahrez and neither did he “transform” us more than either them or our defensive changes we made after the Arsenal game. Plenty of games that season were incredibly tight games where we had little possession and ground it out with incredibly disciplined performances from all 11 players which were then won simply by one player being in the right place at the right time, often by the so called “lesser” players even like Ulloa, after, Huth or Morgan. He was a great player but making out he was this cut above transformational player is so disrespectful to the likes of Mahrez, Vardy, Morgan and the rest,. I mean I remember us being under pressure all game by Spurs for 90 minutes but Morgan and Huth being incredible and then Huth coming up with a last minute header. Similarly I remember disciplined performed vs Palace (home and away), Watford, Sunderland, Southampton, Bournemouth (home and away), West Brom, West Ham, Chelsea, Everton, ManUtd (home and away) Liverpool just off the top of my head where we won or drew by one or two moments from nothing by the likes of Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan, Ulloa, Drinkwater or whoever else. Kind of think him leaving when our players all looked emotionally spent the following season kind of retroactively added to his legend somewhat as people started saying “see, you’re just relegation strugglers without him”. Never mind that Mahrez and Vardy proved themselves plenty as incredible players in the years since. If there was one genuinely most transformative personnel change in that season it was bringing Fuchs and Simpson into the back 4 for Schlupp and De Laet after the Arsenal game. Which happened several games after that Bournemouth game.

But then you’re also forgetting just how consistently good the back 4 was that season and how often they regularly stopped attackers who breached the midfield line. Let’s not forget even with Kante we were conceding goals like a sieve early on and it was personal changes in the defence to bring more defensive minded full backs in that shored up our defensive record rather than Kante himself. Morgan, Huth, Fuchs and Simpson were just as crucial as Kante in that regard.

Disagree that you’d have to side with this tbh. Mahrez and Vardy won us more points over the season than Kante imo and ultimately we had the best 2 attacking players in the division and regardless of how good your defence and midfield is, your defence and midfield can only draw you games, your attack wins you games. How many tight games in that season were decided by Mahrez or Vardy pulling something out the bag when it seemed like there was little on? Not taking anything away from Kante who was great that season but I do think people are almost forgetting just how g many games Vardy and Mahrez won us and how rarely Kante was actually involved in setting up counter attacks etc.

Nathan Dyer got to be the greatest one goal wonder in the club’s history. If you’re only going to score 1 goal for the club, an incredible comeback winner in a game early on in the title winning season that seemed to give us the incredible momentum is the one to get. I remember walking out of the Villa game just thinking “wow, we really feel unbeatable right now”.

Regardless of whether or not Vardy was “world class” or not, he was certainly the best striker in England in both the 2015–16 and 2019-20 seasons. And we were, after all, only competing against other clubs in England, not the world.

Vardy and Mahrez won us more points that season though, you forget how many tight 1-0s there were where Mahrez or Vardy scored from very little in the back half of that season. I’d argue that the title winning season was not even Vardy or Mahrez’ peak for us either. Mahrez had that incredible few months for under Puel and Vardy in that first year under Rodgers from Feb 2019-the March 20 lockdown is the best peak of a Leicester player I’ve ever seen and was better than Kante in 15-16 imo. 30 league goals in 34 starts and only Messi and Lewandowski scored more than him in that period.

You can say we wouldn’t have won it without about 9-13 different players though, certainly not the likes of Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan, Huth, Fuchs or Drinkwater. We wouldn’t have won it without Leo Ulloa and Nathan Dyer either who scored incredibly important goals at “sliding doors” moments that season. The whole point was everyone played out their skin that season. I agree that over the years many neutrals and even some Leicester fans seem to want to turn that title win into Kante being a one man team, which is getting tiring and clearly utterly rubbish given Vardy and Mahrez were the ones winning us matches all season. and were 1st and 2nd in goal contributions that season and Morgan and Huth were unbelievably consistent as well.

Ian Walker was a decent player for us but weird pick for notable players for us, especially when the likes of Gordon Banks, Peter Shilton or Kasper Schmeichel aren’t included

I don’t understand why the Tories are trying to fight the election on this issue. Do people really care? Most polls I see show the cost of living issue is the biggest issue for the voter. Is asylum seeking really that big an issue for most voters? Or are they just trying to find a scapegoat to tie to the cost of living issue and make out that’s the real reason behind the cost of living issue to get people to gloss over 13 years of running the country’s economy into the ground, after they can no longer use the EU forcing them to make laws lie as a scapegoat anymore, because they already shot their load on that one?

I think he’d make most people’s top 3s tbh. Some of our fans like to champion those that go under the radar over the match winners sometimes, which isn’t a bad thing per se, but it causes people to go too far the other way sometimes and kind of play down just how important the match winning players are. Especially given most them say it’s because of consistency without taking into account that match winning attacking players are always inherently more inconsistent than defensive players or deeper-lying midfield players. Dewsbury-Hall has probably earnt us the most points this season and he’d be the player if you took out our side for a mediocre Championship equivalent we’d probably lose the most points by losing. Think he has to be in our top 3 players so far really if not POTS, even if he has also had a couple of stinking performances.

Kind of true, it’s more dependent on if you just lived in another EU country together when moving rather than your citizenship. If you are an EU citizen and live with your non-EU spouse and you use your freedom of movement rights to move from one EU country to another, then your non-EU partner can just move with you under EU law without needing to go through immigration. It still works if you are moving back to your home country from another EU country too. So I if you were a UK citizen moving back to the UK and you were, say, living in France or Ireland with your Australian partner for example, you could just bring them back to the UK under EU freedom of movement law. I saw an article on the BBC last year that a lot of British-EU couples moved to Ireland after Brexit, as Brits still have freedom of movement to Ireland and Ireland is still part of the EU. So after living together in Ireland for 6 months, they can just move back to their partner’s EU country without needing to go through immigration.

Spousal visas are for permanent British residents, British or Irish citizens or EU citizens with pre/settled status. They have nothing to do with what you’re talking about, you have to have worked in the UK on a work visa for 5 years to get permanent residency for workers, student visa don’t count towards permanent residency. It has nothing to do with people on student visas bringing their partners over, it may affect foreign students who started a relationship with a Brit while studying in the UK staying with their British partner though. What you are describing is for work visas, it has nothing to do with spousal visas.

Exactly. Even if you were living in a relatively cheap part of the uk up north or in Scotland/N. Ireland and could afford all your bills on that £35k it doesn’t matter.

It’s not even poor really. £38,000 a year for one person, not even their joint earnings, is something even a lot of a middle class families outside of the south east couldn’t afford.

Really feel for you and those others affected by this. It’s going to break up families or force hard working Brits to have to emigrate to their partner’s country or a find another third country they can both live just to be with the person they love. It’s nonsensical.

The base is for people to move here, people's lives and incomes change, this is not the level they'll be at forever. This is why people are originally granted temporary spousal visas which they have to renew. They aren’t given permanent residency on moving here. Again, your argument is simply on the assumption that the partner never works or earns money on their own, which is not going to be the case for most people once they're here. Couples generally earn a lot more as a combined household than a single person does. Secondly, I'm pretty sure you already do have to prove you live in an apartment of a certain size and have to send off the details of where you live on your application. Thirdly, what do home ownership have to do with anything? Can't couples live decent lives in rental apartments? Many may choose not to buy if they have moved countries a few time as it gives them less flexibility. Fourthly, whether they have children or start a family is also kind of irrelevant if one parent is already a Brit, as they'd be a child of a British citizen anyway, so if they wanted to start a family the children would have the right to a British passport anyway, even if they were born abroad. So those children already have the right to live in the UK regardless, growing up with only one parent though as their other parent can't move to the UK is surely going to cause much more financial pressure and emotional hardship on the family than if a British citizen can bring their spouse over and their spouse is also able live with them and to work in the UK? Fifthly, we have a massively ageing population where the elderly who are the ones who most of the state purse goes on paying for health care and pension is becoming more and more out of whack with the number of tax payers as our birth rate is way below the 2.4 children per mother replacement rate needed to keep a demographically stable population: Regardless of what you think of other forms of migration for work or studies or asylum, why the hell should we as a country try to *discourage* British citizens from starting families having children in the UK? Partners of British citizens being allowed to move and allowing British people the chance to have settled relationships and/or starting families is one form of immigration I thought everyone would be for encouraging.

The whole point of the spousal visa though is one person is being supported and “sponsored” by their partner while they first come and look for work and that they live with their partner- they aren’t looking for new housing, they’re simply joining an existing household, you need to show your partner already rents/owns somewhere to live as part of the application. You don’t need £38,000 a year for that, even if it takes them a year to find work which is probably won’t for most anyway given you also need to prove you have a decent level of English to get a partner visa. These aren’t working visas, students or asylum seekers who need more housing to accommodate them. I really don’t see how working people who already have housing bringing their partners over to live with them increases the cost of living for all of us.