Babylon Posted 28 September 2005 Author Share Posted 28 September 2005 did all those managers languish in the relegation zone during their time tho? I remember norwich were always around the top 6 with nigel in charge. Neither are we so what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Nice job. I'd keep ramming this down the throat of the doubters. Pardew is a classic example. Hammers fans slagged him off until the minute they got promoted. Now the sun shines out of his proverbials. But he does seem to have got the message about the type of football they want at West Ham. We've got more draws than Princess Diana had and we've got a defender that's named after the team strategy: NILS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 The problem with football is you're only as good as your last game. If we went on a 4 match winning run, then it would be a different story. How are we going to do that? We have one goalscorer in MDV and another potential scorer who plays in second half substituion cameos. We get no goals from set pieces. We get no goals from non-striker outfield players. We have an essentially defensive outlook. We play two defensive midfield players even at home. We have no attckers who can score headed goals. We have no dead ball goalscoring potential (partly cos we have no headers of the ball, partly cos there is no imagination and partly cos we leave out the only guy who deliver a good free kick. Altogether we don't score many goals and we have a defensive outlook. Without a change of strategy HOW could we win four matches on the trot. One-nil is the best we are likely to do with the above - and when have we gone four games without conceding a goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 How are we going to do that? We have one goalscorer in MDV and another potential scorer who plays in second half substituion cameos. We get no goals from set pieces. We get no goals from non-striker outfield players. We have an essentially defensive outlook. We play two defensive midfield players even at home. We have no attckers who can score headed goals. We have no dead ball goalscoring potential (partly cos we have no headers of the ball, partly cos there is no imagination and partly cos we leave out the only guy who deliver a good free kick. Altogether we don't score many goals and we have a defensive outlook. Without a change of strategy HOW could we win four matches on the trot. One-nil is the best we are likely to do with the above - and when have we gone four games without conceding a goal? To add to that we have: 2 or 3 players every game that will let us down (not always the same players) An inability to defend set pieces, which means the opposition will always get several chances a game A piss poor away record A Piss poor home record No money Injury prone players The list could go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 How are we going to do that? Don't have a pop at me! I'm only pointing out the fickle nature of the football fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Don't have a pop at me! I'm only pointing out the fickle nature of the football fan! And it was a good point, young Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 28 September 2005 Author Share Posted 28 September 2005 Don't have a pop at me! I'm only pointing out the fickle nature of the football fan! It's all your fault if you ask me Lisa... Lisa Out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Nah - CL OUT. LISA IN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFilbert Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Below is a short selection of recent successes of teams getting out of the first division. Nigel Worthington has been in charge at Norwich since January 2001, he gained them promotion in the summer of 2004. Neil Warnock has been in charge at Sheffield United Since 1999, now look odds on to gain promotion in summer 2006. Alan Pardew has been in charge at West Ham since 2003, he gained them promotion in summer 2005. Gary Megson Joined West Brom in march 2000, he got them promoted in the summer of 2004. Sam Allardyce joined Bolton in 1999, they got promoted in the summer of 2001. Alan Curbishly joined Charlton in 1991 and got them promoted in 1998 and 2000. CRAIG LEVEIN HAS BEEN IN CHARGE FOR EXACTLY 11 MONTHS ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER!!!!!! If this doesn't bring home to people that he needs time then nothing ever will. You all seem to expect a quick fix but it doesn't happen like that. Even the great MON took over a Leicester team that was in the top two of the league for most of the season, plus he didn't have to sell his best player! He actually got given a wad of cash to spend as soon as he joined. We cannot be responsible for forcing another manager out, we need stability for the club to be able to grow. Of course, if things get worse and we find ourselves in the bottom three at Christmas then it is time to maybe look at things. But not now!!!!!!! Please support the team the club and the manager as much as you can. WELL DONE! That's very good. I totally agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 It doesn't mean he won't be a success either. I see you haven't responded to the Watford coment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 28 September 2005 Author Share Posted 28 September 2005 I see you haven't responded to the Watford coment. Because as of yet they have achieved absolutly nothing. People seem to think i'm happy the way things are, i'm not. I just know destabalising the club once again is as likely to get us relegated as is is to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirralsimon Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Micky Adams became Leicester City manager on April 8th 2002 and achieved Promotion in 2002/3 Relegation in 2003/4 Stagnation in 2004/5 So what does that say?? It says he had the core of an established premiership squad and one of the biggest wage bills in the championship to help us bounce back up. Made wholesale changes and things declined as we ended with a lot of aging journeymen pros who didnt give a sh*t. Next question? Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 It's all your fault if you ask me Lisa... Lisa Out!!! No. I have every confidence in my abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 Made wholesale changes and things declined as we ended with a lot of aging journeymen pros who didnt give a sh*t. Next question? Simon The players didn't seem too interested last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirralsimon Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 The players didn't seem too interested last night. At least they are young, cheap journeyman pros who don't give a sh*t....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scow Posted 28 September 2005 Share Posted 28 September 2005 They are good examples to use, Babylon. We do need stability, but we can only achieve this by Levein deciding on his Best XI. We look a very disjointed side at the moment because he keeps chopping and changing the team unnecessarily every game and playing players out of position. We're not scoring enough goals - our outfield players don't seem capable of supporting the strikers. Therefore, we will always struggle for goals. We've looked vunerable everytime the opposition have a set piece and look likely to concede. Can Levein fix these problems? Deciding on a settled line up? Yes... Getting the team to score goals? It's not looking good unless a change in mentality is adopted. Set pieces (Attacking and Defending)? Yes, unless Levein sticks to his flawed method of zonal marking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 28 September 2005 Author Share Posted 28 September 2005 They are good examples to use, Babylon. We do need stability, but we can only achieve this by Levein deciding on his Best XI. We look a very disjointed side at the moment because he keeps chopping and changing the team unnecessarily every game and playing players out of position. We're not scoring enough goals - our outfield players don't seem capable of supporting the strikers. Therefore, we will always struggle for goals. We've looked vunerable everytime the opposition have a set piece and look likely to concede. Can Levein fix these problems? Deciding on a settled line up? Yes... Getting the team to score goals? It's not looking good unless a change in mentality is adopted. Set pieces (Attacking and Defending)? Yes, unless Levein sticks to his flawed method of zonal marking... I agree... Lets just hope, that's all we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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