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Posted
5 minutes ago, the fox said:

i would not just date a jewish or a christian girl, i have no problem marrying one.

 

That’s interesting, foxy. 

 

Would you expect them to convert to Islam? Or would you convert to their religion? If neither (assuming you have civil weddings in Algeria)  what religion would you expect your children to brought up having?

Posted (edited)
37 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

That’s interesting, foxy. 

 

1-Would you expect them to convert to Islam?

 

2-Or would you convert to their religion?

 

If neither (assuming you have civil weddings in Algeria)  3-what religion would you expect your children to brought up having?

1-i would love that but i wouldn't twist her hand. quran says in Al-Baqarah [2:256] : "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing "

 

2- lol yeah, next question.

 

3- we will agree on this before we marry (if she's still jewish/christian). my kids will be brought up as muslims, there is no question about that. 

 

islam has no problem with a muslim man marrying a jew/christian (people been doing that and they still do to this day). and it says in Al-Ma'idah [5]:

 

"This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

 

to clear somethings up

 

" those who were given the Scripture " means jews and christians.

 

"when you have given them their due compensation" if i'm right means "al mahr", and it is a mandatory payment, in the form of money or possessions paid or promised to be paid by the groom, or by groom's father, to the bride at the time of marriage, that legally becomes her property.

 

 

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, the fox said:

1-i would love that but i wouldn't twist her hand. quran says in Al-Baqarah [2:256] : "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing "

 

2- lol yeah, next question.

 

3- we will agree on this before we marry (if she's still jewish/christian). my kids will be brought up as muslims, there is no question about that. 

 

islam has no problem with a muslim man marrying a jew/christian (people been doing that and they still do to this day). and it says in Al-Ma'idah [5]:

 

"This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

 

to clear something up," those who were given the Scripture " means jews and christians.

 

 

 

 

 

Would you have a civil marriage then? I always understood that it was necessary to convert to Islam to have an Islamic wedding. 

Posted
55 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I don't think it would be anti semetic, actually pro semetic as this thread is pro Muslim, majority people have got over religious barriers and take people for who they are, which is good.

It's turned out to be pro which may just be a good reflection of the majority of our fans. Depends on if that was the original intention of the thread I guess. 

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Would you have a civil marriage then? I always understood that it was necessary to convert to Islam to have an Islamic wedding. 

we have civil marriage in algeria and i would have one. it's mandatory for paperworks. the wife can be a jew/christian and there will be no problem marrying one (it's just different when the wife is muslim). 

 

a muslim man can marry a jew/christian and have a lawful marriage.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, the fox said:

we have civil marriage in algeria and i would have one. it's mandatory for paperworks. the wife can be a jew/christian and there will be no problem marrying one (it's just different when the wife is muslim). 

 

a muslim man can marry a jew/christian and have a lawful marriage.

 

As I thought then. 

 

Thanks, mate. 

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Posted

see! we can have a civil discussion with people getting some new info/insight without anyone being offended.

 

smh, just have no hidden agenda and we can all handle this as grown ups

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Posted
20 minutes ago, the fox said:

see! we can have a civil discussion with people getting some new info/insight without anyone being offended.

 

smh, just have no hidden agenda and we can all handle this as grown ups

 

I don't think you can read too much into it tbh, foxy, you and I have always got on.

Posted
1 hour ago, Buce said:

 

I don't think you can read too much into it tbh, foxy, you and I have always got on.

buce mate, i would never dream of accusing you of having a hidden agenda. i will answer any question you have because i know your intentions come from the right place.

 

i was talking about people who ask questions with the intent of starting a ruckus

Posted
1 minute ago, the fox said:

buce mate, i would never dream of accusing you of having a hidden agenda. i will answer any question you have because i know your intentions come from the right place.

 

i was talking about people who ask questions with the intent of starting a ruckus

 

Yeah, I know mate. Maybe I didn't phrase it clearly - your English is so good I sometimes forget it's not your first language.

 

I meant that just because we can have a civilised discussion, it doesn't necessarily mean that others would.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Yeah, I know mate. Maybe I didn't phrase it clearly - your English is so good I sometimes forget it's not your first language.

 

I meant that just because we can have a civilised discussion, it doesn't necessarily mean that others would.

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