Would you Date a Muslim?

[The Doctor]

If they were fine with me drinking heavily and eating pork, yeah, why not. So, probably no then.

[Bellend Sebastian]

24 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Has it ever occurred to you that I'm secretly Jason Donovan and your post dragged up painful memories?

Of course that occurred to me, Jase. I assumed you'd done enough drugs by now to have forgotten her years ago

[orangecity23]

This is an absolute outrage. I saw the "Would you date an Australian?" thread at work, and in the time before I could get home and post the obvious Flight of the Conchords clip that no-one else had bothered to do, and of the two threads, Webbo has deleted the wrong one. This:

 

would have been a lot funnier and more relevant in the right thread

[Trav Le Bleu]

I would, but my wife would kill me.

[fuchsntf]

6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Dated a girl with Catholic parents once and that was hell enough. Steered away from pernicious ludicrous beliefs ever since. So, nope.

My wifes family are all catholic, but far from any pushing or preying...Too busy farming, Sundays the occasional church visit.

[Guest MattP]

3 hours ago, Buce said:

Yeah, but given that you know why Matt started it, and that it was obviously causing offence (as was the intent) then you should have pulled it.

So much nonsense here its tough to start.

 

The idea a thread should be deleted because it causes offence is asinine, every thread on here will cause offence to someone, should we just delete the whole forum?

 

Your posts sometimes cause me offence, should they be deleted if they do? I support your right to offend me, it's your right to do so.

 

3 hours ago, Buce said:

Says it all, really.

 

You're an intelligent bloke, Webbo, so don't try and bullshit that you're not aware what Matt was doing. He barely bothers to disguise his distaste of gays and transsexuals.

Excuse me? Evidence I have a distaste of gay people? 

 

Bizarre accusation against a person who has sat on the top table of a homosexual wedding and fully supports gay rights.

[Chico1958]

This ones simple............. No, my missus would kill me

 

And I couldn't afford the divorce either    

[Buce]

2 minutes ago, MattP said:

So much nonsense here its tough to start.

 

The idea a thread should be deleted because it causes offence is asinine, every thread on here will cause offence to someone, should we just delete the whole forum?

 

Your posts sometimes cause me offence, should they be deleted if they do? I support your right to offend me, it's your right to do so.

 

Excuse me? Evidence I have a distaste of gay people? 

 

Bizarre accusation against a person who has sat on the top table of a homosexual wedding and fully supports gay rights.

 

Right up there with, "I can't be racist, I have black friends".

 

I have no intention of getting into an argument with you, Matt - been there, done that, got the t-shirt, and I have better things to do with my time. You are what you are. But I know you of old, so spare me your protestations of tolerance and innocence - it just doesn't wash with me.

 

Have a good evening.

[Guest MattP]

Just now, Buce said:

Right up there with, "I can't be racist, I have black friends".

 

I have no intention of getting into an argument with you, Matt - been there, done that, got the t-shirt, and I have better things to do with my time. You are what you are. But I know you of old, so spare me your protestations of tolerance and innocence - it just doesn't wash with me.

 

Have a good evening.

In other words "I have nothing" so here's another cliché from 2002 to go along with the others isms I casually throw around when I don't like something.

[Kitchandro]

4 hours ago, The Doctor said:

If they were fine with me drinking heavily and eating pork, yeah, why not. So, probably no then.

Was about to post something similar.

 

They don't drink. I find people who don't drink (ever) odd. And boring, more importantly. Unless they are recovering alcoholics or something serious.

 

Plus I think I would struggle to date anyone who took their religion seriously. People need to get into the real world and have a set of values based on their views as an individual.

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, Kitchandro said:

Was about to post something similar.

 

They don't drink. I find people who don't drink (ever) odd. And boring, more importantly. Unless they are recovering alcoholics or something serious.

 

Plus I think I would struggle to date anyone who took their religion seriously. People need to get into the real world and have a set of values based on their views as an individual.

Some would  (rightly) argue that anyone who thinks you need to drink to not be boring is actually the most boring of them all 

[MC Prussian]

Interesting side aspect of the whole discussion in here:

Would you

a Muslim?

[ozleicester]

8 hours ago, Webbo said:

I've already deleted the "would you date a Pakistani" thread. Choose which one of this or the "would you date an Australian" threads you want keeping open, the other one's going.

Social experiment complete

[Guest MattP]

7 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Social experiment complete

What did you learn mate?

[Webbo]

7 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Social experiment complete

Why did you need 3 threads?

[Finnegan]

Ozleicester is pretty much the prototype of the kind of cliche "Liberal" that gives the progressive, egalitarian movement a bad name. 

 

I've come close to assuming he's Moosebreath taking the piss several times. 

 

Someone in the transsexual thread asked what "SJW" meant? It's short for "Ozleicester". I've met some pretentious, elitist, self satisfied, pseudo intellectual pricks in my time (hello, I'm one of them) but Christ do you not take the prize, Comrade. 

 

Is there a single issue you won't act smugly, morally superior on, looking down your nose at the great ignorant unwashed and their awful, homophobic, misogynistic, animal hating ways? 

 

The only thing this thread proved is that more people than you thought would probably date a girl of any religion and that you're a pretentious twat. 

 

 

[The Doctor]

17 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Social experiment complete

No control, no meaningful data collected. This is why the social sciences are a load of bollocks. 

[adam1]

Sort of did at Uni. She was engaged in a pre arranged jobby and fit as. As she was a few thousand miles from home she couldn't help herself 

 

Anyway religion is irrelevant.

[RonnieTodger]

I'd date a girl of any religion, unless my way of life was for some reason a problem to them or their family. My mate who is Sikh, and was crazy about a Muslim girl at Uni, he considered converting. He was petrified of telling his parents and in the end it fizzled out. Just seems alien to me. 

[Alf Bentley]

19 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

I'd date a girl of any religion, unless my way of life was for some reason a problem to them or their family. My mate who is Sikh, and was crazy about a Muslim girl at Uni, he considered converting. He was petrified of telling his parents and in the end it fizzled out. Just seems alien to me. 

 

My Grandma converted for love when she married my Grandpa. She'd been brought up as an Ulster Presbyterian, while he was a southern Irish Catholic. This was shortly after the partition of Ireland, too. Rev. Paisley would not have approved!

 

Apparently her Dad only felt able to attend part of the Catholic wedding service. But he ended up getting on much better with his son-in-law than with most of his own family, as my Grandpa liked a social drink whereas most of his own family were strict teetotallers. My Presbyterian great-grandfather was an outrageous pisshead who drank away an inheritance, a business and ruined the family finances.....but was apparently a lovely bloke who lived to 86!

 

[Guest]

This isn't really the sort of thing I normally say but I think this thread and Matt's earlier thread should be closed and deleted. 

 

I haven't read more than the first page but, even if people are only joking, I can imagine it makes great reading for our Muslim fans.

 

Surprised the mods haven't got involved.

Edited 26 January 2018 by Guest

[Dr The Singh]

dated many

[Alf Bentley]

1 hour ago, toddybad said:

This isn't really the sort of thing I normally say but I think this thread and Matt's earlier thread should be closed and deleted. 

 

I haven't read more than the first page but, even if people are only joking, I can imagine it makes great reading for our Muslim fans.

 

Surprised the mods haven't got involved.

 

I agree with you on most subjects, but disagree with you on this.

 

Open discussion of difficult or controversial issues is better than censorship, wherever possible. If someone posts something massively offensive, Mods can delete that particular post (I've no idea whether this has happened).

 

Otherwise, if there's a post that you, I or anyone else disapproves of, we can challenge it. I think the vast majority of posts in both threads have been no problem at all, including those expressing views I disagree with or deploying naff humour (only some of them posted by me). Many of the posts are just expressing personal preferences, anyway, but driving prejudice underground won't eliminate it, only reinforce it.

 

The response has been better than I expected, to be honest, with some decent debate, and I think @Webbo (if it was him) deserves credit for his handling of the threads.

[Guest MattP]

19 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

I agree with you on most subjects, but disagree with you on this.

 

Open discussion of difficult or controversial issues is better than censorship, wherever possible. If someone posts something massively offensive, Mods can delete that particular post (I've no idea whether this has happened).

 

Otherwise, if there's a post that you, I or anyone else disapproves of, we can challenge it. I think the vast majority of posts in both threads have been no problem at all, including those expressing views I disagree with or deploying naff humour (only some of them posted by me). Many of the posts are just expressing personal preferences, anyway, but driving prejudice underground won't eliminate it, only reinforce it.

 

The response has been better than I expected, to be honest, with some decent debate, and I think @Webbo (if it was him) deserves credit for his handling of the threads.

Absolutely. Whenever I read of a student union banning someone from speaking I despair as it not only shows a lack of backbone but also incompetence that would shame our ancestors.

 

If someone has views that are so abhorrent then defeat them with reason and debate, don't censor them. If you can't defeat them with reason and debate then step aside for someone who can.

[Nick]

16 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

I agree with you on most subjects, but disagree with you on this.

 

Open discussion of difficult or controversial issues is better than censorship, wherever possible. If someone posts something massively offensive, Mods can delete that particular post (I've no idea whether this has happened).

 

Otherwise, if there's a post that you, I or anyone else disapproves of, we can challenge it. I think the vast majority of posts in both threads have been no problem at all, including those expressing views I disagree with or deploying naff humour (only some of them posted by me). Many of the posts are just expressing personal preferences, anyway, but driving prejudice underground won't eliminate it, only reinforce it.

 

The response has been better than I expected, to be honest, with some decent debate, and I think @Webbo (if it was him) deserves credit for his handling of the threads.

Well I respectfully disagree Alf.

 

I'm all for open discussion if the safe and respectful question/thread title is posed.

 

If the thread was titled appropriately and related to people offering their opinion and experience around relationships from differing heritages and cultures then great - but the title of this thread doesn't do that.

 

It in fact says something else entirely - it puts the forum in a negative light as it immediately suggests that this forum isn't for or occupied by Muslims its for others to suggest how they feel about Muslims in a context related only to intimacy. It's embarrassing and its pretty awful as is the transgender thread and its poll.

 

Good things may come from a wider discussion about relationships from mixed backgrounds and peoples degrees of comfortability with entertaining them - but the starter for ten shouldn't be divisive.