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[Guest Kopfkino]

33 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Think we've had this discussion before, but that kind of moral superiority matters if someone thinks morality is objective. Which it isn't, IMO.

 

Also, isn't that something of a strawman?

 

Morality as a concept is mostly bollocks, a social construct to help order people's thinking. It's useful language, not a lot more. Guess I'm just a moral nihilist 

 

Most of the time I say these things they are meant to be a bit strawman, just enjoy a bit of niggly Vardyesque annoyance. I gave up being serious most of the time when this place turned into Groundhog Day

 

But actually, and I'm really talking about the harder left here, tho I think you can generalise it out. Wrt a lot of this anti-semitism response and looking at The Sunday Times bit today, these people think they can say what they say, because, in their minds they are pursuing a greater cause that is more enlightened than their 'opponents'.

 

 

[leicsmac]

4 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

 

Morality as a concept is mostly bollocks, a social construct to help order people's thinking. It's useful language, not a lot more. Guess I'm just a moral nihilist 

 

Most of the time I say these things they are meant to be a bit strawman, just enjoy a bit of niggly Vardyesque annoyance. I gave up being serious most of the time when this place turned into Groundhog Day

 

But actually, and I'm really talking about the harder left here, tho I think you can generalise it out. Wrt a lot of this anti-semitism response and looking at The Sunday Times bit today, these people think they can say what they say, because, in their minds they are pursuing a greater cause that is more enlightened than their 'opponents'.

 

 

I'm more of a postmodern moral relativist than a moral nihilist, but I see where you're coming from and mostly I agree. Can defo see what you mean about having to abandon the seriousness at some points on here too.

 

The "greater cause" stuff is something that people should be wary of, yeah - really makes things too black and white morally. IMO the only greater cause worth pursuing like that is continued human survival across the board; after all, fail to sort that out and all other causes are rendered pretty moot. (Seeing as the religious folks can't actually prove there's anything beyond this life yet.)

 

 

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