What country is the biggest threat to global safety?

[Steven]

Just now, Jon the Hat said:

What has 9/11 got to do with global security?

Lol. Are you serious?

[the fox]

Just now, Steven said:

Saudi Arabia. 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabian.

You could've at least said something about the crimes Saudi Arabia's rulers are committing against innocent people instead of using the nationality of the 9/11 terrorist argument.

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

I have to disagree here, mac. Just recall most of the horrible events that happened after WW2 and you will find one BIG consistent figure looming around like radioactive waste. and that's the US government. 

The US certainly has done its fair share of dominion and you could make an argument for being the most prevalent over the past few decades, but they're hardly alone in such matters now or previously IMO.

 

2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

It depends entirely on your perspective.  It is easy to throw rocks at the USA from the comfort of your NATO country which their dollars protect.

If they were truly interested in freedom they'd be happy with those being "protected" having the freedom to be ungrateful bastards about it and go on about having to be protected from a threat they themselves helped create.

[the fox]

Just now, leicsmac said:

The US certainly has done its fair share of dominion and you could make an argument for being the most prevalent over the past few decades, but they're hardly alone in such matters now or previously IMO.

 

And that's my point, mac! the US is the most recurring figure. Many countries and governments had their fair share of crimes committed against others but The US seems to have a hand on most of them.

And the icing on the cake is the fact that the US government acts like some kind of peacemaker. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

Edited 30 March 2018 by the fox

[Izzy]

Well this is another cheery thread. 

[the fox]

Saudi Arabia is just a puppet in the hands of the US. A Scarecrow if you like.

[the fox]

Just now, Izzy Muzzett said:

Well this is another cheery thread. 

See the wage gap thread that wymes just opened

 

[sylofox]

5 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

What has 9/11 got to do with global security?

Apart from the whole worlds changed since. Our country alones been on Red Alert numerous times a year since.

 

The state of the middle east and north Africa. None of that's anything to do with 9/11.

 

Oh and no task force was sent to Iraq.

 

So no 9/11 has nothing to do with world peace.

[Izzy]

Just now, the fox said:

See the wage gap thread that wymes just opened

 

I've just headed over from the 'If the Russian's bombed Leicester' thread 

[the fox]

I'm happy that football is back tomorrow! This forum got gloomier than a Raven's armpit.

[Jon the Hat]

26 minutes ago, the fox said:

Fun fact of the day!

without the "help" of America, there would be no al Qaeda. and without al Qaeda, there would be no ISIS.

So if the USA had done zero militarily since the Second World War you think the world would be a better place?

[the fox]

Just now, Jon the Hat said:

So if the USA had done zero militarily since the Second World War you think the world would be a better place?

I can't tell for sure. hindsight is 20/20. What I can tell you is, the US rubbed their nose where they saw power, oil, and influence without taking into consideration the amount of collateral damage they would be leaving behind.

 

 

Edited 30 March 2018 by the fox

[bovril]

41 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

I've just headed over from the 'If the Russian's bombed Leicester' thread 

4.50pm tomorrow and you'll probably be taking refuge in here. 

[fuchsntf]

13 minutes ago, the fox said:

And that's my point, mac! the US is the most recurring figure. Many countries and governments had their fair share of crimes committed against others but The US seems to have a hand on most of them.

And the icing on the cake is the fact that the US government acts like some kind of peacemaker. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

We use to do the same...

and hurts a few still!  in our corridors of power..

The USA/UK+ France of old might be/Were involved in Generations of Hypocrisy,but

No matter,now how these modern civilzations evolved and developed, and sold

Military Materials to the highest bidder of despots in our various empires history and present.

The modern evils, and fight for gangsterial power hidden behind religous/political cloaks of

hypocritical oaths and faiths that debases and showers disdain over their own innocent followers.

Its these yobbos,that are the real modern threats to global-safety and security.

 

Russians wouldnt go to war against another foreign major power,the peoples might find it apt

for the bare-breasted Putin to be a Daft twat,and show the west they wont be brow beaten

but they wont go to war for him..Moving Into ex-satellite or reclaiming old USSR terrortories,

aint a worry for global peace...

 

 

 

[Strokes]

Russia obviously. They sent over the beast from the east, I demand revenge.

[Stadt]

Russia by far, consistent and lengthy election tampering, annexation, UN security council vetoes, annexations, exploits in Syria, use of a nerve agent in the UK and numerous other issues.

 

US have caused a lot of issues in the past and still continue to do but they're not the biggest threat to global security at all.

 

Erdogan is a right **** and some of his rhetoric is worrying and China's territorial claims causes some grief as well

[Steven]

2 hours ago, the fox said:

You could've at least said something about the crimes Saudi Arabia's rulers are committing against innocent people instead of using the nationality of the 9/11 terrorist argument.

I was leaving that to sharper minds.

[The Guvnor]

There has always been a consensus that unrest in the Middle East would be the catalyst for a nuclear war. Certainly lately tensions between Russia and the USA/West would again appear to be high on the list once again. it's unfortunate that Russia always appear to feel like victims, but it's the distrust between the two super powers which leads to the continuous need to develop and stockpile Nuclear warheads to keep ahead of the other.  We, NATO could be a bit more sensible by not holding huge NATO exercises across Russian Borders which is inflaming tensions, and Russia could help themselves massively by acting like a reasonable State who can be trusted. 

 

What we need is a massive Art movement to act as the arbitrator...............

 

 

 

 

[Rogstanley]

I bet if you’d have done this as recently as two months ago North Korea would have been right up there. Now they aren’t even an option and Russia are dominating. I must say the speed and efficiency with which Russia have replaced NK as the world’s token rogue state is very impressive. It couldn’t have been planned any better could it.

[Webbo]

2 minutes ago, Rogstanley said:

I bet if you’d have done this as recently as two months ago North Korea would have been right up there. Now they aren’t even an option and Russia are dominating. I must say the speed and efficiency with which Russia have replaced NK as the world’s token rogue state is very impressive. It couldn’t have been planned any better could it.

Back so soon?

[Rogstanley]

2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Back so soon?

Just a flying visit, trying to limit my internet time in general 

[urban.spaceman]

3 hours ago, Strokes said:

Russia obviously. They sent over the beast from the east, I demand revenge.

We can't send them snow in revenge they bloody love it over there.

[SpacedX]

5 hours ago, the fox said:

I'm happy that football is back tomorrow! This forum got gloomier than a Raven's armpit.

Wait until the post match thread when we lose. 

[ozleicester]

Other- Australia. We are starting to export drop bears!

 

[ozleicester]

12 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

So if the USA had done zero militarily since the Second World War you think the world would be a better place?

Depends which part of it you are in