Open Meeting

[john_lcfc]

someone say

please if you eject 1 person from L1 for persistantly swearing can you please eject the 9000 odd who chant

wwwhhhhhhooo twat your shit aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh

at every game several times

consistantcy is the key to keeping everyone happy

thank you

[davieG]

Of Course i do, but i don't think you can start moralising, when you go to matches and encourage swearing.

We should be encouraging parents to bring children to watch football, no other sport puts up with swearing why should football?

I've heard swearing at football matches for more years than I care to think about, I've also heard them at work on the shop floor, I've also heard them whilst playing football and I've just heard the F - word on a terrestial TV prog @ about 9.15 in the evening.

Part of the problem is not the swear word per se it's the meaning and attitude attached to it. Sure it would be nice not to have to hear it, but is it any worse than calling some one an idiot, buffoon, coward, chicken, dick head etc etc. People in life need to have an outlet, some people choose football, if you don't provide opportunities for people to let off steam then you are building up much bigger problems.

The bottom line is there is a time and a place for everything, certainly for as long as I've been going football has provided that place, it never was in my life-time a family event, just men and boys mostly, it never did me any harm as I was taught how to behave in different environments.

I'm much more offended when I'm sitting at home with my wife and family and out of the blue some one says F-off on the tele than I am by hearing what passes as swearing at a football match. Not forgetting that if I'm offended I don't need to pay to go, as for the TV well I've already paid up front and it's not something you can make a choice about.

Anyway me rambling on wont change a thing.

[Gamesmaster]

Not forgetting that if I'm offended I don't need to pay to go, as for the TV well I've already paid up front and it's not something you can make a choice about.

have you got a season ticket, that you paid upfront

[davieG]

have you got a season ticket, that you paid upfront

Yes, but I expect it from the first match, not so the TV it pops up anywhere these days.

[Manwell Pablo]

Swearing at football grounds has been around as long as football and it comes as part of the game.

Should Dion Dublin be ejected for shouting "Linesman Thats FAT KING SHIP" which I saw him do at Burnley

Should the whole of Kop of Been Enjected for shouting "Who the FORK IN HELL R U" and "The Kepper is a rent boy" at Pogliacomi V Blackpool.

Leicester is the only football ground where I notice the stewards are even there.

They get peoples backs up rushing to quickly they cause as much trouble then they prevent.

Id like to people who actually are insighting violence to be removed not people involved in football banters which has going on for years and is acceptable up and down the country.

On a final note, did lush get banned from this thread?? I would laugh my head off!!

[lush]

On a final note, did lush get banned from this thread?? I would laugh my head off!!

Free speech hey its "completely" my fault for talking, giving an opinion on a discussion form.

You guys wont listen, but i`ll leave you with this thought. No one has provided evidence that a steward(s) has done wrong. The tone of voice now being spouted by this and previous threads is inciting hatred to the stewards, and those who made the rules of stewarding.

If you continue to do this, then potential anachy could take place (particuly with the disatisfaction of our team), do you want a riot? Do you want our ground closed because you wont sit down?

Its one thing to express your views, its another to use them to incite a hatred situation.

Play by the rules, and you`ll be ok.

[Anish]

I completely agree with TrickyTrev and Manwell on the issue of swearing. It's part and parcel of the game, I do it and I'm sure many (if not every person on this board) has sworn at some stage of a football match.

When De Vries misses a complete sitter or something else just as infuriating happens in a match, you don't just sit there and say 'Unlucky old chap, better luck next time eh?'. You get emotional at the way football is played and when certain incidents happen.

Do you eject a whole stand when they sing 'The referee's a wa*ker'? Of course not.

Football has always been an acceptable sphere to express your emotions. If you want to bring your kids to the game sit in the Family Stand where it's probably not tolerated as much. Or don't go at all, because we all know that they will hear at least something offensive during the 90 minutes.

[Manwell Pablo]

I completely agree with TrickyTrev and Manwell on the issue of swearing. It's part and parcel of the game, I do it and I'm sure many (if not every person on this board) has sworn at some stage of a football match.

When De Vries misses a complete sitter or something else just as infuriating happens in a match, you don't just sit there and say 'Unlucky old chap, better luck next time eh?'. You get emotional at the way football is played and when certain incidents happen.

Do you eject a whole stand when they sing 'The referee's a wa*ker'? Of course not.

Football has always been an acceptable sphere to express your emotions. If you want to bring your kids to the game sit in the Family Stand where it's probably not tolerated as much. Or don't go at all, because we all know that they will hear at least something offensive during the 90 minutes.

If Its possible for me to get back down to Leicester in time for the meeting. I think ill probabley print off that extract from that Plymouth fan. or at least someone else should as some hard evidence of a third party view of football ground!

[Magictv]

If Its possible for me to get back down to Leicester in time for the meeting. I think ill probabley print off that extract from that Plymouth fan. or at least someone else should as some hard evidence of a third party view of football ground!

what extract would this be, do you have a link?

[Manwell Pablo]

what extract would this be, do you have a link?

I do

http://www.footballgroundguide.co.uk/

Select Leicester Go down to Fans Review to sum up yet again.

It has been years since Argyle have played Leicester, and with Argyle being newly promoted, this was our first visit to a former Premiership ground of the previous season so the expectations were high and lots of us had been looking forward to this game and seeing the stadium. Visits to Leeds and Wolves were to follow later in the season.

The journey up was fine. Once in Leicester there was the problem of finding the ground! We eventually found it, and before we left home, we were told there was plenty of parking. This is actually true, the problem was that the Leicester Tigers were also at home to Harlequins, so essentially, there were four sets of football and rugby supporters trying to park within a one mile radius of two sporting stadia, which was absolute chaos. We eventually parked a short distance away in a Leicester University campus - for a fee of £4.

We found a pub called "The Counting House" next to the complex of the ground, which was very welcoming - but extremely busy - again because there were rugby fans also present! I don't think this this will be a problem if both City and the Tigers end up doing a 'ground share' of the Walkers Stadium, as then only one team can play on any given day.

On entering the stadium, we were very impressed with the concourse facilities, except for the fact you cannot buy alcohol (we were to discover why a bit later)... There are the usual food outlets and betting stalls. A point worth noting is that smoking is not permitted under the stands. The overall look of the concourse area reminded us of what league we were now in, so we hastily ate our food and made our way out to our seats.

The away section is right in one corner of the stadium and our seats were in the middle of this, right at the back so we had a view across both stands on either side of us. The view is excellent and for a new stadium, you can really get some noise going, especially when there are 3,000 of you! The acoustics really are great, and we waited in anticipation of when the ground was full and the match could start! City have what's known as the 'fox hunt horn' which sounds when the players are warming up, when the teams come out, and (unfortunately for us) when the team scores. It does wonders for the build up and the tannoy system is quite good so it sounds amazing when this happens!

Then, the match began, and this is unfortunately where everything about the day was ruined. As it turned out, we lost 2-1, but ignore that fact. We were new to the league and didn't go there expecting to trounce Leicester. That was not the problem. The problems started when Argyle opened the scoring on 8 mins. There was the usual jumping around, singing, dancing and chanting - nothing malicious - just things like 'who are ya' and a little bit of finger pointing. Banter. Nothing more, nothing less.

The stewards pounced.

There were fans from our side being ejected from the ground - quite heavily handed I might add - by the stewards who all game must have expected us to sit there on our thumbs and clap quietly. They were making the situation worse by ejecting people for no reason other than they were chanting of pointing or cheering for their side, and this was just making people angry. I thought we were being picked until a saw the same thing happening to the Leicester fans too!!! By the time the game finished there must have 20-25 less fans in that corner. It was a complete joke.

The Leicester fans didn't help matters, the big noisy crowd we expected were non existent. 20,000 of them and they must have sat there in complete silence all game, except for the ones immediatley to our left. The only two times they got up were when they scored and even after the goals, they just all sat back down again.

Worse was to come outside. As we left the ground, the police saw fit to buffett us around and push and shove whilst they were looking for people they'd 'had their eye on' during the match in case they caused any trouble???? There was no violence or trouble during the game so quite what they were looking for I don't know. By their sheer numbers, they must have been expecting a riot. Leicester City and Plymouth Argyle have been leagues apart for decades. There have been no rivalries. They don't hate us and we don't hate them, so why the police and stewards acted the way they did completely beggars belief. My brother was made to stand against a wall until it was clear he wasn't who they were looking for, and when they were done with him, he was 'pushed' quite harshly aside.

All of this completely ruined the whole 'away day' experience for us, and after such high expectations the day was a complete let down. From the fans who wouldn't sing, to the heavy handed police and stewards who all acted completely unnecessarily. The supporters who came up by coach weren't allowed off them until 2.30, leaving them no time to visit a pub or have a walkabout for a while. The police said they didn't have the resources to police all those extra people!!!! If I'd have been a coach traveller, I would not have been happy having spent hours on it (which is normal for us) and not being allowed to get off until the match! Ridiculous state of affairs.

For a club that is used to hosting Premiership matches, I thought this was a pretty bad show. I have been treated better at Cardiff and Millwall.......no joke!

All was well in Leicester until Argyle opened the scoring, and it was all downhill after.

If you're planning a visit to the Walkers, sit down, be quiet and don't cheer if your team score. That's probably why the home fans were so quiet!

[Manwell Pablo]

I do

http://www.footballgroundguide.co.uk/

Select Leicester Go down to Fans Review to sum up yet again.

Quite Disgusting really I doubt there the only ones who think like that as well, for one most of us with a brain agree. Issues must be sorted out.

[gfox]

Some interesting points on this and other pages. Fball is not church but why does that mean you can use behaviour that you could get nicked for on the street.

Lots of people are talking about 'just' swearing or making gestures, and it being ok. There is a big difference saying 'fox sake' out loud when DeVries loses the ball (although you should be used to it by now) and taunting the oppo fans.

That is why fans get kicked out. It is also why the police, stewards and segregation points are there, and if it stopped, they wouldn't need to be. Yes the rules could be set out clearer, but they seem pretty clear already. I am dead confident I can go to TWS and chant, shout, clap and stand to do so, with no chance of being thrown out whatsoever. This is because I don't use F and C words, don't stand all the way through the match, watch the match not the away fans and if a steward had a word I'd take note.