willy37 Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 why does everyone hate kisnorbo so much? i heard he had a bad game at sheff wed, but every game ive seen him he has bin ok. not spectacular but not the worst player on the pitch. he even admitted when he came to the club that cl intends to use him as a ball winner and not to do anything fancy and in my eyes hes done his job well when he has played. when he got booed against spurs, i thought that was a disgrace, at least kisnorbo TRYS unlike some other players... sylla, joe hamill to name a couple
Jimmy Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 because in the position he is playing he is worse than useless, but he thinks he's beckham (judging by what he attempts)
Granno Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 Nothing was ever his fault. The fans came in for stick for not supporting the team however his tactics were so mind numbingly boring that the atmosphere was totally flat - sound familiar? We had some real quality yougsters however, as with a lot of talented kids some had a bit of the rebel in them. Instead of encouraging them to get on the straight and narrow they were ignored and given the bullet - the bottom line is that CL drained us of the talent to develop. He played his "yes sir - no sir" favourites like Hamill and Kisnorbo week after week after week. Frankly the more the fans complained the more his arrogance kicked in - he picked the team - he was right - you lot can sod off! Inspite of the dire football, results count and the Scottish football pundits, who actually never went along to Hearts matches, started building up the myth that CL was a quality Manager. By the time he left we were on the slide, down to 5th in the SPL as the other teams were starting to get their act together - he saw the writing was on the wall and LCFC were his escape route! I'm really sorry that LCFC are in their current position however, with CL at the helm this regretfully comes as no surprise. Sadly, this sums him up perfectly! especially the bit about it not being his fault...blaming fans etc...
syston_fox Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 because in the position he is playing he is worse than useless, but he thinks he's beckham (judging by what he attempts) I dont think ive ever see Kisnorbo take a free kick from the edge of the area or attempt 40 yard cross pitch passes! Its always the 10 yard passes that he messes up on!
Scow Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 I dont think ive ever see Kisnorbo take a free kick from the edge of the area or attempt 40 yard cross pitch passes! Its always the 10 yard passes that he messes up on! I remember one incident against Watford (At home, 2-2) when he attempted a 30 yard pass to the other side of the pitch. Not surprisingly, he passed it to a Watford player, with no City player in sight. That pretty much sums him up. And I find it baffling that people actually call him a 'ball winner' - it's all a myth. Yes, he wins a few tackles (doesn't particularly win a large portion of the 50/50s), but most of the time he's off the pace, get's on the wrong side of opponents, and get's turned far too easily. He runs around a bit and generally looks lost in midfield.
Libertine Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 Didn't he play left wing on his debut? Think it was Bury.
Scow Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 Didn't he play left wing on his debut? Think it was Bury. I remember he came on as sub, but I think he played centrally. However, there have been times where he's played on the left side of midfield in some games. Lovely stuff.
Libertine Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 I remember he came on as sub, but I think he played centrally. However, there have been times where he's played on the left side of midfield in some games. Lovely stuff. *Shudders*
DaveyJ Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 why does everyone hate kisnorbo so much? i heard he had a bad game at sheff wed, but every game ive seen him he has bin ok. not spectacular but not the worst player on the pitch. he even admitted when he came to the club that cl intends to use him as a ball winner and not to do anything fancy and in my eyes hes done his job well when he has played. when he got booed against spurs, i thought that was a disgrace, at least kisnorbo TRYS unlike some other players... sylla, joe hamill to name a couple Have you been watching a different team???
ROSSINDA Posted 18 January 2006 Posted 18 January 2006 Season ticket at Hearts for 25 years. Levein - where do I start!! Big hero of mine as a player however, as a man and a Manager he just is not my cup of tea! When he was at Hearts much was made of the two 3rd places in the SPL inspite of wage cutbacks however, what many forget is that he still had the biggest wage budget in the SPL outwith the Old Firm during his time at Tynecastle. Another factor was that Aberdeen and Hibs were in a total shambles and basically we had no competition for these much lauded 3rd places! He has a totally negative outlook and sets out his teams not to get beat, HOME and away. We had smaller teams come to our place who should have been cannon fodder - instead CL would have one man up and allow the other team to get the initative. It was only when we went a goal down that he would throw men forward - sometimes too late. Nothing was ever his fault. The fans came in for stick for not supporting the team however his tactics were so mind numbingly boring that the atmosphere was totally flat - sound familiar? We had some real quality yougsters however, as with a lot of talented kids some had a bit of the rebel in them. Instead of encouraging them to get on the straight and narrow they were ignored and given the bullet - the bottom line is that CL drained us of the talent to develop. He played his "yes sir - no sir" favourites like Hamill and Kisnorbo week after week after week. Frankly the more the fans complained the more his arrogance kicked in - he picked the team - he was right - you lot can sod off! Inspite of the dire football, results count and the Scottish football pundits, who actually never went along to Hearts matches, started building up the myth that CL was a quality Manager. By the time he left we were on the slide, down to 5th in the SPL as the other teams were starting to get their act together - he saw the writing was on the wall and LCFC were his escape route! I'm really sorry that LCFC are in their current position however, with CL at the helm this regretfully comes as no surprise. would you be as so kind to send this to our CEO Tim Davies on our behalf, his address is [email protected] Maybe hearing the truth from a 25 year Hearts season ticket holder might change any of his ideas of keeping Levein
Frenzied Posted 19 January 2006 Posted 19 January 2006 Season ticket at Hearts for 25 years. Levein - where do I start!! Big hero of mine as a player however, as a man and a Manager he just is not my cup of tea! When he was at Hearts much was made of the two 3rd places in the SPL inspite of wage cutbacks however, what many forget is that he still had the biggest wage budget in the SPL outwith the Old Firm during his time at Tynecastle. Another factor was that Aberdeen and Hibs were in a total shambles and basically we had no competition for these much lauded 3rd places! He has a totally negative outlook and sets out his teams not to get beat, HOME and away. We had smaller teams come to our place who should have been cannon fodder - instead CL would have one man up and allow the other team to get the initative. It was only when we went a goal down that he would throw men forward - sometimes too late. Nothing was ever his fault. The fans came in for stick for not supporting the team however his tactics were so mind numbingly boring that the atmosphere was totally flat - sound familiar? We had some real quality yougsters however, as with a lot of talented kids some had a bit of the rebel in them. Instead of encouraging them to get on the straight and narrow they were ignored and given the bullet - the bottom line is that CL drained us of the talent to develop. He played his "yes sir - no sir" favourites like Hamill and Kisnorbo week after week after week. Frankly the more the fans complained the more his arrogance kicked in - he picked the team - he was right - you lot can sod off! Inspite of the dire football, results count and the Scottish football pundits, who actually never went along to Hearts matches, started building up the myth that CL was a quality Manager. By the time he left we were on the slide, down to 5th in the SPL as the other teams were starting to get their act together - he saw the writing was on the wall and LCFC were his escape route! I'm really sorry that LCFC are in their current position however, with CL at the helm this regretfully comes as no surprise. I'm on the fence at the moment regarding Levien for a number of reasons but I'd like to ask you one point concerning him. Despite our current predicament, at times, we've played some excellent, attractive football, in fact some would say some of the best football we've played in years; did this happen at all while Levein was at Hearts?
Frenzied Posted 19 January 2006 Posted 19 January 2006 Furthermore, Levein has also brought in, as most fans would agree, some quality players in the shape of McCarthy, Hughes, Gerbrand, Hume and possibly one or two others. Did this happen during his time at Hearts?
ithuriel Posted 19 January 2006 Posted 19 January 2006 Furthermore, Levein has also brought in, as most fans would agree, some quality players in the shape of McCarthy, Hughes, Gerbrand, Hume and possibly one or two others. Did this happen during his time at Hearts? Judging by the players he brought to here from Hearts that he described at the time has good makes me wonder.
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