Ash Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 What would your starting 11 be for England , if you had a fully fit squad ? Mine Robinson Rio/Terry/Campbell Beckham/Lampard/Butt/Gerrard/A.Cole Rooney/Owen
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 ---------------------Robinson Neville------Campbell---Ferdinand-------Cole Wright-Phillips-Beckham-Lampard---Gerrard ---------------Rooney----Defoe With Gerrard tucking in a fair bit and Cole overlapping. Oh the height...
Anish Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Robinson G. Neville Rio Cambell A. Cole Beckham Gerrard Lampard Bridge/J. Cole Rooney Owen
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 For me Nicky Butt has to play 26643[/snapback] He would be in mine if I didn't rate Wright-Phillips as much as I do. I think Beckham in the middle can offer us a fair bit with his range of passing. It is a bit risky though as Gerrard would have to contain on the left when we aren't in possesion and neither Lampard or Beckham are holding players. But I'm sure they could manage it between them. Shauny Wright Wright Wright!
Ric Flair Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Robinson Neville G Ferdinand Campbell Cole A Beckham Lampard Gerrard Cole J/ Wright-Phillips Rooney Owen
Mark Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Robinson Neville G Ferdinand Terry Cole A Wright Phillips Beckham Lampard Gerrard Rooney Defoe
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 RobinsonNeville G Ferdinand Terry Cole A Wright Phillips Beckham Lampard Gerrard Rooney Defoe 26656[/snapback] So close to being a good team Rate Terry higher than Campbell then? Why's that?
Mark Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 RobinsonNeville G Ferdinand Terry Cole A Wright Phillips Beckham Lampard Gerrard Rooney Defoe 26656[/snapback] So close to being a good team Rate Terry higher than Campbell then? Why's that? 26658[/snapback] Terry did nothing wrong and getting dropped just because he came back from injury (having hardly played) was a poor decision, even if we didnt concede a goal Terry is more of a leader than Campbell, need someone like him at the back with Rio.
Ash Posted 14 October 2004 Author Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ?
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 RobinsonNeville G Ferdinand Terry Cole A Wright Phillips Beckham Lampard Gerrard Rooney Defoe 26656[/snapback] So close to being a good team Rate Terry higher than Campbell then? Why's that? 26658[/snapback] Terry did nothing wrong and getting dropped just because he came back from injury (having hardly played) was a poor decision, even if we didnt concede a goal Terry is more of a leader than Campbell, need someone like him at the back with Rio. 26661[/snapback] I disagree I think Sol is a great leader on the pitch and an all round better defender than Mr Terry. So powerful in the air too. It's good that we have such competition at CB though, probably stronger in that position than any other nation.
Mark Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid.
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid. 26664[/snapback] Defoe has had 2 average games in a forward 3, Owen has had no end of bad games for England...I think he's a better player than Owen. Better finisher, better touch, better movement, as quick as him... Owen will never be dropped though.
Mark Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid. 26664[/snapback] Defoe has had 2 average games in a forward 3, Owen has had no end of bad games for England...I think he's a better player than Owen. Better finisher, better touch, better movement, as quick as him... Owen will never be dropped though. 26666[/snapback] I think its quite comical how he's made captain
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid. 26664[/snapback] Defoe has had 2 average games in a forward 3, Owen has had no end of bad games for England...I think he's a better player than Owen. Better finisher, better touch, better movement, as quick as him... Owen will never be dropped though. 26666[/snapback] I think its quite comical how he's made captain 26667[/snapback] Crap how players are named as skipper on their reputation <_< He's never come across as having any leadership qualities, a bit like Beckham then...
Ric Flair Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid. 26664[/snapback] Defoe has had 2 average games in a forward 3, Owen has had no end of bad games for England...I think he's a better player than Owen. Better finisher, better touch, better movement, as quick as him... Owen will never be dropped though. 26666[/snapback] Defoe needs to step up a gear though. There are plenty of strikers out there in the world that are lethal at club level but never really take that form in to international games. Owen might have his critics, but the more you slag him off you know fine well he'll score the next game. 28 goals in 60 internationals isn't a bad record really, but it could of been alot better. He has gone stale the past few years and the majority of players often do, but even when he's off form he is still our most natural goalscorer. Rooney has got to be pushed further up field again, otherwise the goals might dry up again.
Ash Posted 14 October 2004 Author Posted 14 October 2004 Owen shouldnt be captain , i would of gave it Campbell last night
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Defoe had had two crap games for England , why pick him ? 26662[/snapback] Cause Owen is off form He is so ineffective in games. I aint rated him for years now anyway. It was obvious he'd fail at Real Madrid. 26664[/snapback] Defoe has had 2 average games in a forward 3, Owen has had no end of bad games for England...I think he's a better player than Owen. Better finisher, better touch, better movement, as quick as him... Owen will never be dropped though. 26666[/snapback] Defoe needs to step up a gear though. There are plenty of strikers out there in the world that are lethal at club level but never really take that form in to international games. Owen might have his critics, but the more you slag him off you know fine well he'll score the next game. 28 goals in 60 internationals isn't a bad record really, but it could of been alot better. He has gone stale the past few years and the majority of players often do, but even when he's off form he is still our most natural goalscorer. Rooney has got to be pushed further up field again, otherwise the goals might dry up again. 26669[/snapback] I think alongside Rooney upfront Defoe can do a better job than Owen. Playing in a 3 man forward line will take the space up where he may normally make runs etc. in a forward two. Owen's record is very good, but I would go on current form and Owen's hasn't been all that of late, give Defore a chance in a front two and I think he'll do very well.
Benji Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 robinson g.neville-----ferdinand-------campbell-------a.cole wright-phillips----lampard-------gerrard------bridge smith-----rooney no beckham you may have noticed
Cobbo Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 robinsong.neville-----ferdinand-------campbell-------a.cole wright-phillips----lampard-------gerrard------bridge smith-----rooney no beckham you may have noticed 26675[/snapback] There is that dirty little Smith though, ewwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Benji Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 hmm he was the only one i wasn't sure about the main reason was that you know you'll get 100% off of him and he'll really want to play, not got the skill as some but still and he might get a few games with rooney this season so a partnership possibly if ruud is injured/suspended. if not him defoe otherwise i'm happy, lampard and gerrard are undoubtedly 2 of the best centre midfielders int he world currently, bridge and cole provide the two natural left footers which we never have, pace, and ability to switch with each other to defend and attack. wright-phillips deserves his chance as much as any other player, rooney although is a mixed player and isn't THAT good domestically rises to the occassion of internationals very well. defence is a rock
Wellman Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Robinson Terry Campbell Rio Wright-Phillips Beckham Lampard Gerrard A.Cole Rooney Owen IMO this is the best England team possible at the moment. If Ashley Cole is injured than Wilcox will come into the team
kirkup21 Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 Robinson G.Neville Campbell Rio A.Cole Beckham Gerrard Lampard Wright-Phillips/Bridge Owen Rooney I would like to put Heskey in there as I do think he does his bit for the team but he just doesn't get the goals.
Anish Posted 14 October 2004 Posted 14 October 2004 I think Heskey's days of international football are now behind him...thankfully! Good player but not up to international level IMO.
Scow Posted 15 October 2004 Posted 15 October 2004 Robinson G Neville / Ferdinand / Campbell / A Cole Wright Phillips / Beckham / Lampard / Gerrard Rooney / Defoe Beckham can play that holding role in midfield, he's done it quite a few times for Real, although I'm sure in the England team he'll want to drift forward.
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