Janx Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 I believe in fate. If something is going to happen it'll happen and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it. IMO. think Gordon might be refering to this slight caveat? Am I right?
Thracian Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 Erm, not earning is a bit misleading. Maybe not working very hard on a paid professional basis would be more accurate! I do a bit of freelance writing, I fix fiends and neighbours software issues in return for alcohol, I get a student grant, child tax benefit and my student loan. It's a finite career break, because although I can get supply teaching work I'm choosing not to. At the end of this degree, in 2008, I'll go back to teaching unless I get an offer for my book I'm working on. I'd quite like to write childrens fiction, my little one's enjoy a good made up story especially if there are some farts or a burp or two in it. Luckily, I too enjoy a story with farts and burps in it What helped was being debt free; no credit agreements, no plastic, no monthly payment plans. Our only obligations are the rent on the house and monthly bills. We get sent loads of hand-me-downs for the kids and we have never bothered about being fashion concious. What savings we have are loaded into premium bonds on the hope that they will win and buy us a house [long shot, but we're losing little in the process]. My view on life was shaped by my period of homelessness 20ish years ago ~ I spent 18 months on the streets being beaten up or urinated on simply for not having anywhere to go! I just started walking one day, after a family arguement, and never stopped. At first, I had a rucksack, clothes and tent, but things were stolen along the way until I had nothing but the clothes on my back. My heart goes out to everyone without a roof, my favourite book is Down And Out In Paris And London by Orwell. I was conditioned by that experience. I would be there now (I suspect) if it hadn't been for a chance meeting and the very kind acts of some beautiful people. As an athiest I really understand how abstention from the chatles of life can provide a focus for religious meditation. Not believing in any God means that I have to have a focus for living...for what is the point if you do not? Therefore, my focus is to be happy and enjoy life. I reason that we get one hit and so none of us should deny ourselves from experiencing it. If you read The Yes Man by Danny Wallace you can get a humorous angle on accepting responsibility for your life. Why watch people communicating on Big Brother when you could do some real communicating with someone new? Why not stop the people you are walking past and ask one of them for a coffee and a chat? We all know that fear of rejection prevents us from doing daft things like this...but there are achievable levels. At the risk of sounding like a Life Motivational Consultant from the States (for which I apologise and will allow people to throw fish at me) ...you hold the remote control to life [iMHO]. If you don't like the channel then flip sides. Get a qualification, travel the world, make a baby or just start giving the people you love big hugs. My friends are convinced that I am undergoing a breakdown since we came back from South America because all I do is hug them...but it makes me feel good. Secretly, when they aren't shouting at me to stop or prodding me with sticks to keep me away I think they enjoy it too. Doesn't everyone love to be loved? My absolute favourite program at the moment is My Name Is Earl...that sums everything up for me. Just do good stuff! I'm a million miles from perfect, I fukc up all the time, but I'm still trying. Interesting insight. My wife's brother left conventional life and his job at the age of 17 and forsook all worldly possessions. He went to live in some caves in the Canary Islands, moved on to a kibbutz in Israel and has since travelled the world as a kind of hippie, fathering several children by several women of various nationalities and totally confounding the idea that anyone has to live according to the norms which most of us accept. He's never had a conventional job since he was 17 as far as I know. His children are intelligent, multi-lingual and artistic. He came to my house once and arrived on his bicylcle with his firstborn in a harness on his back. He wore sandles and slept on a mat on the floor. He spent most of his time eating fruit and nuts, as did his son. The lad grew up a pleasant, cheerful, positive person went to University in New Zealand where his mother lives, later toured the world himself and is now an fairly prominent artist. As you say, there are many ways to live life and be happy.
golden gordon Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 QUOTE BERTFOX "I believe in fate. If something is going to happen it'll happen and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it. " IMO think Gordon might be refering to this slight caveat? Am I right? sort of , what i was thinking for example ; if i am standing at a bus stop and want the bus to stop for me to get on , then i would put my hand out and expect it to stop; if however there was nothing i could do to stop it, should i stand there and think " well if it stops it stops , theres nothing i can do to stop it, " so its irrelevant if i put my hand out or not am i making sense
Bert Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 QUOTE BERTFOX "I believe in fate. If something is going to happen it'll happen and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it. " IMO sort of , what i was thinking for example ; if i am standing at a bus stop and want the bus to stop for me to get on , then i would put my hand out and expect it to stop; if however there was nothing i could do to stop it, should i stand there and think " well if it stops it stops , theres nothing i can do to stop it, " so its irrelevant if i put my hand out or not am i making sense I know what you mean and from my post i can see what you mean. The description you have given is a very good one, but my theory is a lot easier to explain than it is over a messageboard. I'd be able to explain what i mean more as i find it easier talking in person.
lookwhaticando Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 When I first saw the title, I thought it said "do you believe in face?" I believe they've faces.
golden gordon Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 I know what you mean and from my post i can see what you mean. The description you have given is a very good one, but my theory is a lot easier to explain than it is over a messageboard. I'd be able to explain what i mean more as i find it easier talking in person. i do know what you mean and i realise you are referring to greater events in a person's life than whether or not a bus stops , and to a point i agree with you , some things in life are unavoidable whatever you do
Knighton Matt Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 When I first saw the title, I thought it said "do you believe in face?" I believe they've faces. a) Who are these people? b) Are they over 16? I'm a little dubious.
Wils Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 a) Who are these people? b) Are they over 16? I'm a little dubious. Me too.
lookwhaticando Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 a) Who are these people? b) Are they over 16? I'm a little dubious. Not a clue. They appeared under google image search for faces.
Knighton Matt Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 I bagsy the one on the right. You like the braces look Tom lad?
Wils Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 You like the braces look Tom lad? Its the cheeky smile that did me.
lookwhaticando Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 Didn't take long for you pair to change your tune Oh, and by the way, KM: you're always dubious.
Knighton Matt Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 Didn't take long for you pair to change your tune Oh, and by the way, KM: you're always dubious. With intent I might add
lookwhaticando Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 With intent I might add Nothing but the best from you, KM
Finnegan Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 The one on the right's blatantly about 13. I'm pretty sure that's plain wrong.
cisono Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 Fez, I don't understand why you bring fate into your shopping for clothes. For any bargains you spot, there is an alternative universe in which you didn't spot the bargain. You just happened to be in this one! Now that that is clear, what I still need to piece together is: - if there is a universe for each of the possible paths in one's life, at what point do the other paths come into being? When you get to the point of choice or before that? (if before, how the hell does the universe know how many alternative universes a person's life needs) - and does the fact that we can go forward and backward in time have any bearing on the above? Don't think that makes any sense...
lookwhaticando Posted 22 August 2006 Posted 22 August 2006 Fez, I don't understand why you bring fate into your shopping for clothes. For any bargains you spot, there is an alternative universe in which you didn't spot the bargain. You just happened to be in this one! Now that that is clear, what I still need to piece together is: - if there is a universe for each of the possible paths in one's life, at what point do the other paths come into being? When you get to the point of choice or before that? (if before, how the hell does the universe know how many alternative universes a person's life needs) - and does the fact that we can go forward and backward in time have any bearing on the above? Don't think that makes any sense... Suspect you're right... I didn't understand a word of it.
Guest Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 Fate has dealt me a cruel hand. I demand a recount.
golden gordon Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 Fate has dealt me a cruel hand. I demand a recount. fate has also dealt me a cruel hand; i punch people with it when they p*ss me off
Rincewind Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 Things just happen depending on choices and events. Lifes full of crossroads. I don't know if that counts as fate. The other night (Sunday) because I wasn't meeting up with my brother and couldn't be arsed to make my own dinner I contiplated going out for a hour. Eventually I dragged myself away from Foxestalk and went up London Road. I needed some cash so I went to the one near the Pizza place. I then though shall I go in the Varsity or Loaded Dog. NO, I did neither and crossed the road to the offy. Bought four cans of Newcastle Brown and went in the Chinese further down the road. Now I had shoved the money from the cashpoint in my pocket. Paid for the beer with a fiver and the Chinese with a tenner. While waiting I saw a tenner near the counter. I thought I had dropped it so I shoved it in my pocket. I found out later I was a tenner to the good. This is where all the crossroads come in. If I had met my brother none of this would have happened but who knows I may have found 20 notes in the Black Horse so my life is full of bad luck at the moment.
Guest Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 fate has also dealt me a cruel hand;i punch people with it when they p*ss me off I prefer to administer a short, sharp kick to the derrier, personally.
golden gordon Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 Things just happen depending on choices and events. Lifes full of crossroads. I don't know if that counts as fate. The other night (Sunday) because I wasn't meeting up with my brother and couldn't be arsed to make my own dinner I contiplated going out for a hour. Eventually I dragged myself away from Foxestalk and went up London Road. I needed some cash so I went to the one near the Pizza place. I then though shall I go in the Varsity or Loaded Dog. NO, I did neither and crossed the road to the offy. Bought four cans of Newcastle Brown and went in the Chinese further down the road. Now I had shoved the money from the cashpoint in my pocket. Paid for the beer with a fiver and the Chinese with a tenner. While waiting I saw a tenner near the counter. I thought I had dropped it so I shoved it in my pocket. I found out later I was a tenner to the good. This is where all the crossroads come in. If I had met my brother none of this would have happened but who knows I may have found 20 notes in the Black Horse so my life is full of bad luck at the moment. last sunday i lost 10 quid in a chinese takeaway on london road and that set off a string of events that led to my electricity being cut off because i was going to top up my meter credit and could not because it was my last tenner ......falling down the stairs in the dark...............contracting a superbug in A&E...... my home being burgled while i was in hospital ...........my wife running off with the dashing doctor that was treating me , and all because someone never handed in a tenner that i had dropped ........fate eh
Knighton Matt Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 last sunday i lost 10 quid in a chinese takeaway on london road and that set off a string of events that led to my electricity being cut off because i was going to top up my meter credit and could not because it was my last tenner ......falling down the stairs in the dark...............contracting a superbug in A&E...... my home being burgled while i was in hospital ...........my wife running off with the dashing doctor that was treating me , and all because someone never handed in a tenner that i had dropped ........fate eh :laugh:
Rincewind Posted 23 August 2006 Posted 23 August 2006 Ah well the feckled finger of fate. You've got to laugh haven't you?
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