Do you believe in fate?

[Fez of Mahrez]

Just been out shopping on my lunch break and found a shirt I wanted for £20, thought to myself "that'll do" and went to the counter. The lady behind the counter was on the phone though so I had a quick browse through a sale rack I had just noticed. Here in this very rack was the same style of shirt in a slightly less palatable shade of the same colour for a mere twelve of yer English pounds. Weighed it up in my head and went for the £20 one as I felt the colour was important to me. Got to the till and she put it through for a tenner!

I nearly didn't spot the £12 shirt and I nearly didn't buy the £10 one but all in all I saved myself a tenner that I will probably waste on rubbish.

Life is amazing though. Such a tedious sequence of events can get you thinking about fate. Where will I meet my future wife? How many people who you pass on the street could be new best mates waiting to be met? Where will I find a job that taxes my brain enough not to think about buying shirts in terms of fate?

Think about the 50/50 decisions that your ancestors have made in the past, some of which will have led to you leading the life you do. Personally, I think fate is just a word for the fact that you can't turn back time and alter decisions you have previously made.

Does anyone believe in fate or destiny?

[Bert]

Yes i believe in fate.

Especially when it comes to betting.

[The People's Hero]

Yes.

[Ric Flair]

I believe in school fates.

[Daggers]

Nope - I believe in life!

I reckon that if you go out and about, are positive and can be nice to everyone you meet then good stuff happens. The nature of the brain is to remember key things, which leads to the forgetting of the hundreds of times 'fate' doesn't happen.

The thing I try to do is step back during moments of happiness and try to take everything in, to appreciate it all. Everything after that moment is geared towards getting another opportunity to do the same thing.

I don't earn at the moment, which is bad, but I just got to spend two hours with my son at his school doing a maths lesson with him. I will always treasure that moment in the knowledge that so many parents never get that opportunity because of work committments. It was hard wrenching myself away from career and money - but my life is SO much better now, I am so much happier.

Some would say that fate is the luck/life you made for yourself. That definition I could go along with. I don't think that I am here because of luck, I am at this space in time through choice not unseen hands.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Nope - I believe in life!

I reckon that if you go out and about, are positive and can be nice to everyone you meet then good stuff happens. The nature of the brain is to remember key things, which leads to the forgetting of the hundreds of times 'fate' doesn't happen.

The thing I try to do is step back during moments of happiness and try to take everything in, to appreciate it all. Everything after that moment is geared towards getting another opportunity to do the same thing.

I don't earn at the moment, which is bad, but I just got to spend two hours with my son at his school doing a maths lesson with him. I will always treasure that moment in the knowledge that so many parents never get that opportunity because of work committments. It was hard wrenching myself away from career and money - but my life is SO much better now, I am so much happier.

Some would say that fate is the luck/life you made for yourself. That definition I could go along with. I don't think that I am here because of luck, I am at this space in time through choice not unseen hands.

That is the reply of a wiser, (older ) man than I, if you don't mind me saying. I think the world would be a much easier place to live in if a few more people shared your views about happiness and appreciation.

[Ric Flair]

Nope - I believe in life!

I reckon that if you go out and about, are positive and can be nice to everyone you meet then good stuff happens. The nature of the brain is to remember key things, which leads to the forgetting of the hundreds of times 'fate' doesn't happen.

The thing I try to do is step back during moments of happiness and try to take everything in, to appreciate it all. Everything after that moment is geared towards getting another opportunity to do the same thing.

I don't earn at the moment, which is bad, but I just got to spend two hours with my son at his school doing a maths lesson with him. I will always treasure that moment in the knowledge that so many parents never get that opportunity because of work committments. It was hard wrenching myself away from career and money - but my life is SO much better now, I am so much happier.

Some would say that fate is the luck/life you made for yourself. That definition I could go along with. I don't think that I am here because of luck, I am at this space in time through choice not unseen hands.

May I ask how you get by without earning? I'd like to not work if possible. Your outlook on life is superb and i'm sure if there were more people that followed the way you do things then life would be a whole lot easier for everyone.

[Daggers]

May I ask how you get by without earning? I'd like to not work if possible. Your outlook on life is superb and i'm sure if there were more people that followed the way you do things then life would be a whole lot easier for everyone.

Erm, not earning is a bit misleading. Maybe not working very hard on a paid professional basis would be more accurate!

I do a bit of freelance writing, I fix fiends and neighbours software issues in return for alcohol, I get a student grant, child tax benefit and my student loan. It's a finite career break, because although I can get supply teaching work I'm choosing not to. At the end of this degree, in 2008, I'll go back to teaching unless I get an offer for my book I'm working on. I'd quite like to write childrens fiction, my little one's enjoy a good made up story especially if there are some farts or a burp or two in it. Luckily, I too enjoy a story with farts and burps in it

What helped was being debt free; no credit agreements, no plastic, no monthly payment plans. Our only obligations are the rent on the house and monthly bills. We get sent loads of hand-me-downs for the kids and we have never bothered about being fashion concious. What savings we have are loaded into premium bonds on the hope that they will win and buy us a house [long shot, but we're losing little in the process].

My view on life was shaped by my period of homelessness 20ish years ago ~ I spent 18 months on the streets being beaten up or urinated on simply for not having anywhere to go! I just started walking one day, after a family arguement, and never stopped. At first, I had a rucksack, clothes and tent, but things were stolen along the way until I had nothing but the clothes on my back. My heart goes out to everyone without a roof, my favourite book is Down And Out In Paris And London by Orwell.

I was conditioned by that experience. I would be there now (I suspect) if it hadn't been for a chance meeting and the very kind acts of some beautiful people. As an athiest I really understand how abstention from the chatles of life can provide a focus for religious meditation. Not believing in any God means that I have to have a focus for living...for what is the point if you do not?

Therefore, my focus is to be happy and enjoy life. I reason that we get one hit and so none of us should deny ourselves from experiencing it. If you read The Yes Man by Danny Wallace you can get a humorous angle on accepting responsibility for your life. Why watch people communicating on Big Brother when you could do some real communicating with someone new? Why not stop the people you are walking past and ask one of them for a coffee and a chat? We all know that fear of rejection prevents us from doing daft things like this...but there are achievable levels.

At the risk of sounding like a Life Motivational Consultant from the States (for which I apologise and will allow people to throw fish at me) ...you hold the remote control to life [iMHO]. If you don't like the channel then flip sides. Get a qualification, travel the world, make a baby or just start giving the people you love big hugs. My friends are convinced that I am undergoing a breakdown since we came back from South America because all I do is hug them...but it makes me feel good. Secretly, when they aren't shouting at me to stop or prodding me with sticks to keep me away I think they enjoy it too. Doesn't everyone love to be loved?

My absolute favourite program at the moment is My Name Is Earl...that sums everything up for me. Just do good stuff! I'm a million miles from perfect, I fukc up all the time, but I'm still trying.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Therefore, my focus is to be happy and enjoy life. I reason that we get one hit and so none of us should deny ourselves from experiencing it. If you read The Yes Man by Danny Wallace you can get a humorous angle on accepting responsibility for your life. Why watch people communicating on Big Brother when you could do some real communicating with someone new? Why not stop the people you are walking past and ask one of them for a coffee and a chat? We all know that fear of rejection prevents us from doing daft things like this...but there are achievable levels.

Yes Man is a great book, it helped me maintain a positive frame of mind when I left university and didn't think I'd be able to cope with doing a dead-end 9 to 5 job and be happy in the process. Although he obviously plays his village-idiot role up to suit his career path (think Louis Theroux), he is a likeable bloke.

[MC Prussian]

When I was younger, I used to believe more in chance than in fate. I hated to think about things happening "for a reason", it sounded like everything was already pre-lined for me without being able to change anything at all.

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. We do so many things unconsciously, just by mere instinct or thanks to our genes, I couldn't give an exact answer. And there are other things we do just because we do 'em, on a daily basis. I met a wonderful woman overseas. Now I could say that was by chance, because I had never met her before. But after getting to know her better, it's just funny how some parts of her and my story are similar. So, does that mean "destiny" got us together? I can't tell. I could also say it's just because we're working in similar fields and that all of this was just a simple coincidence.

"Fate" still is a very abstract model, but as you grow older, some of your parents's explanations (the ones you usually rejected straightaway as a kid) are starting to make sense. Not all of them, but some.

Once you reach a certain age (I would say after hitting the 20 mark), you're faced with this enormeousity called life and it's all coming back to choices, I think. You walk on the path that you create for yourself, and if you happen to meet some great people on the way to your dead end, then that's even better.

In that regard, I'd say I don't believe in fate. Life is about learning (from your mistakes) and growing, getting to know yourself a bit better, shaping your own future for yourself, trying to be as good as you can (but not Ãœber-Nice, like many religious people are!). Find a job that you can still see yourself in in 30 years from now, be determined and work your way up, have some fun on the side and soak it all up...

Of course, this is all very theoretical, and I can't live up to those standards completely (all the time). But it's a nice guideline.

[The People's Hero]

Erm, not earning is a bit misleading. Maybe not working very hard on a paid professional basis would be more accurate!

I do a bit of freelance writing, I fix fiends and neighbours software issues in return for alcohol, I get a student grant, child tax benefit and my student loan. It's a finite career break, because although I can get supply teaching work I'm choosing not to. At the end of this degree, in 2008, I'll go back to teaching unless I get an offer for my book I'm working on. I'd quite like to write childrens fiction, my little one's enjoy a good made up story especially if there are some farts or a burp or two in it. Luckily, I too enjoy a story with farts and burps in it

What helped was being debt free; no credit agreements, no plastic, no monthly payment plans. Our only obligations are the rent on the house and monthly bills. We get sent loads of hand-me-downs for the kids and we have never bothered about being fashion concious. What savings we have are loaded into premium bonds on the hope that they will win and buy us a house [long shot, but we're losing little in the process].

My view on life was shaped by my period of homelessness 20ish years ago ~ I spent 18 months on the streets being beaten up or urinated on simply for not having anywhere to go! I just started walking one day, after a family arguement, and never stopped. At first, I had a rucksack, clothes and tent, but things were stolen along the way until I had nothing but the clothes on my back. My heart goes out to everyone without a roof, my favourite book is Down And Out In Paris And London by Orwell.

I was conditioned by that experience. I would be there now (I suspect) if it hadn't been for a chance meeting and the very kind acts of some beautiful people. As an athiest I really understand how abstention from the chatles of life can provide a focus for religious meditation. Not believing in any God means that I have to have a focus for living...for what is the point if you do not?

Therefore, my focus is to be happy and enjoy life. I reason that we get one hit and so none of us should deny ourselves from experiencing it. If you read The Yes Man by Danny Wallace you can get a humorous angle on accepting responsibility for your life. Why watch people communicating on Big Brother when you could do some real communicating with someone new? Why not stop the people you are walking past and ask one of them for a coffee and a chat? We all know that fear of rejection prevents us from doing daft things like this...but there are achievable levels.

At the risk of sounding like a Life Motivational Consultant from the States (for which I apologise and will allow people to throw fish at me) ...you hold the remote control to life [iMHO]. If you don't like the channel then flip sides. Get a qualification, travel the world, make a baby or just start giving the people you love big hugs. My friends are convinced that I am undergoing a breakdown since we came back from South America because all I do is hug them...but it makes me feel good. Secretly, when they aren't shouting at me to stop or prodding me with sticks to keep me away I think they enjoy it too. Doesn't everyone love to be loved?

My absolute favourite program at the moment is My Name Is Earl...that sums everything up for me. Just do good stuff! I'm a million miles from perfect, I fukc up all the time, but I'm still trying.

That's a really wonderful post.

[Phube]

TBH I don't believe anyone REALLY believes in fate, becuase if you did you would take no responsibility for any thing in your life.

For instance crossing a road; if you really believed in fate you wouldn't need to look, you'd just cross - whether you got hit or not would be left to FATE.

I seriously find it hard to believe anyone would ever do this!! You can prove me wrong though!!

[Guest]

I believe the children are the future.

[Nationwider]

I believe the children are the future.

But... Do you believe in life after love?

I can feel something inside me say

I really don't think you're strong enough

[Knighton Matt]

But... Do you believe in life after love?

I can feel something inside me say

I really don't think you're strong enough

Looks so much more credible written than sung with some of the most ridiculous vocal distortion I've ever heard...

[Nationwider]

Looks so much more credible written than sung with some of the most ridiculous vocal distortion I've ever heard...

Sung by the woman with some of the most ridiculous physical distortion ever seen.

[macbeth]

Just been out shopping on my lunch break and found a shirt I wanted for £20, thought to myself "that'll do" and went to the counter. The lady behind the counter was on the phone though so I had a quick browse through a sale rack I had just noticed. Here in this very rack was the same style of shirt in a slightly less palatable shade of the same colour for a mere twelve of yer English pounds. Weighed it up in my head and went for the £20 one as I felt the colour was important to me. Got to the till and she put it through for a tenner!

I nearly didn't spot the £12 shirt and I nearly didn't buy the £10 one but all in all I saved myself a tenner that I will probably waste on rubbish.

Life is amazing though. Such a tedious sequence of events can get you thinking about fate. Where will I meet my future wife? How many people who you pass on the street could be new best mates waiting to be met? Where will I find a job that taxes my brain enough not to think about buying shirts in terms of fate?

Think about the 50/50 decisions that your ancestors have made in the past, some of which will have led to you leading the life you do. Personally, I think fate is just a word for the fact that you can't turn back time and alter decisions you have previously made.

Does anyone believe in fate or destiny?

have you ever heard "the weaver's answer" by that excellent leicester group Family (roger chapman) heres the lyrics; but you really need to hear it to appreciate it

Weaver of life, let me look and see

The pattern of my life gone by

Shown on your tapestry

Just for one second, one glance upon your loom

The flower of my childhood could appear within this room

Does it of my youth show tears of yesterday

Broken hearts within a heart as love first came my way

Did the lifeline patterns change as I became a man

An added aura untold blends as I asked for her hand

Did your golden needle sow its thread virginal white

As lovers we embraced as one upon our wedding night

Did you capture all the joys, the birth of our first son

The happiness of family made a brother for the one

The growing of the brothers, the manliness that grew

Is it there in detail, is it there to view

Do the sparks of life grow bright as one by one they wed

To live as fathers, husbands, apart from lives they've led

Are my lover's threads cut off when aged she laid to rest

My sorrow blacking out a space upon our woven crest

A gathering for the last time as her coffin slowly lain

Ash to ashes, dust to dust, one day we will regain

Does it show the visits when grandchildren on my knee

But only hearing laughter when age took my sight from me

Lastly through these last few years of loniless maybe

Does by sight a shooting star fade from your tapestry

But wait, there in the distance your loom I think I see

Could it be that after all my prayers you've answered me

After days of wondering I see the reason why

You've kept it to this minute for I'm about to die

Weaver of life, at last now I can see

The pattern of my life gone by upon your tapestry

[crazy horse]

have you ever heard "the weaver's answer" by that excellent leicester group Family (roger chapman) heres the lyrics; but you really need to hear it to appreciate it

Weaver of life, let me look and see

The pattern of my life gone by

Shown on your tapestry

Just for one second, one glance upon your loom

The flower of my childhood could appear within this room

Does it of my youth show tears of yesterday

Broken hearts within a heart as love first came my way

Did the lifeline patterns change as I became a man

An added aura untold blends as I asked for her hand

Did your golden needle sow its thread virginal white

As lovers we embraced as one upon our wedding night

Did you capture all the joys, the birth of our first son

The happiness of family made a brother for the one

The growing of the brothers, the manliness that grew

Is it there in detail, is it there to view

Do the sparks of life grow bright as one by one they wed

To live as fathers, husbands, apart from lives they've led

Are my lover's threads cut off when aged she laid to rest

My sorrow blacking out a space upon our woven crest

A gathering for the last time as her coffin slowly lain

Ash to ashes, dust to dust, one day we will regain

Does it show the visits when grandchildren on my knee

But only hearing laughter when age took my sight from me

Lastly through these last few years of loniless maybe

Does by sight a shooting star fade from your tapestry

But wait, there in the distance your loom I think I see

Could it be that after all my prayers you've answered me

After days of wondering I see the reason why

You've kept it to this minute for I'm about to die

Weaver of life, at last now I can see

The pattern of my life gone by upon your tapestry

thats so under played whenever Family gets a mention on radio

i can't remember the last time i heard it played

it was absolutely brilliant......thanks for the reminder!

[Knighton Matt]

I believe that fate has brought us here...

[Fez of Mahrez]

I believe that fate has brought us here...

Ooooooooooooooh! This is one of mine! :pinch:

[Finnegan]

Fate caused this thread to be tredged up? For what purpose? Mysterious.

[Knighton Matt]

Ooooooooooooooh! This is one of mine! :pinch:

Fate caused this thread to be tredged up? For what purpose? Mysterious.

Well I was searching for my premium bonds thread and stumbled across this and thought it must be fate

[Bert]

I believe in fate.

If something is going to happen it'll happen and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it.

IMO.

[golden gordon]

I believe in fate.

If something is going to happen it'll happen and there's pretty much nothing you can do to stop it.

IMO.

there's a flaw in this logic somewhere

[Finnegan]

Everyone's conciously in control of their own actions, so there can't really be fate. If someone twats me, it isn't fate, it's probably because they wanted to do.