If God made all of us .........................

[shen]

God didn't make us, so the question doesn't make sense

[blue blood]

God created humans, with the ability to determine right from wrong......humans become tarnished over many hundreds of years and the ability to determine whats right and whats wrong erodes, the lines become blurred for some. Therefore humans created pedos. We have lost touch with the real meanings of life and how to feel contentment without material possesions.

[filbertway]

God didn't make us, twas evolution and all that malarky

[shen]

God created humans, with the ability to determine right from wrong......humans become tarnished over many hundreds of years and the ability to determine whats right and whats wrong erodes, the lines become blurred for some. Therefore humans created pedos. We have lost touch with the real meanings of life and how to feel contentment without material possesions.

I don't want to offend, but that made me laugh..

[blue blood]

this can be an eternal debate.

i think if one believes in the concept of the Soul then the question can easily be answered if one does not believe in the soul then it makes things difficult.

I think Karma also comes into it.

[blue blood]

I don't want to offend, but that made me laugh..

care to expand??

[filbertway]

this can be an eternal debate.

i think if one believes in the concept of the Soul then the question can easily be answered if one does not believe in the soul then it makes things difficult.

I think Karma also comes into it.

Let the debating begin, this thread will be longer than any other on foxestalk

[blue blood]

Let the debating begin, this thread will be longer than any other on foxestalk

would you like a brief explanation on how the soul works?

[blue blood]

i will be a first team player before the nights up in that case

[filbertway]

would you like a brief explanation on how the soul works?

Go for it

[shen]

care to expand??

Well, to me, that was just some religious cr*p. Isn't it contradictory that someone who lives in the contemporary can say whether man could separate right from wrong in his original state as he himself cannot? How would he know?

Furthermore, who or what defines what is right and what is wrong? Isn't it society that says paedophilia is wrong?

[filbertway]

Well, to me, that was just some religious cr*p. Isn't it contradictory that someone who lives in the contemporary can say whether man could separate right from wrong in his original state as he himself cannot? How would he know?

:pinch:

[shen]

:pinch:

What? Did I open up a can of worms? :pinch:

[filbertway]

What? Did I open up a can of worms? :pinch:

No I just couldn't understand what you said. halfway through the second sentence i Just lost it.

[shen]

No I just couldn't understand what you said. halfway through the second sentence i Just lost it.

Human Then: Untarnished, knew right from wrong

Human Today: Tarnished, doesn't know right from wrong

Human Today uses terms (right & wrong) that he can't distinguish from one another. How can he then distinguish how Past Humans could?

Does that make it clearer?

[blue blood]

Go for it

the soul is a white energy that we all have, the seed of all humans.

In its purest form it is an ocean of love. Over many incarnations (remember the soul is a continuum ....it does not die when the body does..it continues its journey in another body) the soul will become tarnished with the 5 vices (ego, Lust, Anger, Greed and envy) as this process kicks in the soul looses its ability to determine right from wrong as the conscience becomes a little more dormant. This takes many rebirths. the conscience is the thing that we use to determine whether we should do something or not, if we loose our ability to do this wrong does not get questioned and we just do it without thinking. the spiral is down hill as these habits we take into our next carnation and so on and so forth.

When the soul is bonded to the vices we deem it normal to do things that are bad like become pedos etc.

please feel free to ask questions

[blue blood]

Well, to me, that was just some religious cr*p. Isn't it contradictory that someone who lives in the contemporary can say whether man could separate right from wrong in his original state as he himself cannot? How would he know?

Furthermore, who or what defines what is right and what is wrong? Isn't it society that says paedophilia is wrong?

society tries to determine right from wrong on a group scale.

if we sharpen out intellect and conscience we can determine what is right and wrong, do you ever have a gut feeling? that a form of your conscience telling you something is right or wrong

[shen]

the soul is a white energy that we all have, the seed of all humans.

In its purest form it is an ocean of love. Over many incarnations (remember the soul is a continuum ....it does not die when the body does..it continues its journey in another body) the soul will become tarnished with the 5 vices (ego, Lust, Anger, Greed and envy) as this process kicks in the soul looses its ability to determine right from wrong as the conscience becomes a little more dormant. This takes many rebirths. the conscience is the thing that we use to determine whether we should do something or not, if we loose our ability to do this wrong does not get questioned and we just do it without thinking. the spiral is down hill as these habits we take into our next carnation and so on and so forth.

When the soul is bonded to the vices we deem it normal to do things that are bad like become pedos etc.

please feel free to ask questions

Is there a period where a soul finds itself without a vessel?

[blue blood]

Human Then: Untarnished, knew right from wrong

Human Today: Tarnished, doesn't know right from wrong

Human Today uses terms (right & wrong) that he can't distinguish from one another. How can he then distinguish how Past Humans could?

Does that make it clearer?

almost!!

Human Then: Untarnished, didnt need to know right from wrong as there was no need for wrong as the intellect was sharp enough to know no wrong

Human Today: Tarnished, doesn't know right from wrong

Human Today uses terms (right & wrong) that he can't distinguish from one another. How can he then distinguish how Past Humans could?

[blue blood]

Is there a period where a soul finds itself without a vessel?

good question, if you dont mind me asking are you spiritual?

there is only 1 time when a soul is without a vessel. Its deep but there will come a time when souls will be taken home (aarmageddon) and the purest souls will take their right ful place on earth. tarnished souls will take their rightfull place later on in the cycle.

[shen]

almost!!

Human Then: Untarnished, didnt need to know right from wrong as there was no need for wrong as the intellect was sharp enough to know no wrong

Human Today: Tarnished, doesn't know right from wrong

Human Today uses terms (right & wrong) that he can't distinguish from one another. How can he then distinguish how Past Humans could?

You're no Christian are you, as the whole Adam/Eve/Apple story would dismiss this part as they were the initial human beings, according to the Bible of course.

[Daggers]

Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling

Do you feel my heart beating, do you understand?

Do you feel the same, am I only dreaming?

Is this burning an eternal flame?

I believe it's meant to be, darling

I watch when you are sleeping, you belong to me

Do you feel the same, am I only dreaming

Or is this burning an eternal flame?

Say my name, sun shines through the rain

A whole life so lonely, and then you come and ease the pain

I don't want to lose this feeling

[break]

Say my name, sun shines through the rain

A whole life so lonely, and then you come and ease the pain

I don't want to lose this feeling

Close your eyes and give me your hand

Do you feel my heart beating, do you understand?

Do you feel the same, am I only dreaming

Or is this burning an eternal flame?

[break]

Is this burning an eternal flame?

An eternal flame?

(Close your eyes and give me your hand

Do you feel my heart beating, do you understand?

Do you feel the same, am I only dreaming

Or is this burning an eternal flame?)

[shen]

good question, if you dont mind me asking are you spiritual?

there is only 1 time when a soul is without a vessel. Its deep but there will come a time when souls will be taken home (aarmageddon) and the purest souls will take their right ful place on earth. tarnished souls will take their rightfull place later on in the cycle.

Not really, but I'd like to keep an open mind about it. At least, with this explanation I can dismiss the existence of ghosts

However, the way you tell it, there will always be an exponential increase in vessels. If e.g. humans were to eradicate half of Earth's living species, where would those souls go?

[blue blood]

Not really, but I'd like to keep an open mind about it. At least, with this explanation I can dismiss the existence of ghosts

However, the way you tell it, there will always be an exponential increase in vessels. If e.g. humans were to eradicate half of Earth's living species, where would those souls go?

the souls are energies and they would go where the supreme soul resides (the supreme soul does not come into the cycle of birth and rebirth therefor stays pure.) the soul energies will stay there until there time comes to take a carnation.

say for example soul1 is 100% pure and soul 2 is 50% pure, the soul 1 will start at the begining of the cycle and the 2nd soul will take its place half way through the cycle.

a good way to see this is like this. Imagine you go to watch a film, you go in right at the begining and watch the whole film and someone else comes in to watch the film half way through. the end of the film will not make sence to the person that came in half way through but you will understand the whole film as you have seen the whole thing.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Is this burning an eternal flame?

My mate has that on his computer as External Flame.