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De Vries to join up with Levein

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Ric Flair

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If Levein did indeed sign him, it would show remarkable loyalty on his part, and highlight his inability to learn from mistakes. But then it would be in Scotland, and MDV seems able to score there. Hell of a risk though!

de Vries actually scored 9 goals in about 25 games for us last season, which isn't that bad. What it does hide though is how badly he still played in most matches and how many chances he wasted.

He would still score goals up there, let's hope the sweaty wants to sign him again.

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de Vries actually scored 9 goals in about 25 games for us last season, which isn't that bad. What it does hide though is how badly he still played in most matches and how many chances he wasted.

He would still score goals up there, let's hope the sweaty wants to sign him again.

Ironic really.

That equates to 13/14 goals a season and it doesn't look like any second striker we've got right now is going to get near that.

And where might another six or seven goals thus far have put us in the League considering we've only lost twice by more than one goal.

It doesn't quite work like that of course. Even had we got two strikers capable of scoring we'd still have concentrated principally on simply defending any lead we had, rather than adding to it.

But what the statistics also demonstrate is the value of a big alternative up front...

No, this is not a "come back MDV" appeal but I notice MON's soon got himself a big option. I don't think Leicester have got a big striker (apart from MDV) on their staff, not even in the Academy.

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Ironic really.

That equates to 13/14 goals a season and it doesn't look like any second striker we've got right now is going to get near that.

And where might another six or seven goals thus far have put us in the League considering we've only lost twice by more than one goal.

It doesn't quite work like that of course. Even had we got two strikers capable of scoring we'd still have concentrated principally on simply defending any lead we had, rather than adding to it.

But what the statistics also demonstrate is the value of a big alternative up front...

No, this is not a "come back MDV" appeal but I notice MON's soon got himself a big option. I don't think Leicester have got a big striker (apart from MDV) on their staff, not even in the Academy.

I think you're forgetting someone.

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I think you're forgetting someone.

If you mean Doddsy I wouldn't quite call him big - but perhaps big enough especially considering how mobile he is. And he'd be in the team squad snappy quick if it were up to me.

COG? Not really big and certainly not supplying the evidence that he's a striker as such, more a ball holder.

Is there anyone else? Apologies if so!

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Ironic really.

That equates to 13/14 goals a season and it doesn't look like any second striker we've got right now is going to get near that.

And where might another six or seven goals thus far have put us in the League considering we've only lost twice by more than one goal.

It doesn't quite work like that of course. Even had we got two strikers capable of scoring we'd still have concentrated principally on simply defending any lead we had, rather than adding to it.

But what the statistics also demonstrate is the value of a big alternative up front...

No, this is not a "come back MDV" appeal but I notice MON's soon got himself a big option. I don't think Leicester have got a big striker (apart from MDV) on their staff, not even in the Academy.

So Humes not going to manage another 5 or 6 goals this season then.

EDIT: Sorry just read the second striker thing.......I'd put money on Fryatt getting 10 in all comps though.

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So Humes not going to manage another 5 or 6 goals this season then.

EDIT: Sorry just read the second striker thing.......I'd put money on Fryatt getting 10 in all comps though.

I agree.

I would hope Fryatt finds the form he had last season and i'd like to see him improve, which would mean another 10-12 goals for the remainder of the season.

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Ironic really.

That equates to 13/14 goals a season and it doesn't look like any second striker we've got right now is going to get near that.

And where might another six or seven goals thus far have put us in the League considering we've only lost twice by more than one goal.

It doesn't quite work like that of course. Even had we got two strikers capable of scoring we'd still have concentrated principally on simply defending any lead we had, rather than adding to it.

But what the statistics also demonstrate is the value of a big alternative up front...

No, this is not a "come back MDV" appeal but I notice MON's soon got himself a big option. I don't think Leicester have got a big striker (apart from MDV) on their staff, not even in the Academy.

I couldn't agree more.

Yet another player discarded without forethought and one we could desperately do with as a 3rd option after Hume and Fryatt.

As for those suggesting O'Grady, give me a break he is rubbish and will achieve what de Vries has in his career.

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We do need a big striker and I always thought we should get Alan Lee from Ipswich but there's not much chance of that now. We could have got Sutton when he was at Brum and Fryatt got injured but Steve Bruce told Rob his legs had gone. O'Grady showed good form last season but has been awful this season except againts Sunderland.

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Chirs O'Grady is 6ft 3!!!

Thats big in my book!

And mine!

I didn't realise he was that big - I honestly thought he was about six foot but solid with it.

The question then is, considering he has excellent shooting technique - why don't we have a specialist striker working on his offensive heading, his fast close control, his finding of space in the box and his partnership work with individuals. Or do we have one I don't know about.

And why isn't he used more? I know he's been injured but even before that he was a bit part player who's never really been let off the leash. I could never understand the difference in how he played for the reserves - with freedom to orchestrate things - and the limited role he always played for the firsts (Macclesfield apart).

And don't anyone say he can't control the ball and hasn't got pace. His control can be fine and he's got enough speed, stamina and strength to get chances against anyone.

MDV wouldn't score many marks in the control and pace department but we definitely need some height and physical presence up there with Hume.

With our right wing problems it makes me think more and more about Hammond out widish, Hume and COG/Louis Dodds up front and attacking full-backs.

Fryatt could get his fitness back by coming in off the bench.

There'd be no problem doing this if RK would ditch Johnson once and for all, put Stearman back where he belongs and use Tiatto/Sheehan at left-back, not because Nils hasn't done okay but because he doesn't compliment the style of play we need to be looking for.

You'd have a side like:

Logan;

Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Sheehan/Tiatto;

Williams;

Weso/King, Porter;

Hume,

Hammond O'Grady

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Subs: Whoever including Dodds and Fryatt.

A central diamond (a la Chelsea) and a team with pace, passing, movement, overlapping, natural fluidity. It starts to look like a unit instead of a bunch of disjointed sections. Furthermore the team would then have eight/nine potential scorers instead of three or four...and more natural passers.

Don't get me wrong, I like 4-4-2 but we don't have the personnel for it.

:whistle::whistle: Awaits castigation for leaving out McCarthy, Nils, Sylla, Hughes and Welsh.

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So Humes not going to manage another 5 or 6 goals this season then.

EDIT: Sorry just read the second striker thing.......I'd put money on Fryatt getting 10 in all comps though.

Careful - someone had a bet with me at the beginning of the season about Fryatt netting 18 and it looks like my pint's safe. Fryatt has the ability to score 10 but will need to be fit first and to keep others out of the side who could probably do more for it right now.

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And mine!

I didn't realise he was that big - I honestly thought he was about six foot but solid with it.

The question then is, considering he has excellent shooting technique - why don't we have a specialist striker working on his offensive heading, his fast close control, his finding of space in the box and his partnership work with individuals. Or do we have one I don't know about.

And why isn't he used more? I know he's been injured but even before that he was a bit part player who's never really been let off the leash. I could never understand the difference in how he played for the reserves - with freedom to orchestrate things - and the limited role he always played for the firsts (Macclesfield apart).

And don't anyone say he can't control the ball and hasn't got pace. His control can be fine and he's got enough speed, stamina and strength to get chances against anyone.

MDV wouldn't score many marks in the control and pace department but we definitely need some height and physical presence up there with Hume.

With our right wing problems it makes me think more and more about Hammond out widish, Hume and COG/Louis Dodds up front and attacking full-backs.

Fryatt could get his fitness back by coming in off the bench.

There'd be no problem doing this if RK would ditch Johnson once and for all, put Stearman back where he belongs and use Tiatto/Sheehan at left-back, not because Nils hasn't done okay but because he doesn't compliment the style of play we need to be looking for.

You'd have a side like:

Logan;

Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Sheehan/Tiatto;

Williams;

Weso/King, Porter;

Hume,

Hammond O'Grady

.

Subs: Whoever including Dodds and Fryatt.

A central diamond (a la Chelsea) and a team with pace, passing, movement, overlapping, natural fluidity. It starts to look like a unit instead of a bunch of disjointed sections. Furthermore the team would then have eight/nine potential scorers instead of three or four...and more natural passers.

Don't get me wrong, I like 4-4-2 but we don't have the personnel for it.

:whistle::whistle: Awaits castigation for leaving out McCarthy, Nils, Sylla, Hughes and Welsh.

It amazes me that you think that approach's like these would be so much better than our current one. That sides going to concead two goals a game and there is only one player in the side who scores frequently. Your front two would probabley score about 10 a season between them.

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Careful - someone had a bet with me at the beginning of the season about Fryatt netting 18 and it looks like my pint's safe. Fryatt has the ability to score 10 but will need to be fit first and to keep others out of the side who could probably do more for it right now.

There is a big differnce between 10 and 18. Whoever said 18 may as well of bought you the pint there and then.

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