new rules for teachers

[Brainy]

1) teachers can confiscate mobile phones

2) teachers can give out Saturday detentions

3) teachers are aloud to use reasonable force splitting up a fight or removing a student from the class room

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How many kids would turn up for a Saturday detention?

[Trumpet]

To break up a fight- yes I will use reasonable force. Generally simply separating the children is enough (with primary school children thats easier than secondary school pupils). Will I use force to remove a child from a classroom? No, that would be a completel different kettle of fish.

Confiscate mobile phones- definitely, its already being done.

Detentions on Saturday- why? Why would I do that? That would mean a teacher having to supervise it!

If its like double time, i wouldnt mind supervising and watching the little ******* suffer

[Rincewind]

Teachers have always had to break up fights but may now have to have specialist traing to do it without risk to themselves or pupil. There are man-management courses available. Maybe even a lisense could be needed like door supervisors aka bouncers. My brother once said that if you lose your temper with a class then you have lost control and the respect of them. It is not easy making the lesson so interesting that it will turn the kids attention away from boys/girls/sex/football and Foxestalk.

[Daggers]

Various Laws are made etc, balh, blah!! But who the fook is going to enforce them!!!

I know teachers that give detentions and kids don't attend etc, what happens then???

There are many problems with society at the mo, alot is related to upbringing and discipline from peers!!!

The changes to the law is just to cement the rights teachers & schools have held under common law...it makes no difference in the day to day running of schools simply because this is how they are run at the moment. Different Heads, different governing bodies interpret them differently (as is their right).

With regards non-attendance, I've covered that in the response to Chris below

How many kids would turn up for a Saturday detention?

As I said, the Head ran Saturday detentions (and holiday detentions) - it was scaled. Depending on the severity of the incident it would be dealt with by class teacher - head of department - head of year - school detention - Head's detention.

Obviously, the sanction for non-attendance to a detention is to progress up the ladder of severity. A second non-attendance or previous dicking about would result in instant suspension. The parents would be called into school and the miscreant would not be allowed to return until they did.

This hurts the parents because they will miss either morning TV or the afternoon on the sofa session!

I taught in secondary schools for nigh-on 12 years and witnessed a real decline in standards, led by the boys and then bettered by the girls. For me it comes down to one issue - RESPECT.

Almost every dickhead I have had to deal with has no respect for themself, thanks to the parents that should have been chemically banned from having children. Having no respect for their own bodies, their own future, their own environment and friends makes it impossible for them to respect anything else.

I care deeply about education, I think it is so important...not just for future employment but for the benefit of society. Say what you like about Blair but he actually wants to address the issue of piss-poor parenting. Whether he is doing it the right way, whether it will have any effect is debatable...but no other politician has spoken of it before.

As it is, we plan on buying a house in another catchment area in three years time and my kids are learning karate.

[Gav_LCFC]

2) teachers can give out Saturday detentions

WHAT !! and miss every Leicester game

[cisono]

I blame the 60's sex revolution, mainly because I didn't get any of it! Was it really going on?

So I hear. I cannot testify to that. It happened a bit too early for me to experience it!

[Thracian]

So I hear. I cannot testify to that. It happened a bit too early for me to experience it!

I guess we 60's teens will never know what we missed.

[potter3]

2) teachers can give out Saturday detentions

WHAT !! and miss every Leicester game

Thats probably the reasoning behind it