Raj Posted 26 July 2007 Posted 26 July 2007 The likes of USA, China and India are the countries that need to be targeted. Until their factories cut down and the yanks get out of their V8's and into nissan micras (funny) there is little point in turning your TV off standby - it would be like trying to find a needle in space not a haystack. You can bet that this is all warming up so they the govt can bring in another load of stealth taxes - but they will then do it "because they want to save the planet". It is all a load of bollocks when they have just ordered two of the largest aircraft carriers ever and are about to blow billions on replacing trident - neither of which are environmentally friendly. Too many people have fell for this crap and when you challenge them they think you are evil because you dont care about the planet. Dont get me wrong I do care but you could target bigger demons than the common man. All China and India and likewise countries are doing is trying to stabilise their economy and make themselves self dependant and richer. Just like the Western world did many years ago. Whilst the likes of China,India etcc suffered then it is now their time to try and play catch up,and unfortunately the only way they can do that is by doing exactly what the US etc did all them years ago
Fox in a Box Posted 26 July 2007 Author Posted 26 July 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6908507.stmBringing this up again. Wasn't it for my being a total stranger to Leicestershire I'd do something myself. I rest my case Last Updated: Tuesday, 24 July 2007, 05:50 GMT 06:50 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version Can football save the planet? By Sarah Holt Football and the environment Does football have a responsibility to go green? Legendary manager Bill Shankly reckoned football was more important than life and death, but where does it stand on saving the planet? The sport takes its toll on the environment by motivating thousands of fans to travel to matches, its stadiums guzzle huge amounts of energy and its star players can afford to live a consumerist life in the fast lane. BBC Sport looks at just what is being done to reduce the impact football has on the global climate. CLUBS The impact of human activity on the environment is calculated in terms of a Carbon Footprint, measured in units of carbon dioxide. With stadiums and training grounds to maintain and travel to and from games, football clubs are making a hefty imprint. We will be the first stadium of any kind in the world to have its own turbine Pete Bradshaw on Manchester City's plans Ipswich Town chose to do something about it, and in May they became the first football club in the UK to become carbon neutral. The club worked out it produced 3,200 tonnes of carbon dioxide a season and successfully off-set this by asking supporters to make specific pledges to save energy. The incentive was based on football; when the club hit their target - with 14,000 pledges made - manager Jim Magilton was rewarded with a five-figure sum towards transfers by main sponser E.ON. "It has never been done before," Ipswich captain Jason de Vos, who encouraged fans to take public transport, use high-efficiency lightbulbs and turn down their boilers, told BBC Sport. "The club has made changes to the way the stadium is run, some of the players have been car-pooling - it's not going to save the world but it has raised awareness about the need to conserve energy." 606: DEBATE Should all sports go green? Your thoughts Manchester City has gone further - by October 2007 the club will be producing its own energy. City is building a wind turbine to provide all the electricity for Eastlands, with a further 20% sold on, though the club will still run the floodlights from generators. "We will be the first stadium of any kind in the world to have its own turbine," City's social responsibility manager, Pete Bradshaw, told BBC Sport. City are also making good use of all the rubbish off the pitch, turning glass into footpaths, grass cuttings into compost, paper into insulation and plastic cups and bottles - all 8 million of them per season - into blinds and furniture. Liverpool's 'Sweeper Zone' truck Liverpool's Sweeper Zone scheme encourages kids to keep the city litter free "We recycle 90-100% of everything we use," explained Richards. "This club grew out of Manchester. As a responsible community business it's important for us that the environment is on our agenda. It's essential." Arsenal and Middlesbrough are also considering installing wind turbines, while Liverpool run a scheme that rewards youngsters who pick up litter with match tickets. But when it comes to taking a holistic approach to its stadium, non-league Dartford have got the jump on their high-flying counterparts. Princes Park is the UK's first sustainable stadium, built from renewable timber with a grass roof and sunk two metres below ground level to reduce noise and light pollution. The average pitch needs 20,000 litres of water a day but Dartford have two lakes to feed the pitch while solar panels generate energy. PLAYERS With cash to splash on thirsty sports cars, long-haul holidays and sizeable pads, it is hard to see footballers fretting over whether they have sorted their recycling properly. What is undeniable, however, is that footballers are global role models and if the sport is to go green then the glamour boys need to get on board. Portsmouth keeper David James James is a green giant in footballing circles "Rightly or wrongly people look up to footballers," said De Vos. "If we can do our part to get the message across that can only benefit the environment. "I think we have an obligation because of the status we hold." Amongst the elite players, England and Portsmouth goalkeeper David James has emerged as an environmental evangelist and is keen to strike an ethical compromise between success and consumerism. "The are one or two gas guzzlers at the club but generally we're pretty good," James told the BBC. "You can't stop people wanting to drive fast cars but there is an argument that the bigger car you drive, the higher tax you pay which would go to environmental causes." For his part, James has converted his mammoth Chrysler car to run on rapeseed oil or "grow your own fuel," as he calls it. The stopper also recycles, grows his own vegetables, is restoring his Devon farmhouse and set up the David James Foundation to nurture sustainable agricultural projects in Malawi. "We do contribute to greenhouse gases and so there is no reason why football as a fraternity across the globe can't help." FANS Going along to support your team can be a painful experience but the average football fan probably does not know that they are doing an awful lot of damage themselves. At Cardiff University, Dr. Andrea Collins researches the environmental impact of sporting events, amongst them the 2004 FA Cup final between Millwall and Manchester United. That day, the average fan left a carbon footprint seven times greater than the average UK resident. Food and drink consumption per average 10 fans at the 2004 FA Cup final Food & drink consumed per average 10 fans at the 2004 FA Cup final "At sporting events you have time-concentrated consumption," Collins told BBC Sport. "Fans travel huge distances, consume huge amounts of food and create a large volume of waste." The biggest factor is match-day travel. The 73,000 fans who went to the Millennium Stadium travelled an estimated 43 million kilometres, with 47% of that distance covered by car. "If car travel switched to public transport the impact could be reduced by 24%," said Collins. "One simple solution would be to include the price of a train or bus ticket in the match ticket." James has already put that idea to the Football Association, who are "thinking about it". Collins added: "There are still environmental consequences outside of the stadium, such as waste and pollution, that aren't being addressed. "The organisers, the hosts and the spectators all have a responsibility. Sport is a very good vehicle to help communicate the link between sport and the environment - but more needs to be done." THE GOVERNING BODIES James wants football's governing bodies in the UK to practise more "joined-up thinking" on environmental issues. Both the karmic keeper and Collins suggest a green league that rewards environmentally friendly clubs with a place in Europe, rather than those that are friendly on the pitch. It's about educating others about the importance of being environmentally aware Premier League That idea is probably a little too radical for the FA, but the governing body has been inspired by Al Gore's Live Earth concert, held at Wembley earlier this month, and is formulating a green policy this summer. A spokesman said: "Anything we can inherit from the lessons of Live Earth we'll take on board, from noise pollution, to recycling and turning lights off." While the FA is not being prescriptive, the Premier League is researching a policy of good practice for all their 20 clubs. "We already know some clubs are acting in an innovative fashion to conserve energy, recycle and reduce water usage," a spokesman said. "It's now about building on this and educating others about the importance of being environmentally aware." If times really are a-changin' along with the climate then football could just be the next high-profile signing to the global "team green".
Raj Posted 26 July 2007 Posted 26 July 2007 Very interesting read Fox in a BOx. Glad some people out there don't just bury their heads in the sand, and actually do something about it!
MBK Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 Final post on what's now a boring topic for all; City Matchday Programme Goes Green Posted on: Tue 07 Aug 2007 Leicester City Football Club is to become the first club in the UK to produce an environmentally-credible matchday programme for every home Championship match this season. In line with the club's increased environmental awareness, the Foxes have employed the help of long-standing professional printing partners Polar Print Group Limited of Leicester to help them produce a more eco-friendly product. The award-winning 72-page programme will be created using Polar's low alcohol print technology and vegetable-oil based inks on paper sourced from sustainable forestry (with a high content of post-consumer recycled waste added) approved by the Forestry Stewardship Council. Leicester City Chief Executive Tim Davies said: "We are delighted to have agreed a new environmentally friendly option for our matchday programme and to be using Polar Print's services once again. "As a responsible community business it is important for us that the environment is taken into consideration. "We've got to make use of football as a role model for environmental change." Polar Print Managing Director, David Gask added: "As an extremely loyal supplier to Leicester City for almost two decades, we are pleased that the club have opted to adopt the full environment print and paper option with ourselves. "The game holds a powerful influence over children and adults around the world and we firmly believe that the matchday programme is a very good vehicle to help communicate the link between sport and the environment to the thousands of fans who read the quality product." Elsewhere, to make the Walkers Stadium more environmentally-friendly the club has already reduced its landfill, cut down on the use of packaging - inward and outward and recycles a range of items including paper, card, glass, grass cuttings and some waste foods.
Raj Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 Final post on what's now a boring topic for all;City Matchday Programme Goes Green Posted on: Tue 07 Aug 2007 Leicester City Football Club is to become the first club in the UK to produce an environmentally-credible matchday programme for every home Championship match this season. In line with the club's increased environmental awareness, the Foxes have employed the help of long-standing professional printing partners Polar Print Group Limited of Leicester to help them produce a more eco-friendly product. The award-winning 72-page programme will be created using Polar's low alcohol print technology and vegetable-oil based inks on paper sourced from sustainable forestry (with a high content of post-consumer recycled waste added) approved by the Forestry Stewardship Council. Leicester City Chief Executive Tim Davies said: "We are delighted to have agreed a new environmentally friendly option for our matchday programme and to be using Polar Print's services once again. "As a responsible community business it is important for us that the environment is taken into consideration. "We've got to make use of football as a role model for environmental change." Polar Print Managing Director, David Gask added: "As an extremely loyal supplier to Leicester City for almost two decades, we are pleased that the club have opted to adopt the full environment print and paper option with ourselves. "The game holds a powerful influence over children and adults around the world and we firmly believe that the matchday programme is a very good vehicle to help communicate the link between sport and the environment to the thousands of fans who read the quality product." Elsewhere, to make the Walkers Stadium more environmentally-friendly the club has already reduced its landfill, cut down on the use of packaging - inward and outward and recycles a range of items including paper, card, glass, grass cuttings and some waste foods. Well Done Polar Print And LCFC!!! Working in the Print Industry myself, i know alot can be done environmentally as an offset to the paper used to print. Good stuff! Also,LCFC use lights which switch off when not in use,they use containers for rainfall water collection,recycle paper and i will get more news on what they do environmentally shortly. When i do,i will post it in this thread(IF i can find it!)
Daggers Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 Screw the environment - give me a team to win promotion and stay in the top flight
Raj Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 Screw the environment - give me a team to win promotion and stay in the top flight Why not have it all Daggers??? A team to win promotion and stay in the top flight AND save the environment...everyones a winner baby!!!!
Fox in a Box Posted 7 August 2007 Author Posted 7 August 2007 Surely in this day and age of Carbon footprinting you'd think that the way forward for and new stadia would be to include where possible renewable energies and reduction in lighting/ electricity where possible.Has LCFC got a Green policy, if not why should'nt we be the first.... I can think of 2 ways of creating 'lecky' one being a water mill from the rive adjoining the stadia and the other being a turbine!! Global warming is linked to the amount of carbon and other greenhouse gases being emitted into the atmosphere. As individuals, almost everything we do leads to the release of carbon into the atmosphere whether that's boiling a kettle, turning your heating up in the winter or taking a Caribbean holiday. The amount of carbon you personally produce in a year can be determined using our carbon calculator. This measure of consumed natural resources is known as your carbon footprint. Your carbon footprint gives an indication of your impact on the environment, which is caused by the burning of fossil fuels such as oil and gas. It is measured in tonnes of carbon dioxide emitted per year. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and as such increases global warming. If everyone made small changes to their life style - like not leaving the television on standby - then this would make a big difference in reducing our global carbon footprint. I mentioned about them going green a month ago.... Has LCFC got a Green policy, if not why should'nt we be the first... well at least its a start ahead of others http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Lates...1086665,00.html
Daggers Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 Why not have it all Daggers? It's that kind of attitude that landed me in a right mealtime pickle and months now facing a gruelling training program
Stuliasz Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 I want to hear more from a-fox on this emotional and hard-hitting debate.
Daggers Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 I want to hear more from a-fox on this emotional and hard-hitting debate. That's another phrase you don't tend to hear a lot of. Congratulations on your inclusive stance towards idea-interfacing
Raj Posted 7 August 2007 Posted 7 August 2007 I mentioned about them going green a month ago....Has LCFC got a Green policy, if not why should'nt we be the first... well at least its a start ahead of others http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Lates...1086665,00.html Well Done for putting it to peoples attention! It's that kind of attitude that landed me in a right mealtime pickle and months now facing a gruelling training program Remember- NO PAIN-NO GAIN!!!!
Raj Posted 6 September 2007 Posted 6 September 2007 http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Lates...1106843,00.html Another positive
Karlos Posted 6 September 2007 Posted 6 September 2007 I think we should concentrate on promotion first...
Raj Posted 6 September 2007 Posted 6 September 2007 I think we should concentrate on promotion first... Too right! Fcuk Planet Earth...lets just get promotion!
demon_dog Posted 6 September 2007 Posted 6 September 2007 Thought they went green last season, stopping me having a smoke in the stadium! By the way, Methane is a far more dangerous greenhouse gas. So maybe we should all stop F*rting.
Raj Posted 7 September 2007 Posted 7 September 2007 Thought they went green last season, stopping me having a smoke in the stadium!By the way, Methane is a far more dangerous greenhouse gas. So maybe we should all stop F*rting. maybe some of us CAN"T stop farting!...pppppfffftttt....There..take that and party!
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