Team for Charlton

[Fez of Mahrez]

Fulop

N'Gotty Kisnorbo McAuley

Kaebi Kishishev Clemence Sheehan

Hume

Fryatt De Vries

I like that a lot.

[Joe.]

I have a feeling Fryatt might start ahead of DJ on Saturday...

[Jimmy]

---------------------Fulop---------------------

N'Gotty-----Kisnorbo----McAuley--Mattock

Hume-Chambers/Kish-Clemence-Sheehan

-----------------Fryatt-MdV------------------

Subs

Henderson, Stearman, Cambers/Kish, DJ, Ferreria

thats what i think it'll be

[Lillehamring]

that is almost farcically attacking - we're talking about:

a. this is leicester city

b. under gary megson

c. away

d. against a recent premership team....

defensive porridge is very much on the agenda, i fear....

[TheBlinding]

Fulop

Chambers McAuley Kisnorbo Sheehan

Kaabi Kishishev Clemence Hume

Campbell De Vries

Subs: Henderson, N'gotty, Ferriera, Fryatt, Porter

[lookwhaticando]

defensive porridge

:D :D

:thumbsup:

[Lillehamring]

:D :D

:thumbsup:

heh, yeah,it's the only thing you haven't â„¢'d....

[coale39]

Fulop

N'Gotty Kisnorbo McAuley

Kaebi Kishishev Clemence Sheehan

Hume

Fryatt De Vries

Swap McCaley for Stearman (pace) and its a deal.

[Geo V]

We`ll get...

FULOP

N`GOTTY - McAULEY - KISNORBO - MATTOCK

HUME - CLEM - KISH - SHEEHAN

MDV - DJ

Would prefer...

FULOP

CHAMBERS - McAULEY - KISNORBO - MATTOCK (or Sheehan)

KAEBI - CLEM - KISH - FERRIERA

DJ - HUME

[Jimmy]

Would prefer...

FULOP

CHAMBERS - McAULEY - KISNORBO - MATTOCK (or Sheehan)

KAEBI - CLEM - KISH - FERRIERA

DJ - HUME

haven't you realised that we play bollocks with 2 small strikers upfront?

[Geo V]

haven't you realised that we play bollocks with 2 small strikers upfront?

I havent seen the evidence of that this season to be honest. Hume came on for MDV against Palace and the game changed and we "won" the second half 2-1. In the rest of the games MDV and Cort and a bit of Fryatt have featured so I don't think you can say that two small strikers have failed this season.

BTW the team I picked include "footballers" who can run and link up with the strikers so we would play the ball on the deck to there strengths.

[Jimmy]

I havent seen the evidence of that this season to be honest. Hume came on for MDV against Palace and the game changed and we "won" the second half 2-1. In the rest of the games MDV and Cort and a bit of Fryatt have featured so I don't think you can say that two small strikers have failed this season.

BTW the team I picked include "footballers" who can run and link up with the strikers so we would play the ball on the deck to there strengths.

and yet the 1st game against forest and ALL of the last 2 years have proved 2 short strikers doesn't work

[demon_dog]

I have assumed that Wesolowski won't be fit.

Fulop;

Chambers, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Mattock;

Kaebi, King, Clemence, Sheehan;

Fryatt, DeVries.

Subs: Henderson, Stearman, Porter, Hume, Campbell.

Difficult away game.

I've retained the two big strong centre-backs rather than introducing Stearman because, with DeVries, they might snatch a goal from set pieces.

Chambers and Kaebi would give us passing pace on the right and, although tempted to play Hume/Fryatt up front I really feel we'll need a big man to hold the ball and to perhaps benefit from sheehan's crosses. DeVries remains preferable to Cort in that role.

King would have freedom to play in the hole behind Hume and DeVries with Sheehan covering and providing supplementary attacking back-up.

King's presence will give us good passing and scoring potential in midfield with the result that we really would have enough attacking potential to win the match. He is also a perfectly capable defender when required and not the sort to panic coming out from the back.

Fryatt is included in preference to Hume and Campbell because his runs seem to suit King, because he's probably our second best forward aerially and because I rather fancy a MON type option of launching McAuley, Kisnorbo, DeVries, King and Fryatt into the box at set plays.

A rest on the bench won't do Hume any harm. Porter could be a replacement in central or wide midfield with Stearman to come on at centre-back, full-back or defensive midfield.

Interesting team. Can't see it happening though.

Personally I'd play DJ in place of MDV.

Good team though.

[weggy1976]

Interesting team. Can't see it happening though.

Personally I'd play DJ in place of MDV.

Good team though.

NO HUME !!!!

[Thracian]

NO HUME !!!!

Normally Hume would be a first thought because, apart from his goalscoring ability, he's one of the few players we have with genuine pace.

In my team Kaebi provides the pace. Hume gets the chance of a rest by sitting on the bench and Fryatt comes in as an in-form specialist striker. With King adding further goalscoring ability, including the potential to score with a header, I think the team has enough elements to win the game.

It also gives the opposition different problems to solve from those they might have seen on video. It utilises the squad more fully and this is important where there are so many players of roughly the same sort of standard, as with our strikers.

The alternative, with a big squad, is to have increasingly disgruntled players and this doesn't foster good team spirit.

[Geo V]

and yet the 1st game against forest and ALL of the last 2 years have proved 2 short strikers doesn't work

How can you base 45 mins against Florist and the last 2 years in which we have had a totally different side with it failing this year? Don`t get me wrong, I'm not saying it would definitely work but I think that if we play the players like Ferriera and Kaebi down the wings and Chambers at RB along with the two smaller strikers, we would be intelligent and quick enough to pass our way through instead of lumping the ball forward for a target man to try and flick the ball to. Playing two smaller strikers wont work unless we play more football on the deck but its just about playing to our players strengths.

I`d like to see that team I suggested yesterday for a couple of games to see if it can work. Also I don't see the point of getting Ferreira and Kaebi in and then sign DJ, offer Hume a new contract and not at least try to play them all in the same side.

[Jimmy]

because we just get bullied by the oppsing central defenders and our defence never get the breather they need instead the ball just comes straight back at us, FFS man open your eyes almost all the top teams in the country have atleast 1 big physical forward as 2 small DOESN'T work

[Geo V]

because we just get bullied by the oppsing central defenders and our defence never get the breather they need instead the ball just comes straight back at us, FFS man open your eyes almost all the top teams in the country have atleast 1 big physical forward as 2 small DOESN'T work

As I said you you before, I'm not saying it will definitely work and it may be a system that goes tats up within a couple of games but having a target man who isn't particular great in the air and aiming it forwards and having huge gaps between midfield and attack due to the longer pass isnt exactly working either! In MDV`s defense he has done OK it some games but unless we sign a more proven target man who can score goals as well as hold the ball up, two "small" men may well work with pacier wide players.

You are making it quite a black and white argument anyway which is a bit mindless. If you look at the way that we play we are at times worried about the pace of our defenders when Chambers doesn't play and you see the back 4 playing deeper than they should be because of the fear of getting caught out by pace. Because tehy are so deep some midfielders drop deep to close the gap between defence and midfield and when they decide to go long, we have so many gaps in teh middle of the pitch that we hardly ever seem to get the second ball, mainly because we haven't got that many players up there and we are too deep. Why is it that despite us having the lions share of chances in games this season, we seem to at times by out played by average teams from the middle? I don't think that Forest, Plymouth or Blackpool have better players than us, just that we aren't set-up correctly as a team. Ive said it elsewhere on these boards but we have a striker playing RM, a CB playing RB, a left-side that is both inexperienced and disjointed because we don't know if either Mattock or Sheehan will have successful careers at LB or LM and a defence that is very good at doing old school defending from there peno box but not confident enough to defend further up the pitch.

BTW I also dont think we can play Hume, MDV and DJ in away games especially as we dont seem to have any shape at all.

[Thracian]

because we just get bullied by the oppsing central defenders and our defence never get the breather they need instead the ball just comes straight back at us, FFS man open your eyes almost all the top teams in the country have atleast 1 big physical forward as 2 small DOESN'T work

I tend to agree - and for lots of reasons.

[Eastern Fox]

------------------Nielsen

--- Kenton --- Kishishev --- Maybury

Newton --- Hellings --- Porter --- Hayes

--- Hammond --- Cort --- Sappleton

That's a joke, right?

[Geo V]

I tend to agree - and for lots of reasons.

But you`d have Dodds up front, Gradel on the wing and Levi in central midfield to add height to the team??

[Thracian]

But you`d have Dodds up front, Gradel on the wing and Levi in central midfield to add height to the team??

When did I ever say that? I'd have had Dodds on the bench, except when Horsfield was the only alternative or when Fryatt was injured/consistently not scoring, Gradel on the bench except when Yeates/Hughes/Sylla were being selected or when Newton started underperforming this season and Levi "in the hole" of a 4-3-3 with one big striker.

And now King is showing his best form I'd even prefer him to Levi in that role because of his heading ability so Porter would either be left wing or on the bench depending on whether Sheehan played left-back or left half.

Broadly I think we need two runners off the big striker if possible and because, at present we have no-one surging forward from midfield I'd play King as one of those two. Porter, if not on the wing, could serve as an alternative on the bench because he simply isn't getting creating enough danger from the wing right now.

It is not entirely his fault, we have so few headers of the ball in our team from anything but set plays and he's pobably under instructions to keep making the width. But either way we need him to be ask more questions of defenders.

[Simon]

I don't care what Pablo, it's time we saw Kaebi and Ferreira play.

Fulop

Chambers

Bruno

Kisnorbo

Sheehan

Kaebi

Clemence

Kishishev

Ferreira

Fryatt

Hume

Subs: Hendo, MDV, DJ, McAuley, Stearman

[Thracian]

That's a joke, right?

Shop window?

[Geo V]

When did I ever say that? I'd have had Dodds on the bench, except when Horsfield was the only alternative or when Fryatt was injured/consistently not scoring, Gradel on the bench except when Yeates/Hughes/Sylla were being selected or when Newton started underperforming this season and Levi "in the hole" of a 4-3-3 with one big striker.

And now King is showing his best form I'd even prefer him to Levi in that role because of his heading ability so Porter would either be left wing or on the bench depending on whether Sheehan played left-back or left half.

Broadly I think we need two runners off the big striker if possible and because, at present we have no-one surging forward from midfield I'd play King as one of those two. Porter, if not on the wing, could serve as an alternative on the bench because he simply isn't getting creating enough danger from the wing right now.

It is not entirely his fault, we have so few headers of the ball in our team from anything but set plays and he's pobably under instructions to keep making the width. But either way we need him to be ask more questions of defenders.

Last season you`d have played Dodds for Fryatt, this season you moaned that Gradel wasnt getting a game and would have preffered him at RM and now King should play ahead of Kish and others in central midfield, but only in a balanced side that includes Sheehan at left-back and Levi on the wing (or bench). Mmmmmm that sounds tasty.