Chandler Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference. The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN!
filbertway Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference.The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN! 79153[/snapback] I never knew you felt that way.
MADLEVEIN Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference.The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN! 79153[/snapback] WALSH ??? you must be having a laugh, walsh as a player for this club was amazing and i probably witnessed 90% of his time here, and will always be an all time favourite of mine. but as a manager, dont kid yourself. levein is a shrewd manager who has been bought in by this club to balance the books and to try and do his best, something he hasnt really had chance to do. look at burley at derby he has turned them around, but two seasons ago the shaggers were calling for his head and they were facing div three in the face. the o'neil sheff utd game should be a shining example of not jumping the gun too early. WALSH...
kerryh Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 On the plus side though we'll have the best stadium in League One.
Babylon Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference.The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN! 79153[/snapback] Someone ban this annoying chump... Walsh? Sums you up really.
Ikon_Klow Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 What a load of rubbish. I admit I am worried but Levein is the man to do it. He inherited Adams mess abd he has already began to build a team for the future, not one for a season. Walsh! Good player, no brain, no financial sense and slightly dodgy in business I hear.
fosseman Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Walsh is a non-starter but we do need a dynamic younger leader on the field. The team is colourless and lacking in passion. It will be a long way back if we go down and if we don't, it will still take 2 or 3 years to get back to the Premiership. javascript:emoticon(':mad:') smilie
Katy Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference.The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN! 79153[/snapback] So Chandler, if Levein manages to drag us away from the perils of the Championship trap door, builds a decent team of his own making over the summer and gets us promoted to the Premiership next season, will you change your opinion on him and admit you were wrong to slate him so early before giving him a chance? Not having a pop here just a question I would like you to answer please.
Simon Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Some of you (at last) are waking up to the fact that we are in a relegation struggle. And the more enlightened amongst you are beginning to realise that this is a crisis largely of Levein's own making. Or, to put it more accurately, of his indifference.The only reason why we didn't lose tonight was that we went in at the break 0-2 down. I consoled myself with my half time Bovril that in the old days a 2-0 lead was called the most deceptive lead in football. We could only go and attack in the second half. Watford could only...dither. And so it proved. The players responded instinctively. Nothing to do with Levein. We want nothing to do with Levein. This man is showing us that he can do the impossible. From a perfectly respectable mid table position in a congested table he has taken us, almost imperceptibly, down and down into a log jammed drop zone. Rest assured, he'll navigate us through the rapids right over the ****in' waterfall into Division One. IF HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE FANS. I am beginning to hear the first sighs of repentence over the treatment of Micky Adams. You'll only get absolution when you repeat the following a hundred times: 'Levein OUT! Walsh IN! 79153[/snapback] I've given up bothering coming up with thoughtful replies to idiotic posts like these.
FNQ Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Well said Chandler (except for the Walsh bit ofcourse). Levein didn't inherit Adam's 'mess', he inherited one of the promotion favourites in the TOP HALF of the league.
Chimp Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 [..] Levein didn't inherit Adam's 'mess', he inherited one of the promotion favourites in the TOP HALF of the league. 79173[/snapback] The only people who thought we were promotion contenders were the bookies prior to the start of the season. Anyone who saw the team on the pitch during the first few games should have quickly realised that the most we could of ever hoped for was mid-table obscurity. Something which seems to have been overlooked by everyone in this Adams vs Levein argument is that we lost 12 first team regulars/contenders at the end of last season. The squad was decimated and we started the season with a first team that had only had a few weeks to play together. Surely it's common sense to realise that good teams develop over time, you can't put 11 new players on a pitch (no matter their pedigree or promise) and expect them to gel. It's only now, some 7-8 months into the season that we're starting to see the team play as a team. We didn't see any of this during the start of the season while MA was manager - this wasn't MA's fault or the players fault particulary, it was just a natural occurence which we should have all expected to happen. After CL took charge we started to see glimpses of good play, over the last 3-4 months we've seen this glimpses turn into extended periods where City have totally dominated large portions of the game. Again, we need to ask if this is due to CL or is it something that would have naturally occured anyway? Personally, I don't think it would have mattered who we had as manager this season, it would have turned out pretty much the same regardless. I do prefer CL to MA as I think he's a better strategist and has the right ideas for the future. I'd never speak bad of MA as he took the club through a torrid time and gave us one of the best seasons in modern times, that said, I'll always be dissapointed in him that he did a runner when he started to receive a lot of personal criticism. I'd have thought he was stronger than that and would have stuck it out. No matter, there's no point looking to the past. We have a team that we all know shows real promise and a manager that seems to be taking us in the right direction on and off the pitch. All we need to do is hold tight for this season and resist the temptation to panic. Maybe next season we could push for the play-off's and after that, well, who knows - at least we can all see the club has a bright future with the current set-up.
Simon Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 [..] Levein didn't inherit Adam's 'mess', he inherited one of the promotion favourites in the TOP HALF of the league. 79173[/snapback] The only people who thought we were promotion contenders were the bookies prior to the start of the season. Anyone who saw the team on the pitch during the first few games should have quickly realised that the most we could of ever hoped for was mid-table obscurity. Something which seems to have been overlooked by everyone in this Adams vs Levein argument is that we lost 12 first team regulars/contenders at the end of last season. The squad was decimated and we started the season with a first team that had only had a few weeks to play together. Surely it's common sense to realise that good teams develop over time, you can't put 11 new players on a pitch (no matter their pedigree or promise) and expect them to gel. It's only now, some 7-8 months into the season that we're starting to see the team play as a team. We didn't see any of this during the start of the season while MA was manager - this wasn't MA's fault or the players fault particulary, it was just a natural occurence which we should have all expected to happen. After CL took charge we started to see glimpses of good play, over the last 3-4 months we've seen this glimpses turn into extended periods where City have totally dominated large portions of the game. Again, we need to ask if this is due to CL or is it something that would have naturally occured anyway? Personally, I don't think it would have mattered who we had as manager this season, it would have turned out pretty much the same regardless. That said, I do prefer CL to MA. I think he's a better strategist and has the right ideas for the future. I'd never speak bad of MA as he took the club through a torrid time and gave us one of the best seasons in modern times, that said, I'll always be dissapointed in him that he did a runner when he started to receive a lot of personal criticism. I'd have thought he was stronger than that and would have stuck it out. No matter, there's no point looking to the past. We have a team that we all know shows real promise and a manager that seems to be taking us in the right direction on and off the pitch. All we need to do is hold tight for this season and resist the temptation to panic. Maybe next season we could push for the play-off's and after that, well, who knows - at least we can all see the club has a bright future with the current set-up. 79182[/snapback] Couldnt have put it better myself...
Frenzied Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Walsh as manager is an utter joke. He wasn't even that good a player and is as thick as pig sh*t. Adams had lost it this season - simple. He'd lost the confidence of the players and fans, as well as making some shocking decisions both on and off the field. Levein inherited a team that was coming apart at the seams, he's removed most of the deadwood and got in some very good young players that can only improve. There is no chance we would have been promoted this season and that's a good thing because we'd have only been relegated next season. Don't forget we're still feeling the effects of administration and the diabolical reign of Peter Taylor. Under Levein we have fresh start and a real chance of building something solid for the future.
SilverFox Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 F-U-C-K OFF Chandler you TWAT! Why don't you get behind the team instead of attacking and trying to pull it to pieces. Yes there are problems but what does your criticism achieve. The same criticism was once levvied at O'Neill, and he never ever forgot! Grow up, and support something for once in your life you miserable ****ING ****!
Guest Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 There you go Chandler, is that the reaction you wanted?
Guest Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Unfortunately its the one he's getting! 79218[/snapback] I wouldn't rise to it, personally!
SilverFox Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Then I applaud you because you are a better person than me.
Guest Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Then I applaud you because you are a better person than me. 79222[/snapback] Not really, I can't be arsenaled to tell the truth!!
Katy Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Then I applaud you because you are a better person than me. 79222[/snapback] I love rising to it, its water off a ducks back to me but I would like him to answer the question I asked him previously.
SilverFox Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Me neither, thats why it was a paragraph and a bit of pure verbal abuse rather than the missing chapter to War and Peace. He's a **** but no one will ban him (despite the manner in which he verbally abuses everyone...yes I'm aware of the irony), perhaps because hes valued for his village idiot appeal. Sometimes this forum is a circus, by which I mean freakshow acts like Chandler are allowed to perform on a daily basis!
Guest Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Then I applaud you because you are a better person than me. 79222[/snapback] I love rising to it, its water off a ducks back to me but I would like him to answer the question I asked him previously. 79229[/snapback] He hasn't answered some of my questions from a while back, so I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you.
Katy Posted 16 March 2005 Posted 16 March 2005 Then I applaud you because you are a better person than me. 79222[/snapback] I love rising to it, its water off a ducks back to me but I would like him to answer the question I asked him previously. 79229[/snapback] He hasn't answered some of my questions from a while back, so I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you. 79234[/snapback] No im not Lisa but I am looking forward to be called a 'silly bitch' while im waiting though.
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