act smiley Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Rotherham's problems at the minute are more that their previous spell in admin didn't solve much because the points deduction played a large part in their going down last season, which has obviously caused problems with their income for this season.
Daggers Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 They need the money to be sucsessfull though. No money means even worse players than those around and that usually equals relegation and more money difficulties.Thats why its the FA and PL's fault. I know in some cases ala Luton you have a cu nt in charge, but thats not the point here. But as soon as you have the controlling bodies bailing out failing clubs how do you differentiate from the avaricious excesses of ignorant owners? It's a given that the 10 point deduction is one of the stupidest regulations imposed on the game in recent times - but surely it has to be demanded of clubs that they act within their means? And if they don't then they have to face the fate that other businesses and individuals in society do - just because they are a club it doesn't grant them immunity from the repercussions. More money should trickle down, but if it did so you just know it would be wasted...these ****ers can't spend the money they already have wisely so throwing more at them is a recipe for disaster...more money on players salaries and more money to agents. Football needs a kick up the arse and a club going out of business in the top four flights would do that. It isn't the fault of the FL or the PL - it's the fault of every club, it's the fault of every Chairman that has voted in favour of the current situation...and it's the fault of every lackadaisical fan who sits on his/her arse and never does anything pro-active. Woohoo...let's have a revolution!
Matt Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Rotherham's problems at the minute are more that their previous spell in admin didn't solve much because the points deduction played a large part in their going down last season, which has obviously caused problems with their income for this season. Exactly and that is another thing to point blame at the F.A/PL/Football League, How on earth does going into administration (A Business and financial decision) affect what goes on on the football field (If anything it could be a disadvantage in such that the players have their minds on 'Will I still have a job and be paid next month')? How is it and advantage? Therefore how does that deserve a point deduction/penalty? Which could in effect lead to relegation which then leads to further money problems? The original problem may be down to poor budgeting by the board but at the end of the day my question is and argument on this subject, is there any need for a penalty/point deduction on footballing terms, Maybe perhaps a transfer embargo i'll agree with and that is a disadvantage and penalty on the footballing side I suppose but it wouldn't have such a dramatic play on something as important as say relegation via a point deduction. However as I keep saying apparently every club in the F.L barr us voted for a point deduction so what goes around comes around.
Floating Fox Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Daggers, I do agree to an extent. But the chairmen are only, in a sense, trying to keep up with everyone else. If the money was spread throughout, or infact there was not richmen-owners, then I believe that the game would be in a hell of a better state.
Daggers Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Daggers, I do agree to an extent. But the chairmen are only, in a sense, trying to keep up with everyone else. If the money was spread throughout, or infact there was not richmen-owners, then I believe that the game would be in a hell of a better state. I can recommend a number of novels on the subject of Utopia, if you want SUAS? It is never going to happen - turkey's don't vote for Christmas, ManCheLiverArse will never be volunteering their profits to the likes of us or Darlington. I swear, the solution is one that demands X amount of home grown talent in the squad and the Saturday team coupled with a salary cap in the style of American baseball teams.
Floating Fox Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 I can recommend a number of novels on the subject of Utopia, if you want SUAS? It is never going to happen - turkey's don't vote for Christmas, ManCheLiverArse will never be volunteering their profits to the likes of us or Darlington. I swear, the solution is one that demands X amount of home grown talent in the squad and the Saturday team coupled with a salary cap in the style of American baseball teams. Your not far off. Salary caps, and at a sensible level, would solve a fair few problems, but cannae see that happening either.
Daggers Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Your not far off. Salary caps, and at a sensible level, would solve a fair few problems, but cannae see that happening either. I'm beginning to buy into Tom's fascism Woohoo! Sweet new boots, trains running on time and fairness in the football league. I'm struggling to find reasons not to go extreeeeme right-wing now I've though about it.
Kilworthfox Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 I'm beginning to buy into Tom's fascism Woohoo! Sweet new boots, trains running on time and fairness in the football league. I'm struggling to find reasons not to go extreeeeme right-wing now I've though about it. Mythology! 1 train ran on time. However Facism is the way forward, I declare that every LCFC supporter gets off their arse and gets behind the team on Satdi! That should show em in Westminster
Nationwider Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better I agree. There is no reason why any League club can't run at a (small) profit year-on-year if they manage their on-field budget sensibly and look to supplement their income with some non-footballing activities (corporate events, private functions etc). A small number of clubs do manage this - without a rich benefactor. The majority of clubs are run by people with little common sense or business acumen.
Daggers Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 I agree. There is no reason why any League club can't run at a (small) profit year-on-year if they manage their on-field budget sensibly and look to supplement their income with some non-footballing activities (corporate events, private functions etc). A small number of clubs do manage this - without a rich benefactor. The majority of clubs are run by people with little common sense or business acumen. There goeth the Taxman
Daggers Posted 22 March 2008 Posted 22 March 2008 There's a lot of hypocrisy in this thread. Where's the hypocrisy? I'm still waiting for your explanation Ultra... <Ultra> </Ultra>
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