FleckneyFox Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 So many teams going into administration this year 4 teams now that i can think of and a few more that have came close/are close. Something more needs to be done by the FA or the Football league.
davieG Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 So many teams going into administration this year 4 teams now that i can think of and a few more that have came close/are close. Something more needs to be done by the FA or the Football league. Premier League as well!
milkybarkid Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Rotherham United have entered administration for the second time in 18 months. BBC Radio Sheffield understands the club have been denied another extension to their notice of intent to go into administration by the courts. The club have appointed Excel Business Solutions as their administrator. It means the Millers will be hit with a 10-point penalty, moving them from seventh to 11th, six points off the play-offs with just eight games to go. As a result Chesterfield have moved up into the last play-off place. The club had already extended their notice of intent once and had been hopeful they would be given a further 10 days at a hearing at Leeds County Court on Tuesday. Chairman Dennis Coleman met with a potential investor on Monday, but there is no news yet as to the progress of that. The Millers cited falling attendances, plus a smaller than expected insurance claim for summer flood damage, as two of the reasons as to why they owe hundreds of thousands of pounds to the Inland Revenue. The club went in administration two summers ago and took a 10-point penalty then, which eventually cost them their League One status. With investment difficult to come by it seems the future of the club is very much in the air. Coleman does not have the money to bankroll the football club and despite spending much of the last month in negotiations to try and bring in further investment, he is yet to find a backer.
Daggers Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Not one person holds a gun to a Chairman's head and says "Overspend or die!" (Let's gloss over QPR's recent Cosa Nostra wannabies)
Joe. Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 It's a bad state of affairs when you have so many teams going into administration in one season whilst the big clubs increasingly continue to roll in the money.
lildave3 Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Good god, don't think i've ever seen a team go into Admin twice before.
Darkzzz_ Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Don't the chuckle brothers support Rotheram!!! Why cant they help!!! Or is is a case of "from me, to you"
Head Honcho Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Didn't they appeal to all clubs a few years ago-I seem to remember the bucket going round for them
purpleronnie Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 This is weird 3 teams I predicted for promotion have gone into administration, I'm beginning to think I'm a curse.
Floating Fox Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Backlash of Premier League footballs greedyness.
DB11 Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better
Nath Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better Shut up. You really have no idea, do you!?
Daggers Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Shut up.You really have no idea, do you!? I'm in total agreement with him. I feel sorry for fans facing the prospect of not having a club to support but, when all is said and done, they will have been complicit in the actions taken. I don't see anyone barracking Mandaric for his spending even though we can reasonably assume that it is all based on loans. There is no way that this would be met by matchday revenue if we fail to go up and he left us - and so who would be to blame in this situation? The FA? The Premiership? I don't think so. You can moan about money not trickling down - but that is not the issue, it is all about clubs running themselves in a prudent manner. Sooner rather than later clubs are going to start going to the wall - there simply isn't the money to pay for the dumb**** inflated salaries for below-average players that proliferate the Football League. Greed drives this on. Each Chairman desperate to get his trotters and snout in the Premiership trough. And the fans aren't exactly trying to stop them.
Floating Fox Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 I'm in total agreement with him.I feel sorry for fans facing the prospect of not having a club to support but, when all is said and done, they will have been complicit in the actions taken. I don't see anyone barracking Mandaric for his spending even though we can reasonably assume that it is all based on loans. There is no way that this would be met by matchday revenue if we fail to go up and he left us - and so who would be to blame in this situation? The FA? The Premiership? I don't think so. You can moan about money not trickling down - but that is not the issue, it is all about clubs running themselves in a prudent manner. Sooner rather than later clubs are going to start going to the wall - there simply isn't the money to pay for the dumb**** inflated salaries for below-average players that proliferate the Football League. Greed drives this on. Each Chairman desperate to get his trotters and snout in the Premiership trough. And the fans aren't exactly trying to stop them. The thing is, every chairmen wants to be in the prem because it's so lucrative which means that players can demand more and clubs from the prem teams can demand more for their reserves/wasters. It is greed, but it's the premierships fault & the F.A fault for not making alternative arrangements (There is the the Parachute payment, but thats just 3 clubs a season) such as Salary Caps.
The Stig Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better Not always possible. I hope Rotherham get through it, same goes for Gretna.
Matt Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better That is a pathetic comment. However, I don't like to see any (Well apart from the odd exception) club go into administration BUT so I read (and i've said this before) apparently we were the only club in the whole of the football league to vote against a point deduction, whether this is true or not I don't know (I do find it quite hard to believe tbh) but I can only go on what i've read in the past, IF that is true - What goes around comes around.
James. Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Nothing needs to be done by the FA. These clubs should manage their finances better You may all slate the above comment but for me it's very close to the truth. Football clubs are businesses. No amount of sentimentality can disguise that. No one is denying it's sad to see clubs fall into administration but it's an unavoidable consequence of a lack of prudent financial management. This isn't the public sector.
DB11 Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 Shut up.You really have no idea, do you!? No. You are telling me to shut up because it is me posting this. If Daggers or JTB had posted this first before I did then you would not have slated either of them at all. Stop just following the group of people that like having a go at me and read the actual post, not the post author! Not always possible. I hope Rotherham get through it, same goes for Gretna. I hope they get through it as well, but looking to try to blame someone else eg. The FA is stupid. These clubs have been irresponsible and they are facing the consequences. Hopefully clubs will see this and start to look after their finances better and not give into the greed that players have. That is a pathetic comment. However, I don't like to see any (Well apart from the odd exception) club go into administration BUT so I read (and i've said this before) apparently we were the only club in the whole of the football league to vote against a point deduction, whether this is true or not I don't know (I do find it quite hard to believe tbh) but I can only go on what i've read in the past, IF that is true - What goes around comes around. Read my first response.
The Stig Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 I hope they get through it as well, but looking to try to blame someone else eg. The FA is stupid. These clubs have been irresponsible and they are facing the consequences. Hopefully clubs will see this and start to look after their finances better and not give into the greed that players have. As I said, it's not always their fault. Take Gretna for example. They were fine until their chairman became seriously ill. They also have a lack of fans as just a few years ago they were in the theird teir. They therefore have considerably less money coming in week by week than other clubs.
Thracian Posted 18 March 2008 Posted 18 March 2008 I'm in total agreement with him.I feel sorry for fans facing the prospect of not having a club to support but, when all is said and done, they will have been complicit in the actions taken. I don't see anyone barracking Mandaric for his spending even though we can reasonably assume that it is all based on loans. There is no way that this would be met by matchday revenue if we fail to go up and he left us - and so who would be to blame in this situation? The FA? The Premiership? I don't think so. You can moan about money not trickling down - but that is not the issue, it is all about clubs running themselves in a prudent manner. Sooner rather than later clubs are going to start going to the wall - there simply isn't the money to pay for the dumb**** inflated salaries for below-average players that proliferate the Football League. Greed drives this on. Each Chairman desperate to get his trotters and snout in the Premiership trough. And the fans aren't exactly trying to stop them. I've been very concerned about the money MM has spent and, in many cases wasted. There might even have been some more had Holloway lost on Saturday.
accessory Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 There's a lot of hypocrisy in this thread. How many people on here were slating the previous City board for refusing to spend money? Wasn't that part of the reason we ended up with Mandaric in charge?
Daggers Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 There's a lot of hypocrisy in this thread.How many people on here were slating the previous City board for refusing to spend money? Wasn't that part of the reason we ended up with Mandaric in charge? Where's the hypocrisy? I pointed out that we are all complicit in situations where clubs go into Admin...and more so a second time! We willingly support the decisions that lead to that end. Did you note the bit where I said "We"? My point is about me not caring for the loss of a club should it go under - It will disappoint me but it is a fact of the modern game and will become increasingly more so. The reason Mandaric came has jack shit to do with the previous City board refusing to spend money and piss all to do with members of Foxestalk slating them for not doing so. Do you really need the reasons explained to you?
DB11 Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 As I said, it's not always their fault. Take Gretna for example. They were fine until their chairman became seriously ill. They also have a lack of fans as just a few years ago they were in the theird teir. They therefore have considerably less money coming in week by week than other clubs. Exactly! Because of this they should therefore be spending considerably less money and not moaning when it goes all wrong.
Floating Fox Posted 19 March 2008 Posted 19 March 2008 Exactly! Because of this they should therefore be spending considerably less money and not moaning when it goes all wrong. They need the money to be sucsessfull though. No money means even worse players than those around and that usually equals relegation and more money difficulties. Thats why its the FA and PL's fault. I know in some cases ala Luton you have a cu nt in charge, but thats not the point here.
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