If anyone from the club reads this forum .....

[will_lcfc]

.... PLEASE don't insult us any more by posting the usual b0ll0cks on the OS saying things like "We really need the Blue Army to turn out and support the lads. We all need to stick together" !

Well, I think today proves that it makes f**k all difference how many of us turn out. The biggest gate of the season (and yeah, I know there were cheap tickets on offer so that was a big reason why), but the players still can't put in consistent performances.

As someone pointed out on another thread, the players were even too embarassed to clap the fans today ....... something they should do regardless of how shite they play, and expect a backlash if the fans see fit ! Apart from a couple of players, the team should be ashamed of themselves today - it was a disgrace.

All this crap they churning out about sticking together and we all have a part to play - I'm sorry, but the fans have kept their half of that bargain all season. It's a shame the players don't appear to think they should do it for 90 f**king minutes, let alone a full season.

The fans pay their hard earned money and deserve respect (in the form of performances) from the players, and don't deserve to be served up that shite week in, week out.

So, please, no more shite on the OS ....... you know full well you'll 20k+ there against S****horpe, but don't tell us any more that it makes a difference to lads. The fans will be there to support the club they love ..... if the players want to be a part of the club, great, but start f**king showing it !!!!

[davieG]

.... PLEASE don't insult us any more by posting the usual b0ll0cks on the OS saying things like "We really need the Blue Army to turn out and support the lads. We all need to stick together" !

Well, I think today proves that it makes f**k all difference how many of us turn out. The biggest gate of the season (and yeah, I know there were cheap tickets on offer so that was a big reason why), but the players still can't put in consistent performances.

As someone pointed out on another thread, the players were even too embarassed to clap the fans today ....... something they should do regardless of how shite they play, and expect a backlash if the fans see fit ! Apart from a couple of players, the team should be ashamed of themselves today - it was a disgrace.

All this crap they churning out about sticking together and we all have a part to play - I'm sorry, but the fans have kept their half of that bargain all season. It's a shame the players don't appear to think they should do it for 90 f**king minutes, let alone a full season.

The fans pay their hard earned money and deserve respect (in the form of performances) from the players, and don't deserve to be served up that shite week in, week out.

So, please, no more shite on the OS ....... you know full well you'll 20k+ there against S****horpe, but don't tell us any more that it makes a difference to lads. The fans will be there to support the club they love ..... if the players want to be a part of the club, great, but start f**king showing it !!!!

Too Late

[will_lcfc]

Too Late

Hey - it was only a matter of time before they did it.

[Mack]

If anything, the players wilted in the spotlight.

Mind you Preston was a fairly low crowd and they were even worse that night!

[clazkel]

.... PLEASE don't insult us any more by posting the usual b0ll0cks on the OS saying things like "We really need the Blue Army to turn out and support the lads. We all need to stick together" !

Well, I think today proves that it makes f**k all difference how many of us turn out. The biggest gate of the season (and yeah, I know there were cheap tickets on offer so that was a big reason why), but the players still can't put in consistent performances.

As someone pointed out on another thread, the players were even too embarassed to clap the fans today ....... something they should do regardless of how shite they play, and expect a backlash if the fans see fit ! Apart from a couple of players, the team should be ashamed of themselves today - it was a disgrace.

All this crap they churning out about sticking together and we all have a part to play - I'm sorry, but the fans have kept their half of that bargain all season. It's a shame the players don't appear to think they should do it for 90 f**king minutes, let alone a full season.

The fans pay their hard earned money and deserve respect (in the form of performances) from the players, and don't deserve to be served up that shite week in, week out.

So, please, no more shite on the OS ....... you know full well you'll 20k+ there against S****horpe, but don't tell us any more that it makes a difference to lads. The fans will be there to support the club they love ..... if the players want to be a part of the club, great, but start f**king showing it !!!!

I understand what you are saying, but i think the idea of having soo many fans there today was so they can get behind the team and play there part, but the fans were poor today. I know we didn't have much to shout about and the players should lift the crowd, but we could see the team were struggling and i think we should've got behind them and tried to raise there spirits by creating a better atmosphere, it helped at Westbrom, the crowd were singing even when we were one nil down. I think the idea of a big crowd was to create a better atmosphere, but the fans were very quiet and didn't act like the 12th man, which would've helped the team.

Its great that the fans turned up today but there wasn't the support, so really whether there are 22,000 or 30,000 people, if the fans aren't supporting the team and getting behind them then what difference does it make! None if you ask me, it probably just puts more pressure on the players as the crowd is bigger than normal

The team were poor today and i totally understand your frustration

[Steven]

From the OS.

Holloway: We've Got To Stick Together

Posted on: Sat 22 Mar 2008

Ian Holloway sent out a message to the club's supporters following Leicester's 2-0 defeat to Hull at the Walkers Stadium on Saturday.

A massive 30,374 fans turned up on the day - easily City's biggest crowd of the season to date.

But goals from Dean Marney and substitute Caleb Folan would send the Blue Army home disappointed.

Holloway said: "I hope and pray that you, the supporters, never fall out of love with Leicester - and I don't think you ever will. We have had some terrible times and that was awful today.

"But these lads need you. You were unbelievable today - I have to say that.

"Some days you come up against teams that are simply better than you. Today, Hull were better than us and that hurts. We take one step forward and then one step back, but that was as far backwards as I ever want to be because I didn't enjoy that at all.

"When Hendo made that fantastic save from the penalty you nearly ripped the roof off. But we didn't kick on from that on the pitch. They then scored a second and that has murdered us.

"I understand how you all feel and we now need to do something about it when we come up against S****horpe next week.

"I think we have let down one of the best crowds I have ever seen today. I would say that only one or two of my players played as well as they can. They were unrecognisable to the team that played last Saturday. I saw us make wrong choices and I saw us play the wrong pass. We lost the ball in key areas and I saw very good players look unbelievably average.

"That's very difficult to take when you are playing in front of such a big crowd who are totally behind you. All you want to do is please them but we haven't done that today.

"We knew that we were up against a half decent side in a good run of form, but I felt that we had turned the corner last week. We have looked confident and upbeat all week but we didn't create what we needed to on the day.

"I think that too many of the players are thinking about the wrong things. How many times did I see my midfield players look hurried and lose the ball? Last week they had all the time in the world and they looked composed.

"At the end of the game some of you were singing 'what a load of rubbish' and that is exactly what I felt. It's difficult to fathom. Confidence drains away so quickly with this group - it is quite amazing.

"But we have got to stick together. We need you again against S****horpe next week and I am sure, with your help, we can get out of this mess that we are in."

[Ibbyfox]

If anything, the players wilted in the spotlight.

Mind you Preston was a fairly low crowd and they were even worse that night!

I would say we were a lot, lot poorer v Hull than against Preston - at least we had enough attacks to have the ball in the net 3 times against Preston.

Its great that the fans turned up today but there wasn't the support, so really whether there are 22,000 or 30,000 people.

Always seems to be a potentially better atmosphere when 20k turn up than when 30k turn up!! 20k pretty much represents the hard-core support as we very rarely get less.

[Mack]

Preston are also a shit team, in fact one of the worst I have seen at the Walkers this season.

At least Hull City looked half organised and had a goalscoring threat in attack.

Though granted there is not a great deal between top 6 and bottom six in this strange league.

[Ryanside]

Always seems to be a potentially better atmosphere when 20k turn up than when 30k turn up!! 20k pretty much represents the hard-core support as we very rarely get less.

so why does it make a difference if 10k more turn up? i wouldnt have though the "hard-core" support would have got stage fright, and whats stopping them from still creating an atmosphere? the truth is they players were shite, we tried to getting an atmosphere going but its almost impossible when you watch that rubbish

[Geo V]

To be honest all club son the planet would have similar rallying calls about sticking together, backing the team, blah blah blah so its only to be expected. Those who get annoyed by such posts should just not bother reading it as we know what comes out on the OS when losing just like we know about the "we must remain clam, not get carried away" and the rest of the jargon that comes out when we are on a winning run although to be fair, I cant remember the last time we were on one of those

[davieG]

An atmosphere is always easier to generate when you're out of your seat, considering under normal circumstances this is not permitted then it needs the right environment to develop it.

If the game had elements of excitement and that doesn't just mean goals but action like shots at the goal, passing movements, corners etc this naturally gets you out of your seat then the atmosphere we all want will happen. The more frequently this action occurs the more the atmosphere will build and the quicker it will build.

When you have a game like yesterday when the action consisted of 2/3 events maximum that's why you get no or very little singing/natural standing/cheers/ ooohs/aaaahs/yeh-ors etc = atmosphere

It's no fun singing sitting down neither is it natural, where in the world do people actually sit down to sing.

I'm surprised people are surprised there's no atmosphere.

[Geo V]

An atmosphere is always easier to generate when you're out of your seat, considering under normal circumstances this is not permitted then it needs the right environment to develop it.

If the game had elements of excitement and that doesn't just mean goals but action like shots at the goal, passing movements, corners etc this naturally gets you out of your seat then the atmosphere we all want will happen. The more frequently this action occurs the more the atmosphere will build and the quicker it will build.

When you have a game like yesterday when the action consisted of 2/3 events maximum that's why you get no or very little singing/natural standing/cheers/ ooohs/aaaahs/yeh-ors etc = atmosphere

It's no fun singing sitting down neither is it natural, where in the world do people actually sit down to sing.

I'm surprised people are surprised there's no atmosphere.

It doesn't stop other clubs making a noise though does it?

[davieG]

It doesn't stop other clubs making a noise though does it?

But I think you will find that it does though, I've been to some morgues over the last few seasons and the quietest games irrespective of who was playing were where the play was diabolically boring and that's pretty much most away league games I've been to with the possible exception of Preston & Barnsley last season when we were last on the precipice facing teams in a similar situation.

I would say that most noise is generated by fans of clubs that don't enforce sitting down to strictly

[Daggers]

I'm surprised people are surprised there's no atmosphere.

I'm surprised that you're surprised that people are surprised.

This could be the new Word Association 3

[davieG]

I'm surprised that you're surprised that people are surprised.

This could be the new Word Association 3

I'm surprised that in your present 'fookem mindset' that you were surprised that I was surprised that people are surprised.

Surprising isn't it!

[Geo V]

But I think you will find that it does though, I've been to some morgues over the last few seasons and the quietest games irrespective of who was playing were where the play was diabolically boring and that's pretty much most away league games I've been to with the possible exception of Preston & Barnsley last season when we were last on the precipice facing teams in a similar situation.

I would say that most noise is generated by fans of clubs that don't enforce sitting down to strictly

I dont disagree with you on the bigger picture of standing at games but must admit we don't make the best of what we have in numbers at our games surely? I know in recent times we have been messed about so much with changing managers, players, backroom staff, CE`s and even owners but I still cant understand how fans, not just ours but in general, can go to football matches and pay for the privilege and end up having enough energy to sit on their ar$es and criticize everyone from the players, the ref and the away fans but completely blank out the possibility of singing for the team.

I went to most of the games early season but have been really busy since returning from Vegas and haven't been much in the last 2 months but even at the start of the season when all this chaos was not even a twinkle in Mandaric`s eye I was still surrounded by people who had more fun shouting at Stearman or MDV than singing for the lads.

[davieG]

I dont disagree with you on the bigger picture of standing at games but must admit we don't make the best of what we have in numbers at our games surely? I know in recent times we have been messed about so much with changing managers, players, backroom staff, CE`s and even owners but I still cant understand how fans, not just ours but in general, can go to football matches and pay for the privilege and end up having enough energy to sit on their ar$es and criticize everyone from the players, the ref and the away fans but completely blank out the possibility of singing for the team.

I went to most of the games early season but have been really busy since returning from Vegas and haven't been much in the last 2 months but even at the start of the season when all this chaos was not even a twinkle in Mandaric`s eye I was still surrounded by people who had more fun shouting at Stearman or MDV than singing for the lads.

The point I'm making is that it's more natural to talk (moan) whilst sitting down than it is to sing and cheer. As we're forced to sit and nothing in the game happens to get us out of our seats, did you not see what happen to the crowd with the penalty incident then there will be more talking than cheering.

[Geo V]

The point I'm making is that it's more natural to talk (moan) whilst sitting down than it is to sing and cheer. As we're forced to sit and nothing in the game happens to get us out of our seats, did you not see what happen to the crowd with the penalty incident then there will be more talking than cheering.

I get the point but then again to me when I hear people defend the noise level in our stands to be its like defending the indefensible. Winning, losing, cracking match or a shower of ****, just sing your heart out.

They seem to do ok singing in church and it neednt be an emotion full Gospel one either!

[davieG]

I get the point but then again to me when I hear people defend the noise level in our stands to be its like defending the indefensible. Winning, losing, cracking match or a shower of ****, just sing your heart out.

They seem to do ok singing in church and it neednt be an emotion full Gospel one either!

They stand in churches

[Daggers]

They stand in churches

They are all on their knees when they're trying to evoke miracles.

[davieG]

They are all on their knees when they're trying to evoke miracles.

That's the answer then everyone on their knees next week none of this namby pamby standing - I'd like to see the steward's response to 20,000 fans all kneeling.

[SantiagoFox]

I understand what you are saying, but i think the idea of having soo many fans there today was so they can get behind the team and play there part, but the fans were poor today. I know we didn't have much to shout about and the players should lift the crowd, but we could see the team were struggling and i think we should've got behind them and tried to raise there spirits by creating a better atmosphere, it helped at Westbrom, the crowd were singing even when we were one nil down. I think the idea of a big crowd was to create a better atmosphere, but the fans were very quiet and didn't act like the 12th man, which would've helped the team.

Its great that the fans turned up today but there wasn't the support, so really whether there are 22,000 or 30,000 people, if the fans aren't supporting the team and getting behind them then what difference does it make! None if you ask me, it probably just puts more pressure on the players as the crowd is bigger than normal

The team were poor today and i totally understand your frustration

Spot on!

And I thought it would be like that , big crowd, lots of impressionable kids, crap performance, no atmosphere.

And stewards trying to throw out my lad for standing on the back row. Groan.

When it was the terracing, when there were more people there, the atmosphere was better.

At the Walkers, it seems to be the other way round.

I'll still try and do my bit next week amongst the flasks and blankets beloved by the management.

[Simi]

Spot on!

And I thought it would be like that , big crowd, lots of impressionable kids, crap performance, no atmosphere.

And stewards trying to throw out my lad for standing on the back row. Groan.

When it was the terracing, when there were more people there, the atmosphere was better.

At the Walkers, it seems to be the other way round.

I'll still try and do my bit next week amongst the flasks and blankets beloved by the management.

Yeah, I was with your lad yesterday as always and the treatment was very bad. I've not actually witnessed first hand a steward use physical force on a fan. It was completely the wrong thing to do and made the whole situation worse.

[clazkel]

An atmosphere is always easier to generate when you're out of your seat, considering under normal circumstances this is not permitted then it needs the right environment to develop it.

If the game had elements of excitement and that doesn't just mean goals but action like shots at the goal, passing movements, corners etc this naturally gets you out of your seat then the atmosphere we all want will happen. The more frequently this action occurs the more the atmosphere will build and the quicker it will build.

When you have a game like yesterday when the action consisted of 2/3 events maximum that's why you get no or very little singing/natural standing/cheers/ ooohs/aaaahs/yeh-ors etc = atmosphere

It's no fun singing sitting down neither is it natural, where in the world do people actually sit down to sing.

I'm surprised people are surprised there's no atmosphere.

I'm not surprise there wasn't any atmosphere, i just thought we should've created an atmosphere, if it means standing up, then if everyone does it then they can't really stop it! The fans need to get behind the players and try and lift them, it does help, so every fan needs to start playing there part.

[Daggers]

That's the answer then everyone on their knees next week none of this namby pamby standing - I'd like to see the steward's response to 20,000 fans all kneeling.

[self-censored reference to fellatio]