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Nobody, hoping someone dies is the worst thing that someone can say. I wouldn't want my worst enemy to die.

That's a commendable attitude. Whether you'd still feel like that if you got closer to the sick side of life I don't know. Imagine yourself as the parents of Holly and Jessica or if you were a military commander whose platoon had just been blasted into pieces by a roadside bomb and wonder if you'd still want your enemy dead.

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I don't think George Galloway has ever hurt anyone either has he?

One thing he has done though, is be badly misrepresented in the press (e.g them saying he was friends with Saddam etc., when in reality he was protesting against him outside the embassy in London while our 'leaders' were selling him guns and gas).

The US Senate tried to have him on that great day, and he totally destroyed them for an hour and proved their lies.

Supporting terrorist organisations and genocidal tyrants probably counts as hurting people. Galloway may have opposed Saddam during the 1980s, but his support for the Butcher of Baghdad was overt as soon it became clear that he was now an enemy of the US. Here is the quote expressing his unambiguous support for a murderous tyrant in 1994.

I thought the President would appreciate to know that even today, three years after the war, I still meet families who are calling their newborn sons Saddam. Sir, I salute your courage, your strength and your indefatigability. And I want you to know that we are with you until victory, until victory until Jerusalem.

Galloway also said that the massacre of Kurds and Shia after their uprising three years prior could be excused as 'it took place during a civil war with massive violence on both sides.' As for Uday Hussein, Saddam's psychopathic rapist of a son, how best to address him? 'Your Excellency, very, very nice to see you again' was Galloway's decision.

Then there's his support for Hezbollah, one of the most racist, mysoginistic and homophobic organisations on the planet. He made that clear at a Stop The War rally.

Hezbollah has never been a terrorist organisation. I am here to glorify the Lebanese resistance Hezbollah and I am here to glorify the resistance leader, Hassan Nasrallah.

The same Hezbollah that has declared the spread of AIDS a Jewish conspiracy to decimate the Arab population, the same Hezbollah that called on Muslims to boycott Independence Day because it's star Jeff Goldblum was Jewish and the same cuddly Hassan Nasrallah, hero of the resistance, who glorified the Nazi Holocaust denying historian David Irving.

As for destroying the US Senate, they accused him of corruption and they had insufficient evidence to make the charge stick. You have to question what is worse though, expressing support for a regime guilty of systematic human rights abuses because it has paid you vast sums of money to do so, or supporting it because you feel an affinity with it and it's world stance. If Galloway really didn't take money from the Iraqis (and he didn't bother answering the charges with any counter evidence, thought it better to abuse the US for an hour) then he must have supported the Ba'athist regime because he thought it right.

Yet I didn't say his death would please me, just his political one. Galloway loves the sound of his own voice and fame, so nothing would hurt this vile slug more than people passing by in the street, not knowing who he was. The mention of his name being met with blank looks, That's what he deserves, and I daresay that that's what he's going to get before too long, when he loses his seat in Parliament and his support for the regimes of Iran and Syria become ever clearer.

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That's a commendable attitude. Whether you'd still feel like that if you got closer to the sick side of life I don't know. Imagine yourself as the parents of Holly and Jessica or if you were a military commander whose platoon had just been blasted into pieces by a roadside bomb and wonder if you'd still want your enemy dead.

A) I am not in that position and if I was, I don't know how I'd feel.

B) I'd never wish anyone to die.

Although, Mark David Chapman :@:angry: Now, thats a man I hate.

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Damn it that bloke is my MP!

:laugh:

Not for long fella, he can't even be bothered to stand in Bethnal Green & Bow because he's done such a poor job for the constituents!

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Although, Mark David Chapman :@:angry: Now, thats a man I hate.

My boyfriend, circa the time of John Lennon's death, was called Mark Chapman. He was mortified when I joked he'd killed the man. He didn't even know who John Lennon was. But we were only 6 at the time.

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My boyfriend, circa the time of John Lennon's death, was called Mark Chapman. He was mortified when I joked he'd killed the man. He didn't even know who John Lennon was. But we were only 6 at the time.

That's sort of cute but very, very wrong at the same time. :unsure:

Posted
That's sort of cute but very, very wrong at the same time. :unsure:

That's me!!

Posted
You say things like that on ere youre gonna end up with a whole heap of stalkers lol;)

lol I seriously doubt that!

Posted
lol I seriously doubt that!

Hmm, I dunno - you are the munter magnet, remember! :giggle::P

Posted
Hmm, I dunno - you are the munter magnet, remember! :giggle::P

:giggle:

:angry:

Posted
Hmm, I dunno - you are the munter magnet, remember! :giggle::P

Does Sir F know you refer to him in this manner? lol:P

Posted
Does Sir F know you refer to him in this manner? lol:P

Oops. :blush::P

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Does Sir F know you refer to him in this manner? lol:P

Oops. :blush::P

He is the exception.

I had to get it right once, y'know. :(

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1. Supporting terrorist organisations and genocidal tyrants probably counts as hurting people.

Then there's his support for Hezbollah, one of the most racist, mysoginistic and homophobic organisations on the planet. He made that clear at a Stop The War rally.

Galloway has in no way contributed to anything bad that any of these regimes or organisations have ever done. A fair few other politicians past and present have. He went to Baghdad and greeted Saddam exactly the same as countless other western politicians have, including the legend Tony Benn. The difference between Galloway, Benn and the others, however, is that those two were not there to sell him weapons (including gas) to use against his own people and Iran like alot of the other visitors were.

Gorgeous George has not, either, taken money from the regime. If he had, then it would of been proved without question. The powers that be would of loved to have ANY evidence of ANY wrongdoing by George. And if there was any wrongdoing then they would know about it.

As for Hezbollah, he supports what he and millions of others see as the lesser of two evils in that region. Most people in this world know exactly which regime has been responsible for most innocent death and destruction there in the past 60 years, year after year. The other most vicious regimes around the region are all kept in power (and put into power in some cases) only because of support from US and UK secret services (maybe other Western powers too) over the years. Galloway has played no part in any of it, he has constantly been outspoken, and how people hate him for it. (But more love him for it)

2. As for destroying the US Senate, they accused him of corruption and they had insufficient evidence to make the charge stick.

They never had 'insufficient' evidence against him, they had none, because there is none. They accused him of things with no basis in fact and he destroyed them in reply speaking from the heart, honestly and with real passion. It looked so easy for him to pick apart their lies. And at the end of the hearing I think most people could see who was the most trustworthy of the two parties. It was glaringly obvious to anyone who didn't have an undentable hatred or political prejudice against George just who had been misleading the people in the run up to war. It was one of the great TV spectacles of the year.

3. Yet I didn't say his death would please me, just his political one.

I just thought that's what was meant rather than meaning the end of his political career. :D

I don't know of any MP who has a bigger following than George, or anywhere near, so even if he loses his status as an MP then I don't think it will stop him. This man of high calibre has too much grit, passion, knowledge, fire and support all across the planet to be stopped in his tracks just yet. He is gaining more support all the time from people who once thought of him as the media try to portray him.

Anyone who pisses off the establishment as much as him is definately doing something right. Viva Mr Galloway :D

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Galloway has in no way contributed to anything bad that any of these regimes or organisations have ever done. A fair few other politicians past and present have. He went to Baghdad and greeted Saddam exactly the same as countless other western politicians have, including the legend Tony Benn. The difference between Galloway, Benn and the others, however, is that those two were not there to sell him weapons (including gas) to use against his own people and Iran like alot of the other visitors were.

It would obviously be hypocritical of me not to condemn the criminals who sold Saddam the weapons and chemicals he used to butcher hundreds of thousands. Though surely you can see how wrong it was of Galloway to go to Iraq and tell Saddam what a wondeful leader he was after the world knew what he had been doing with those weapons, and to have the gall to say he was actually thinking of the Iraqi people who he had systematically brutalised for 15 years while grinning inanely at Saddam like a lovesick teenager is insulting in the extreme.

Gorgeous George has not, either, taken money from the regime. If he had, then it would of been proved without question. The powers that be would of loved to have ANY evidence of ANY wrongdoing by George. And if there was any wrongdoing then they would know about it.

If the evidence doesn't exist now, that does not mean to say the evidence never existed. There's a chance that the regime itself destroyed and covered up evidence of its wrong-doing as tanks rumbled towards Baghdad, just as every criminal regime from the Nazis onwards saves its skin as they die. Neverless, The Mariam Appeal, headed by Gormless George himself, is known to have received more than $200,000 from the Iraqi's Oil-For-Food programme, a programme the world now knows was hopelessly corrupt. Even if the donations from Iraq were somehow miraculously legitimate and wholly philanthropic, as I said before you have to question a man who will express support for a totalitarian and genocidal regime for free. Has his obsessive hatred of the US gone so far he'd rather support fascists? Judging by the fact he still supports the equally repulsive Syrian regime and the election stealing Ahmadinejad, I'm guessing yes. Also, I don't know if you noticed, Galloway didn't bother to answer the most direct questions asked of him at Senate, he preferred to indulge himself in an anti-American rant than do such a thing. It may have been passionate and fiery, but you have to wonder why he chose such a diversionary tactic.

As for Hezbollah, he supports what he and millions of others see as the lesser of two evils in that region. Most people in this world know exactly which regime has been responsible for most innocent death and destruction there in the past 60 years, year after year. The other most vicious regimes around the region are all kept in power (and put into power in some cases) only because of support from US and UK secret services (maybe other Western powers too) over the years. Galloway has played no part in any of it, he has constantly been outspoken, and how people hate him for it. (But more love him for it)

The lesser of two evils? Really? Imagine a world where Hamas and Hezbollah get what they want and the state of Israel collapses to their forces. Do you really think these two terrorist organisations would allow Jews of the former Israel to live unmolested as Israel does with Arabs living in its borders? Israel has indeed been guilty of war crimes and human rights abuses, and has more blood on its hands than any other nation in the region but it has usually done so during wars started by its enemies, enemies that don't exactly have clean records themselves. To call Hezbollah the lesser evil is simplistic, to call them a heroic resistance as Galloway does means you must either be spectacularly stupid or actually support the bombing of civilians because of their religion.

I don't know of any MP who has a bigger following than George, or anywhere near, so even if he loses his status as an MP then I don't think it will stop him. This man of high calibre has too much grit, passion, knowledge, fire and support all across the planet to be stopped in his tracks just yet. He is gaining more support all the time from people who once thought of him as the media try to portray him.

Galloway actually has one of the most slender majorities in Parliament, about 2%. This after his RESPECT party launched one of the most vicious hate campaigns against his opponent Oona King, even after they'd levelled the kind of anti-semitic abuse at her not seen since the days of the NF in the 1970s Galloway refused to condemn it. In other words, using the dirtiest tactics possible in a constituency where Galloway had considerable support among the local Asian and Muslim population he still couldn't get a sizeable majority. His support can't be that great, most people can see through a man who supports dictators and racists the world over, however impressive or passionate his oratory. Galloway's fanbase is small but vocal (he seems to have been granted demigod status on YouTube among those who carnt reely spel awl dat wel) and his pathetic showing as MP for Bethnal Green & Bow, where he has one of the worst attendance records in Parliament, shows that Galloway is arrogant enough to believe his own hype. He may well get a few speaking tours, but swearing at the audience like he did at the Oxford Union when someone shoots him down means he probably won't be invited back. As for a man of high calibre, I don't really need to say all the things that are wrong with such a laughably optimistic viewpoint so will sum up shortly that Galloway is a political thug of the lowest order, a populist demagogue who supports tyrants because even he has no idea where he should lie politically, so long as it's against the US and Israel.

EDIT: Now actually makes grammatical sense!

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As for Hezbollah, he supports what he and millions of others see as the lesser of two evils in that region. Most people in this world know exactly which regime has been responsible for most innocent death and destruction there in the past 60 years, year after year. The other most vicious regimes around the region are all kept in power (and put into power in some cases) only because of support from US and UK secret services (maybe other Western powers too) over the years. Galloway has played no part in any of it, he has constantly been outspoken, and how people hate him for it. (But more love him for it)

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