davieG Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Your company was, as ever, a delight. Shush everyone will want to sit next to me.
Daggers Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Shush everyone will want to sit next to me. Everyone? Not those who'd happily see bridges and pubs crushed under the giant foot of blinkered progress
dave the caveman Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Might sound a bit hard-nosed but buying players left, right and centre seems to be the route to success these days...We'd all love for the club to return to those heights but the sad fact is that a hefty bank balance is the only way to achieve it. Aston Villa have every chance of finishing above Man City this season. You can't just buy success. It's not that easy. Infact I can't think of any team who have ever bought their way into success and stayed there. Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal don't buy players left, right and centre. Chelsea did (of course they certaintly don't anymore), but it was Mourinho who brought them their success, he was more influential than Romans money. Man City? We'll see. But there are no signs of them being genuine contenders for anything other than a domestic cup and maybe the europa league in the near future.
beemeroo Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Aston Villa have every chance of finishing above Man City this season. You can't just buy success. It's not that easy. Infact I can't think of any team who have ever bought their way into success and stayed there. Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal don't buy players left, right and centre. Chelsea did (of course they certaintly don't anymore), but it was Mourinho who brought them their success, he was more influential than Romans money. Man City? We'll see. But there are no signs of them being genuine contenders for anything other than a domestic cup and maybe the europa league in the near future. I see what you're getting at but Randy Lerner is a billionaire.
BlueFox_23 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 This had all evolved from the rumours about David Gold investing in City, although he's stated that he's had enough of 3 hour commutes, so he would not invest in any team north of watford! To be fair for any team to be successful alot of investment is required. Milan has done a cracking job for city and as a business man any good offers on the table he would accept but with milan as long as they are good in the long term for City!
beemeroo Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 This had all evolved from the rumours about David Gold investing in City, although he's stated that he's had enough of 3 hour commutes, so he would not invest in any team north of watford! To be fair for any team to be successful alot of investment is required. Milan has done a cracking job for city and as a business man any good offers on the table he would accept but with milan as long as they are good in the long term for City! With all due respect Milan has not done a cracking job at city. He spent his first year in charge dumping managers like nobody's business. The one man he did stick with that year probably should've got after the first light hearted quip. Granted, he has sat back and allowed Pearson to create a good ethos and decent squad, but this can be more attributed to Milan keeping his nose out than anything he has done actively. Not that I hate the fella, just a bit rich to give him credit for much really.
Guest Bilo Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Aston Villa have every chance of finishing above Man City this season. You can't just buy success. It's not that easy. Infact I can't think of any team who have ever bought their way into success and stayed there. Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal don't buy players left, right and centre. Chelsea did (of course they certaintly don't anymore), but it was Mourinho who brought them their success, he was more influential than Romans money. Man City? We'll see. But there are no signs of them being genuine contenders for anything other than a domestic cup and maybe the europa league in the near future. As has already been said, Villa's chairman is a billionaire and an ambitious one at that. Billionaire owners can go wrong (see QPR) but you probably need one if you want to do anything more than merely survive in the Premiership. Obviously a good manager comes into play but the examples you cite haven't exactly been thrifty with transfer fees in the past.
beemeroo Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 As has already been said, Villa's chairman is a billionaire and an ambitious one at that. Billionaire owners can go wrong (see QPR) but you probably need one if you want to do anything more than merely survive in the Premiership. Obviously a good manager comes into play but the examples you cite haven't exactly been thrifty with transfer fees in the past. Agreed with this. To suggest Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal have not had significant (comparative) investment in their squads is a little ludicrous. Also, Chelsea's investment is looking to have sustained them pretty well. As a Leicester fan I wouldn't call a fairly cemented top four position unsuccessful.
dave the caveman Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 As has already been said, Villa's chairman is a billionaire and an ambitious one at that. Billionaire owners can go wrong (see QPR) but you probably need one if you want to do anything more than merely survive in the Premiership. Obviously a good manager comes into play but the examples you cite haven't exactly been thrifty with transfer fees in the past. Lerner hasn't spent a great deal of money though, has he. They haven't bought players left, right and centre, and yet they are a successful team. Obviously success is relative. The best we can realistically hope for is a top-8 finish in the premiership. My point is that I don't think we need a billionaire chairman and a trigger happy approach to buying players to achieve that. We just need a brilliant manager and several massive slices of luck.
beemeroo Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Lerner hasn't spent a great deal of money though, has he. They haven't bought players left, right and centre, and yet they are a successful team. Obviously success is relative. The best we can realistically hope for is a top-8 finish in the premiership. My point is that I don't think we need a billionaire chairman and a trigger happy approach to buying players to achieve that. We just need a brilliant manager and several massive slices of luck. I believe they spent close to £45million last summer. Money wouldn't buy us success necessarily, but we need some to have any chance.
Daggers Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 Milan won't want to sell until we are a prem club otherwise he's selling for a fraction of what he could get If that's the case, we'll all be dead before it happens!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 Might sound a bit hard-nosed but buying players left, right and centre seems to be the route to success these days. How much of a hypocrite would you feel making a trip to the FA Cup final? Or making an away trip in the Europa League? We'd all love for the club to return to those heights but the sad fact is that a hefty bank balance is the only way to achieve it. Exactly so. Football is a business, and money is what it's all about. Wish we could be in Man.City's position.
Jay Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 judging by the clown he got to take over from him at Portsmouth a man who spent money he didn't have like it was going out of fashion and then got bored after putting the club on the edge of Administration I hope he doesn't just take money from anyone
Ford Super Sunday Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 Would this thread have been started had we won yesterday, and everything would have been blue-tinted heaven? Every time we draw or lose, the world's gonna implode, we're 'a shower of shite', Nigel's gonna leave or Milan's gonna sell.
davieG Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 Would this thread have been started had we won yesterday, and everything would have been blue-tinted heaven?Every time we draw or lose, the world's gonna implode, we're 'a shower of shite', Nigel's gonna leave or Milan's gonna sell. I don't think the result had anything to do with this thread it was 'mentioned/discussed' on the phone in after the game as a result of some interview with Mandaric. At least that's how I understand it.
JoeyB Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 This had all evolved from the rumours about David Gold investing in City, although he's stated that he's had enough of 3 hour commutes, so he would not invest in any team north of watford! To be fair for any team to be successful alot of investment is required. Milan has done a cracking job for city and as a business man any good offers on the table he would accept but with milan as long as they are good in the long term for City! No its not there have been people looking at the books seeing where they can help the club both internaly and externaly with a view to putting funds into the club for a long time, they were here from the backend of last season i think, so its nothing to do with David Gold. Would this thread have been started had we won yesterday, and everything would have been blue-tinted heaven?Every time we draw or lose, the world's gonna implode, we're 'a shower of shite', Nigel's gonna leave or Milan's gonna sell. It was a pre-recored interview, so with what ever the result they would have played the interview!
orod Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 There must be some rich arab out there who wants to buy us i wouldnt want to be owned by an arab. I dont think it would be good for stability to sell and get new owners atm. Theres no mandaric would sell up at the moment anyay.
Daggers Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 i wouldnt want to be owned by an arab. I dont think it would be good for stability to sell and get new owners atm. Theres no mandaric would sell up at the moment anyay. Go on then...why? To all of it.
ramboacdc Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 i think if they go....they go and it means we will spend this season fooking about and not getting out of the league.
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