dbtcity Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Gibbwarrior1988 did we get promoted last season???? Oh sh*#t we didn't!!!!! Idiot
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Gibbwarrior1988 did we get promoted last season???? Oh sh*#t we didn't!!!!! Idiot If it wasn't for a shit ref, linesman and frenchman, we probably would have done.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 If it wasn't for a shit ref, linesman and frenchman, we probably would have done. A manager that didn't screw up the first leg would have helped. And we'd still have had to beat Blackpool.
acooling08 Posted 25 January 2011 Author Posted 25 January 2011 We finally have a manager who I trust with regards to player judgement. If people aren't getting in the team then it is obviously for a reason. If players like Neilson and Howard are being replaced with Naughton and Yakubu then i'm not even gonna slightly complain. Football is football. But when Naughon and Yak say they want PL footy and leave, the players we used to play will be loaned (Waggy?) or gone for 1st team football.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 No goalkeeper in the world would have saved that shot on Saturday As my post mentioned, this is the excuse trotted out week after week by the Weale lovers.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 But when Naughon and Yak say they want PL footy and leave, the players we used to play will be loaned (Waggy?) or gone for 1st team football. Let's just carry on playing a poorer quality of player then. How big a squad would you like? Something has to give.
dbtcity Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 I agree we were robbed last season but the team still over performed and didn't play any sort of football that we've been watching this season, I was just saying bringing in quality is only going to keep improving us regardless of how many we bring in
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 A manager that didn't screw up the first leg would have helped. And we'd still have had to beat Blackpool. As much as he 'screwed up the first leg' (I admit, we didn't play well) we still had 2 stone wall penalties not given. We also outplayed Cardiff at their place after we scored our first goal. They should have had 2 men sent off We were very, very unlucky in my book. Of course we'd still had to have beaten Blackpool, who knows what would have happened?
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 As my post mentioned, this is the excuse trotted out week after week by the Weale lovers. Well you can't argue with it can you?
Kent Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 If we had to add to any position now I'd probably like to see a GK of a similar quality to some of our outfield signings/loanees. We can create chances and now it looks like we can put them away. Stop conceding as many goals and we're well on the way. I'm not saying Weale is poor by any means and a keeper isn't the only addition I'd welcome. In Sven we trust.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Well you can't argue with it can you? Week after week? I can argue with it, he's poor with long range shots. Poor distribution Doesn't command the box Doesn't Scratch that, he's poor unless it's a shot from 12 yards. Poor is perhaps a tad harsh, below average may be better suited.
Haydos Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 But when Naughon and Yak say they want PL footy and leave, the players we used to play will be loaned (Waggy?) or gone for 1st team football. Why would are back up's be loaned out next season if we haven't got any players to play with? We're taking huge steps at the moment and I think even if we don't make the prem this season, we'll still be a massively appealing club. I know it's a simplistic view but if he was appointed instead of Sousa we'd be top 3 easy.
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 Week after week? I can argue with it, he's poor with long range shots. Poor distribution Doesn't command the box Doesn't Scratch that, he's poor unless it's a shot from 12 yards. Poor is perhaps a tad harsh, below average may be better suited. So you think there's a goalkeeper who could have saved that shot? That's what I'm asking you
lcfcsnow Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 So you think there's a goalkeeper who could have saved that shot? That's what I'm asking you That shot may be an exception, it was a great strike but his positioning is poor week in week out so who knows, maybe a better keeper would have seen it coming and adjusted his feet before the shot. But the majority of fans are catching onto it around me now. Weale might as well not be in goal half the time when someone takes a shot outside the box, its not just the fact that he lets alot in but the majority of the time he never seems to get near to saving the shot.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 You're missing the point, it happens week after week, I don't think it's a coincidence, the word has gone around and any player that can hit the target from distance has been told to have a go.
lcfcsnow Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 You're missing the point, it happens week after week, I don't think it's a coincidence, the word has gone around and any player that can hit the target from distance has been told to have a go. That's his speciality.
hackneyfox Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 That shot may be an exception, it was a great strike but his positioning is poor week in week out so who knows, maybe a better keeper would have seen it coming and adjusted his feet before the shot. But the majority of fans are catching onto it around me now. Weale might as well not be in goal half the time when someone takes a shot outside the box, its not just the fact that he lets alot in but the majority of the time he never seems to get near to saving the shot. Thank you
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 That shot may be an exception, it was a great strike but his positioning is poor week in week out so who knows, maybe a better keeper would have seen it coming and adjusted his feet before the shot. But the majority of fans are catching onto it around me now. Weale might as well not be in goal half the time when someone takes a shot outside the box, its not just the fact that he lets alot in but the majority of the time he never seems to get near to saving the shot. I agree with you that Weale isn't great with long shots. I just think it's unfair to pull that line out every week when the shot in question he could do nothing about. Like the 4th v Man City, his positioning was poor. But I can't agree he could have done more about the one on Saturday, it was rocketed into the top corner. Like I said, what are the defence doing in all of this? They could always be tighter. You're missing the point, it happens week after week, I don't think it's a coincidence, the word has gone around and any player that can hit the target from distance has been told to have a go. No I'm not missing the point, I get your point, but you can't say people are wrong for saying he could have saved that shot on Saturday. Yes people said 'no one could have saved it' as you quoted, quite rightly
marbelladave Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 That shot may be an exception, it was a great strike but his positioning is poor week in week out so who knows, maybe a better keeper would have seen it coming and adjusted his feet before the shot. But the majority of fans are catching onto it around me now. Weale might as well not be in goal half the time when someone takes a shot outside the box, its not just the fact that he lets alot in but the majority of the time he never seems to get near to saving the shot. Harsh but probably true. Certainly does not appear to anticipate the long shot all that well. Saturday's goal was exceptional, but I do recall several goals from range that he really should have saved. It is my experience, that if the same things happen time and time again, there is a problem. To be fair to Weale, defensively we tend to let the opposition play the ball in space in front of our back 4, given this time, sometimes they line up a long shot with the results we all know. I've said many times that we need a decent 'holding player', this is yet another reason why...
B52 Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 No player as good as Waghorn or Hobbs will want to sit on the bench, unless they are poor professionals I don't see why players who want to play football are labelled as having an attitude by some How come the existence of reserve league? Why are PL full of bench players or alternative tactics? Do you call them poor professionals just because they don't take tha chance in Chapionship or lower?
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 How come the existence of reserve league? Why are PL full of bench players or alternative tactics? Do you call them poor professionals just because they don't take tha chance in Chapionship or lower? If they are happy to sit on the bench and just collect their pay cheques without playing regular football, then yes, they are poor professionals. And the reserve league doesn't count, they might as well have a kick around at the park.
drc Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 If they are happy to sit on the bench and just collect their pay cheques without playing regular football, then yes, they are poor professionals. And the reserve league doesn't count, they might as well have a kick around at the park. I think it's more proffesional to get in there and fight for a starting eleven place even if it'll take some time rather than flee to a worse club. A profesional wants to play at the highest level psossbile and have to fight for it. Manchester United has been so succesful because they've had players that have sat on the bench fora year and two and then fought themselves into the team and have had great careers.
B52 Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 If they are happy to sit on the bench and just collect their pay cheques without playing regular football, then yes, they are poor professionals. And the reserve league doesn't count, they might as well have a kick around at the park. We have different views on what the word professional means.
Kitchandro Posted 25 January 2011 Posted 25 January 2011 I think it's more proffesional to get in there and fight for a starting eleven place even if it'll take some time rather than flee to a worse club. A profesional wants to play at the highest level psossbile and have to fight for it. Manchester United has been so succesful because they've had players that have sat on the bench fora year and two and then fought themselves into the team and have had great careers. I agree, but I wouldn't blame some of current lot for thinking Sven just doesn't want them. If he's not giving them a game time now, why would he give them more when we are in the Premiership and have cash to spend on more new players? They will only get further down the pecking order. And if they feel that way and want to move on so they can play football, can you really blame them?
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