Guest MattP Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Blimey really, looked like very little, but theres more to it, and fans were pretty much sticking up for eachother on a night where they were targeted, I'm not saying their angels but it seems any incident involving celtic is either exaggerated or recieves more attention that if it happend elsewhere. Don't really see how attacking an innocent steward is protecting 7,000 of your fellow fans being targeted? We'll leave it here I think, Scotland has a big problem on both sides. We all know it and its probably pointless trying to take sides.
accessory Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 For all you Rangers sympathisers out there, here's another video from Ibrox on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jdjWFUViQ&feature=related The chant accuses the late Celtic boss Jock Stein of covering up a child abuse scandal at Parkhead in the 70s. Of course there's no evidence to back up this smear, which is circulated purely in envy at the fact that Stein made Celtic European champions, a title Rangers have never matched and are very unlikely ever to do so. No respect is due to the huns for that.
Guest MattP Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 For all you Rangers sympathisers out there, here's another video from Ibrox on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jdjWFUViQ&feature=related The chant accuses the late Celtic boss Jock Stein of covering up a child abuse scandal at Parkhead in the 70s. Of course there's no evidence to back up this smear, which is circulated purely in envy at the fact that Stein made Celtic European champions, a title Rangers have never matched and are very unlikely ever to do so. No respect is due to the huns for that. No Evidence? I hope he didnt as all decent people would, but didnt Hugh Birt actually stand up in Glasgow sheriff court and tell them the cover up went from top to bottom to keep Jimmy Torbetts activities at the Celtic Boys Club hidden? In Alan Brazil's book (one of the abused players) he also states more people knew than had came out, always thought that was a hidden message.
Podge Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Lots of preaching on this thread, but the use of a sectarian slurs should really be avoided on a Leicester forum. No need for "hun" this and that.
accessory Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Lots of preaching on this thread, but the use of a sectarian slurs should really be avoided on a Leicester forum. No need for "hun" this and that. No need for words like "vermin" and "scum" either, at least in the context in which they've been used by some in this thread.
lcfcadam Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Put in a basic fashion: I would far rather go to Ibrox than Parkhead. The East End of Glasgow is a pretty scary place - shockingly poverty-ridden and run-down - whereas Ibrox is in a really up-and-coming part of the West of the city. Not that the contrasting local environs of the clubs seem to have any effect on the number of tools who turn up to each one though...
lcfc"weasel" Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Put in a basic fashion: I would far rather go to Ibrox than Parkhead. The East End of Glasgow is a pretty scary place - shockingly poverty-ridden and run-down - whereas Ibrox is in a really up-and-coming part of the West of the city. Not that the contrasting local environs of the clubs seem to have any effect on the number of tools who turn up to each one though... Isn't Parkhead a protestant-majority area of Glasgow and the opposite can be said for the area around Ipox? I've always believed this and found it weird, but never been sure if it's true or not.
accessory Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Parkhead is indeed a Protestant area of Glasgow. Think Ibrox may be too - certainly nearby Govan is, as Alex Ferguson has testified.
lcfc"weasel" Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Parkhead is indeed a Protestant area of Glasgow. Think Ibrox may be too - certainly nearby Govan is, as Alex Ferguson has testified. Thought Ibrox was catholic, but I could be wrong. Think I remember seeing a union jack walking to Parkhead at the Hamburg game a couple of seasons ago, could be daydreaming though.
Guest MattP Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Thought Ibrox was catholic, but I could be wrong. Think I remember seeing a union jack walking to Parkhead at the Hamburg game a couple of seasons ago, could be daydreaming though. Probably a Hamburg fan.
lcfc"weasel" Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Probably a Hamburg fan. Like all huns... Hamburg est Braun weiß.
Guest MattP Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Weird thing I found in Hamburg last week was that most of the guys I met supported either HSV or St Pauli but also wanted the other to do well, sure there is a hardcore that obviously dont but shows how much bullshit I was fed by the Huns and the Tims.
Podge Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 No need for words like "vermin" and "scum" either, at least in the context in which they've been used by some in this thread. Exactly my point, no need to let their rivalry cause arguments amongst us City fans
Finnegan Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Weird thing I found in Hamburg last week was that most of the guys I met supported either HSV or St Pauli but also wanted the other to do well, sure there is a hardcore that obviously dont but shows how much bullshit I was fed by the Huns and the Tims. Don't the Sankt Pauli lot would say the same about Hansa Rostock mind.
lcfc"weasel" Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Weird thing I found in Hamburg last week was that most of the guys I met supported either HSV or St Pauli but also wanted the other to do well, sure there is a hardcore that obviously dont but shows how much bullshit I was fed by the Huns and the Tims. Sort of thing I'd be very surprised to hear, interesting to know though. Don't the Sankt Pauli lot would say the same about Hansa Rostock mind. Thankfully.
Guest MattP Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Sort of thing I'd be very surprised to hear, interesting to know though. Thankfully. I couldnt believe it, told its one of the most hate-filled games in europe and obviously know about the Glasgow links, just nothing like it when you go there, I've got no doubt matchday is a tense time etc etc but the real hate certainly doesnt seem to come from the majority. Even on the Reaperbahn and around the pubs on the harbour which is St Pauli's main area they didnt seem to bothered. (If you are ever there, hit the Portuguese quarter of the Harbour, loads of bars, a euro a pint everywhere. Perfect.)
lcfc"weasel" Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 I couldnt believe it, told its one of the most hate-filled games in europe and obviously know about the Glasgow links, just nothing like it when you go there, I've got no doubt matchday is a tense time etc etc but the real hate certainly doesnt seem to come from the majority. Even on the Reaperbahn and around the pubs on the harbour which is St Pauli's main area they didnt seem to bothered. (If you are ever there, hit the Portuguese quarter of the Harbour, loads of bars, a euro a pint everywhere. Perfect.) Definitely intend to go over for a Pauli game sometime in the next year/18 months so will be sure to check it out, cheers.
RedHux Posted 9 July 2011 Posted 9 July 2011 Definitely intend to go over for a Pauli game sometime in the next year/18 months so will be sure to check it out, cheers. I would recommend the weekend of 20th/23rd April 2012.
TheTrees Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 out the thread, now. Rangers are just as bad as celtic for the sectarian stuff. you ****ing idiot. tell me one song that celtic sing that is 'sectarian'
accessory Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 Erm. Boys Of The Old Brigade, perhaps? Maybe that's why it's been banned from Parkhead, though it's still regularly heard at away games.
Finnegan Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 you ****ing idiot. tell me one song that celtic sing that is 'sectarian' "Sinn Feinn" "The IRA" - really? Funny, I don't remember that being in the Dubliners' version.
lcfc"weasel" Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 "Sinn Feinn" "The IRA" - really? Funny, I don't remember that being in the Dubliners' version. It's the Malleys version that is preferred. It's the inserts which are bad, the song as itself isn't sectarian, the same can be said for a fair few songs from both sides.
Finnegan Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 It's the Malleys version that is preferred. It's the inserts which are bad, the song as itself isn't sectarian, the same can be said for a fair few songs from both sides. I imagine the Rangers fans would argue otherwise. I am, as you know, one of Foxes Talk's more left wing posters and I have to say I have a huge amount of respect for the true IRA (before the other half of FT get excited, think rabble of volunteers versus professional army for the liberation of an illegally occupied country - not mad bunch of dissident hooligans blowing the fuck out of innocent civilians) and I completely understand the Irish hanging on to their rebel songs and culture in remembrance. But however mild and however tame it may be, the Fields of Athenry is just another one of many politically charged anthems sung by and lauded by the Celtic support and is quite obviously going to be antagonistic to the Unionists. It's not about football, is it? Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it.
accessory Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 I imagine the Rangers fans would argue otherwise. I am, as you know, one of Foxes Talk's more left wing posters and I have to say I have a huge amount of respect for the true IRA (before the other half of FT get excited, think rabble of volunteers versus professional army for the liberation of an illegally occupied country - not mad bunch of dissident hooligans blowing the fuck out of innocent civilians) and I completely understand the Irish hanging on to their rebel songs and culture in remembrance. But however mild and however tame it may be, the Fields of Athenry is just another one of many politically charged anthems sung by and lauded by the Celtic support and is quite obviously going to be antagonistic to the Unionists. It's not about football, is it? Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it. Fields of Athenry is sang at many Irish football and rugby matches. Does it make those fans provos? Or is the song really about as threatening as Terry Wogan? By the way, which "true" IRA do you mean - the one that started the 1916 uprising, or the ones that fought against British troops (and occasionally civilians) from the 70s onwards? The latter version were equally as passionate about the "illegal" occupation of the six counties.
TheTrees Posted 10 July 2011 Posted 10 July 2011 Erm. Boys Of The Old Brigade, perhaps? Maybe that's why it's been banned from Parkhead, though it's still regularly heard at away games. since when is it sectarian to have republican views?
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