Sven gets full backing to sign more players

[Corky]

Yes, the dreaded vote of confidence.

[Guest MattP]

... and that doesn't happen overnight and not six games into a new season with an almost entirely new team.

It's about time there's more "undiluted support" from football club owners.

Totally agree, like I have said, he deserves the season, if we going to have to go through the rebuilding process we may as well give a new manager the summer to do it, it doesnt usually work mid-season. Others things you also have to consider as well are who you can actually bring in to replace someone, there is no point getting rid of someone if you have no plan whatsoever on the next stage, you could end up with a choice of far worse than what you have.

Not sure how much time they actually will give Sven though, if they were secretly pulling the strings last year at this time Sousa didnt get a while at all.

[demon_dog]

As is the usual case with replacing a manager, the owners could well be faced with a new managers cry for funds because the squad isn't good enough in his eyes.

This, that or the other player isn't capable of doing the job the new manager wants.

Or certain players don't get on with a new manager, the " I signed for Sven syndrome".

Let's face it being an owner can't be fun, the fans always want and expect more than they could possibly give.

Even M.U fans complain F.F.S.

I say lets just see the club come through it's transitional period, then look as to how we can build on what we have.

We have spent to many years now simply looking either over our shoulder at financial constraints, or looking on in envy at other clubs who have seemingly come good with new owners.

At least now we seem to have owners that really do care and do have the money to take us forward.

Let's hope that this is the case and we come to appreciate what the owners may do for our great club.

If this means more money for Sven then if the owners deem it necessary, so be it.

[sphericalfox]

Totally agree, like I have said, he deserves the season, if we going to have to go through the rebuilding process we may as well give a new manager the summer to do it, it doesnt usually work mid-season. Others things you also have to consider as well are who you can actually bring in to replace someone, there is no point getting rid of someone if you have no plan whatsoever on the next stage, you could end up with a choice of far worse than what you have.

Not sure how much time they actually will give Sven though, if they were secretly pulling the strings last year at this time Sousa didnt get a while at all.

Well that's the most positive thing I've read from you. Glad to see you coming round

[inckley fox]

Hello everyone,

Everyone seems to be swinging between two wildly extreme points of view - either, sack Sven now despite the fact that we're two wins from a reasonable start to the season, or give him the whole year which (based on our last 25 games under Sven) would see us end up comfortably in the bottom half of the table.

I think some of this may be people being provocative (ie the chap who said 'any intelligent person could see this'... or the kid who was saying O'Neill wasn't all that sharp a manager etc), which is probably far more interesting than being nice and diplomatic about things.

If not for next season, then for the year after we need to reduce our outgoings or we'll be deducted points. No sensible businessman in the world would give a manager eighteen months in a job when he was performing so badly, and when the consequences were so severe. Also this board will have a limit on what they're willing to spend before promotion. After promotion there'll be more. Sven would go down as the worst manager in our history if he wasted that first batch of money and lost us the opportunity to be a major top flight threat. They won't let that happen.

I don't think Sven should be sacked yet, but we have to consider the possibility. There are people who were calling for Sousa's head last year, but seem to think it'd be a knee jerk reaction to fire Sven (who's brought in more players than Pearson did in his entire reign, managed us through two separate transfer windows, nearly doubled our wage bill, spent more than all of our managers since Taylor added together AND been in the job for only three months less than Taylor, Levein and Kelly). The truth is that he has to deliver soon or he'll be rightly sent packing. I think some people's judgement is a little clouded by Sven's past record, but he's won nothing for 11 years and no signficant success at all in English football. In fact, some may say quite the opposite. Very few people were so patient with Harry Bassett who was far more recently successful at this level. I hope people's hunger for a bit of glamour at City hasn't got in the way of common sense.

Three other minor points (so much I've been bottling up for the past few weeks - sorry everyone!). (1) The chap being quoted here isn't a member of the board. If he is as involved as some people think, then yes, it's probably a vote of confidence. (2) Sousa only got eight games off these chaps! Sven's had nearly a year. And before we talk about his initial success, don't we usually say "give a manager three months minimum"? Well, what happened after three months, when he'd had the chance to largely dismantle Pearson's side? Shades of post-October 2001 Peter Taylor, I'm afraid. (3) A friend of mine - a Liverpool fan who knows all about second comings - said "isn't it pathetic that City fans are actually scared of O'Neill coming back in case he's not as good as before?" It probably is, but how many fans only want Sven out because we think we'll get O'Neill in his place? Would they be so keen on Paul Ince?

There's no way we can pretend Sven's doing a good job and the 'wait for it to click' argument barely works when he can't keep the same side or formation for two matches running. Either Sven learns fast - and he's bright enough for sure - or he goes. As for those who say we're not a big club and shouldn't expect to do so well, that really is an insult to the rest of the clubs in this league and to the 40/50% of our club's history which we've spent in the top flight.

Hope that's fairly diplomatic. And not too negative!

[somebum]

Sounds like the dreaded vote of confidence to me.

These people are ruthless businessmen and will fcuk off anyone who fails them.

[Guest Col city fan]

Well that's the most positive thing I've read from you. Glad to see you coming round

'Glad to see you coming round...'

That one line tells all... You'll shape views, distort stuff until you get people to think your way

At least MC wears his heart on his sleeve and shows some ' passion'.. You're more sinister and devious

[Guest MattP]

Well that's the most positive thing I've read from you. Glad to see you coming round

That's the same opinion I have always held, it wont stop my criticism towards him if he keeps making these strange decisions.

[sphericalfox]

'Glad to see you coming round...'

That one line tells all... You'll shape views, distort stuff until you get people to think your way

At least MC wears his heart on his sleeve and shows some ' passion'.. You're more sinister and devious

It was a mild wind up. I don't disagree with everything MattP has to say, but I'll post when I do agree, I don't post the opposite of those who are generally negative just because. I'd not have the time in the day to do anything else.