two footed lunges

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simple question for the older guys on here: have players always jumped into tackles, two feet first, with their studs showing? I'm 30, and I'm certain that twenty odd years ago very few players did it, maybe the likes of vinnie did, but not often. now every single week, someone like mills is lunging in recklessly 'tackling' and getting sent off. are referees just clamping down more or is it a modern phenomenon?

[Yojoe36]

Well I'm 19, so maybe not as "experienced"

However, I have noticed more cards and free-kicks given in the last couple of years. Probably just didn't notice it as much before, as the ref didn't pay much attention.

I do believe that tackles, like Mills' today, should come with a bigger punishment.

[Donut]

A two footed tackle is the tackle of a coward

Wouldnt be in the slightest bit bothered if he had the book thrown at him. In fact id actually applaud the FA for bringing in bigger bans.

[davieG]

I've been watching since the early 60's and I don't recall any 'professional' or dangerous fouling it was all about scoring goals in those days reflected by the formation that teams adopted 3 2 5 but like the behaviour and mentality of fans watching it all changed in the late 60's early 70s and football on and off the pitch became brutal.

[Kitchandro]

It sounds weird but it smacks of arrogance to me - they know it's not allowed, it's very clear that you can't do it, yet players seem to think they can get away with it and then complain when they are sent-off for it. Just don't do it FFS, there's no good reason to.

You talk about 30 years ago, but even 5-10 years ago I don't remember the amount of 2 footed tackles that we see today.

[Donut]

Its ridiculous and cowardly because

1) You wouldnt naturally tackle like that, jumping in. its premeditated

2) Youre trying to protect yourself in a 50/50 indicating you are a coward

3) Youre out of control as you make the tackle and are bound to follow through on the player, whether you get the ball or not

4) You are endangering one of your fellow pros

5) Despite the punishment they are about to receive, they do it anyway showing how thick the player is

6) They display a blatant disregard for the plight of their team mates

[StanSP]

For 2) - I'm pretty sure all players are told to go in full-blooded as you're more likely to cause injury to yourself if you go in weakly. It was a full-blooded challenge, for sure. A silly one in retrospect, and unnecessary one when he could have easily won the ball with a normal slide tackle. But obviously you want to protect yourself in a challenge with another player - from a young age you're taught to go in like you want to win the ball, and not half-heartedly. I don't get how going in for a challenge can make you a coward.

[Len Finsbury]

I'm 38 and sure that these two footed lunges are a relatively new thing.

Just watched Mills's again in slo mo on SSN and it does look really vicious, even if it wasn't meant to be.

Reminds me of a wrestling kick.

[Haydos]

I don't even get two-footed tackles.....surely you can stretch further for the ball if you're going in one footed?

[Donut]

For 2) - I'm pretty sure all players are told to go in full-blooded as you're more likely to cause injury to yourself if you go in weakly. It was a full-blooded challenge, for sure. A silly one in retrospect, and unnecessary one when he could have easily won the ball with a normal slide tackle. But obviously you want to protect yourself in a challenge with another player - from a young age you're taught to go in like you want to win the ball, and not half-heartedly. I don't get how going in for a challenge can make you a coward.

Its not the act of tackling that makes you a coward

A hard but fair challenge of course is perfectly fine

A two footed lunge is the act of a coward, for the reasons i described

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Its not the act of tackling that makes you a coward

A hard but fair challenge of course is perfectly fine

A two footed lunge is the act of a coward, for the reasons i described

exactly, i wouldn't even want to know the pressure per square inch exerted on someones leg bone when a fully grown man lands two-feet first on it.