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[MC Prussian]

1) Why are you so insistant that i wanted him out from day one when i have already explained that was not the case. You highlight the word foreign like i am xenophobic.

2) Sven wouldnt have took a job that wasn't an ambitious project, nor would he have taken one where there wasnt financial backing on a large scale because other than when managing international teams, he has always had a big budget to work with after initially cutting his teeth in management. ''Believing in other peoples vision''............so it would have been more appropriate if he was sold a vision of mid table mediocrity, in which case he could legitimtely say he was hard done by. When your rough ''patch'' extends to MONTHS, it no longer becomes a patch.

3) It hasnt been all talk: once again, the Thai's backed Sven fully in the transfer market, what more could they do? they allowed the manager to manage, they didnt interfere..... Of course, the Thai's are investors, and investor's expect a return. The return is the bigger revenue streams (footballing and commercial with king power) and success of the football club in the Premiership. Yet youre already talking like they want to cut their losses and jump ship. I think youre putting an enormous downer on what could be possibly be in the future the most successful periods in the clubs history.

4) Were ''sold an illusion''. Would you rather have some owners that dont invest anything and have an objective of cementing our place in the championship for the next decade or more? do you think that will pull in the fans? attract investment? attract talented managers to come and work here?

Taking on this job is what appealed to Eriksson, building something from scratch essentially, thinking he'd be backed fully by a wealthy consortium. He believed in the vision, yes. He thought he could do some good at this club - over a longer period of time.

He was as shocked as many other people when he heard about the sacking last Monday (as heard on RL when approached by Stringer). Besides the "rough patch" you're mentioning, didn't last for months - that's a willful exaggeration and there's no proof we couldn't have picked up after the Millwall game, if Sven had still been around.

We had a few games after the Derby match when the team itself played lacklustre, part of it down to the fact that certain players suddenly believed they were world-beaters ("We think we have the right to get promoted" à la Paul Gallagher on the radio commentary).

As for the "all talk", I was referring to the comments made by the Raksiaksorns that they fully believed in Eriksson and that they were looking forward to a successful collaboration. I didn't say they wanted to jump ship... yet.

But they've put all things into place, increased the market value of the club to make it more attractive as a package in case they have to sell quickly again.

Time will tell if we're really heading into "the most successful periods in the club's history" under the guidance of the Thais.

As of right now, we are indeed "sold an illusion". Sold the belief that this team would be going places, when clearly it isn't. Fans are already jumping the ship, be it because of ticket prices, because of the way the team has played lately or because they start to smell the coffee regarding our investors' true intentions.

"Operation Premier League" is a marketing tool, created in order to attract as much money and revenue for the time being as possible.

[Guest Col city fan]

Taking on this job is what appealed to Eriksson, building something from scratch essentially, thinking he'd be backed fully by a wealthy consortium. He believed in the vision, yes. He thought he could do some good at this club - over a longer period of time.

He was as shocked as many other people when he heard about the sacking last Monday (as heard on RL when approached by Stringer). Besides the "rough patch" you're mentioning, didn't last for months - that's a willful exaggeration and there's no proof we couldn't have picked up after the Millwall game, if Sven had still been around.

We had a few games after the Derby match when the team itself played lacklustre, part of it down to the fact that certain players suddenly believed they were world-beaters ("We think we have the right to get promoted" à la Paul Gallagher on the radio commentary).

As for the "all talk", I was referring to the comments made by the Raksiaksorns that they fully believed in Eriksson and that they were looking forward to a successful collaboration. I didn't say they wanted to jump ship... yet.

But they've put all things into place, increased the market value of the club to make it more attractive as a package in case they have to sell quickly again.

Time will tell if we're really heading into "the most successful periods in the club's history" under the guidance of the Thais.

As of right now, we are indeed "sold an illusion". Sold the belief that this team would be going places, when clearly it isn't. Fans are already jumping the ship, be it because of ticket prices, because of the way the team has played lately or because they start to smell the coffee regarding our investors' true intentions.

"Operation Premier League" is a marketing tool, created in order to attract as much money and revenue for the time being as possible.

I'm sorry mate but many would say the same thing about Sven

[MC Prussian]

I'm sorry mate but many would say the same thing about Sven

What - after managing the side to one of the best overall winning records in recent history?

[Guest MattP]

Taking on this job is what appealed to Eriksson, building something from scratch essentially, thinking he'd be backed fully by a wealthy consortium. He believed in the vision, yes. He thought he could do some good at this club - over a longer period of time.

He was as shocked as many other people when he heard about the sacking last Monday (as heard on RL when approached by Stringer). Besides the "rough patch" you're mentioning, didn't last for months - that's a willful exaggeration and there's no proof we couldn't have picked up after the Millwall game, if Sven had still been around.

We had a few games after the Derby match when the team itself played lacklustre, part of it down to the fact that certain players suddenly believed they were world-beaters ("We think we have the right to get promoted" à la Paul Gallagher on the radio commentary).

As for the "all talk", I was referring to the comments made by the Raksiaksorns that they fully believed in Eriksson and that they were looking forward to a successful collaboration. I didn't say they wanted to jump ship... yet.

But they've put all things into place, increased the market value of the club to make it more attractive as a package in case they have to sell quickly again.

Time will tell if we're really heading into "the most successful periods in the club's history" under the guidance of the Thais.

As of right now, we are indeed "sold an illusion". Sold the belief that this team would be going places, when clearly it isn't. Fans are already jumping the ship, be it because of ticket prices, because of the way the team has played lately or because they start to smell the coffee regarding our investors' true intentions.

"Operation Premier League" is a marketing tool, created in order to attract as much money and revenue for the time being as possible.

1. Sven is part of the "illusion" - soon as Notts County and Leicester picked up wealthy foriegn owners he was sniffinf around it, who could forget that humiliating Panorama where he is caught in a handshake and meeting with those dodgy North Koreans.

2. I very much doubt he was "as shocked as anyone" over his sacking when that morning he had told the squad he was lucky to be in a job.

3. I totally agree with you on the owners, like 95% of foriegn owners I think they are here for a quick buck, problem is Sven is also part of that, he follows around people like this to get his 2million a year contracts that only this sirt of ridiculous investment can bring, he wouldnt of touched us had we still had Martin George as the chairman. He follows money like a fly to shit.

[Guest MattP]

What - after managing the side to one of the best overall winning records in recent history?

You mean the best since our 2nd last manager?

Still not a patch on Nigel Pearson's or Brian Little's record though which is a tad embarassing given Sven's "achievements" and budget.

Nigel Pearson England 22 June 2008 29 June 2010 107 55 30 22 51.40

Sven-Göran Eriksson Sweden 4 October 2010 24 October 2011 55 24 14 17 43.64

What a Job Nige did.

[yorkie1999]

Whats the odds on our next manager will be sitting in the stands tonight?

[MC Prussian]

You mean the best since our 2nd last manager?

Still not a patch on Nigel Pearson's or Brian Little's record though which is a tad embarassing given Sven's "achievements" and budget.

Nigel Pearson England 22 June 2008 29 June 2010 107 55 30 22 51.40

Sven-Göran Eriksson Sweden 4 October 2010 24 October 2011 55 24 14 17 43.64

What a Job Nige did.

With twice the amount of games and one entire season in League One. Wow. Spectacular.

[Guest MattP]

With twice the amount of games and one entire season in League One. Wow. Spectacular.

Spending the entire time in a position higher than Sven's side despite having about 20% of his budget.

Superb.

[MC Prussian]

Spending the entire time in a position higher than Sven's side despite having about 20% of his budget.

Superb.

Only one season and that thanks to a team that he was able to form during one year in League One. A team that arguably had the highest wage bill in the league (maybe Leeds excluded).

And as for the smaller budget - that was under Milan "Tight A*rse" Mandaric, as we all remember correctly.

So much for your comparisons.

[Guest MattP]

Only one season and that thanks to a team that he was able to form during one year in League One. A team that arguably had the highest wage bill in the league (maybe Leeds excluded).

And as for the smaller budget - that was under Milan "Tight A*rse" Mandaric, as we all remember correctly.

So much for your comparisons.

Ermmm ok....

Highest wage budget in the league apart from "maybe" Leeds?? I take it you diverted your eyes from Cardiff, QPR, Middlesborough and West Brom then?

Maybe our players were on more than Barton, Nolan, Collochini, Jonas etc etc at Newcastle as well?

This defence of Sven is fcuking embarrassing MC. Seriously.

[blueredswed]

I think he was walking away at his own accord anyway, a nice big juicy contract upcoming after Euro 2012.

Well I wasnt chanting for anything, but I'd imagine those who were wouldnt be too displeased as they were the ones employed by the "evil-doer".

I don´t think he gone by himself....

Perhaps a question do you think we will go..... and perhaps Sven say not sure and after that .....

[MC Prussian]

Ermmm ok....

Highest wage budget in the league apart from "maybe" Leeds?? I take it you diverted your eyes from Cardiff, QPR, Middlesborough and West Brom then?

Maybe our players were on more than Barton, Nolan, Collochini, Jonas etc etc at Newcastle as well?

This defence of Sven is fcuking embarrassing MC. Seriously.

I was actually referring to our budget under Pearson in League One.

But hey ho, it's okay. Everyone gets something wrong sometimes.

I don't think my stance here is embarrassing. I think it's well worth my time and effort.

Otherwise I wouldn't care a single bit.

[Guest MattP]

No worries. League one he did have a top 2 budget, and we hardly spent a game outside the top 2. Mission accomplished.

Enjoy the game tonight? Been a while since we sent a side out suited to this division away from home to attack.