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[MC Prussian]

I still expect the play offs, happy?

I think Soton and West Ham may be long gone already.

Of course I blame this on Sven, his squad, his players, look at Big Sam, walks in in the summer and just knows what to do, not a chance in hell of him sat there after 12 games saying "we're only this and this off this and this". He knows what to do.

Did Sam Allardyce also have to accompany 12, 13 new players into his squad? Most of the Hammers players already knew each other for ages before Allardyce walked in.

All he has to do is make sure the machine is oiled properly each game.

Blaming Sven is a very short-sighted attitude and for the Sven haters simply the last resort.

The fact that you still blame the man shows to me that you have no idea what consistency does in football.

[Guest MattP]

Did Sam Allardyce also have to accompany 12, 13 new players into his squad? Most of the Hammers players already knew each other for ages before Allardyce walked in.

All he has to do is make sure the machine is oiled properly each game.

Blaming Sven is a very short-sighted attitude and for the Sven haters simply the last resort.

The fact that you still blame the man shows to me that you have no idea what consistency does in football.

and whose fault is bringing in 12?!!!! Players?

Did we really need 6 centre midfielders? 2 new right backs? SSL?

Pathetic argument to be honest.

Ironically the one he should of purchased the might of saved his job he didnt in CMS? Hence why he was still looking round at his 4th/5th choices at the end of September despite having 4 months to get who he required.......

[MC Prussian]

and whose fault is bringing in 12?!!!! Players?

Did we really need 6 centre midfielders? 2 new right backs? SSL?

Pathetic argument to be honest.

Ironically the one he should of purchased the might of saved his job he didnt in CMS? Hence why he was still looking round at his 4th/5th choices at the end of September despite having 4 months to get who he required.......

Sven was given the money to buy as many players as he wanted.

He opted for (alleged) quality. Whether the fact that some of these players are still underperforming is his fault, is questionable. That's got more to do with individual motivation.

Also, at least two so-called "established" players have done everything in their powers to put in sub-standard performances.

The reality is much more complicated than you'd like the world to believe.

Then again, show me a team that got 12, 13 new players in and which saw all of them perform tremendously as a result of that.

As for the 6 centre midfielders - ask Sven or the Thais. I think in terms of squad rotation, it was the right thing to do. But apparently, some players in that department don't take the principle of squad rotation very well.

As for CMS and "he would have saved us", all speculation. He turned us down because he thought he'd be more of a centerpiece in attack whilst playing for Brighton. He's down there. Chapter closed. Get over it.

And there's not one player that can save a club single-handedly. That's foolish. Football is a team game, not a sport of individuals. But that's what I've been seeing a lot at Leicester City matches recently.

Beckford was on Sven's and Neville's radar for quite a while before we signed him (as Neville admitted himself during one previous RL Phone-In).

[Guest MattP]

He's down there. Chapter closed. Get over it.

Oh the Irony :crylaugh:

[Guest Col city fan]

Sven was given the money to buy as many players as he wanted.

He opted for (alleged) quality. Whether the fact that some of these players are still underperforming is his fault, is questionable. That's got more to do with individual motivation.

Also, at least two so-called "established" players have done everything in their powers to put in sub-standard performances.

The reality is much more complicated than you'd like the world to believe.

Then again, show me a team that got 12, 13 new players in and which saw all of them perform tremendously as a result of that.

As for the 6 centre midfielders - ask Sven or the Thais. I think in terms of squad rotation, it was the right thing to do. But apparently, some players in that department don't take the principle of squad rotation very well.

As for CMS and "he would have saved us", all speculation. He turned us down because he thought he'd be more of a centerpiece in attack whilst playing for Brighton. He's down there. Chapter closed. Get over it.

And there's not one player that can save a club single-handedly. That's foolish. Football is a team game, not a sport of individuals. But that's what I've been seeing a lot at Leicester City matches recently.

Beckford was on Sven's and Neville's radar for quite a while before we signed him (as Neville admitted himself during one previous RL Phone-In).

Why are you doing this now?

We all know you liked Sven and you have your reasons for this, like those who wanted a change do too

Whats the point of doing what you're doing?

What are your views on the other possibles?

[Daggers]

After his fist game...

Sick cvnts like that deserve the sack

[MC Prussian]

Oh the Irony :crylaugh:

You're saying CMS would've been a better option that sticking to Sven? A single player?

5 goals in 14 matches. Hasn't scored in 5. Not overly impressive.

[Guest MattP]

You're saying CMS would've been a better option that sticking to Sven? A single player?

5 goals in 14 matches. Hasn't scored in 5. Not overly impressive.

Nope.

To be honest I think Sven was going had he signed him or not, like you say, we have talented players, he just seemed unable to get them to play well consistently and he didnt cover all areas of the squad to play certain systems. Combined with negative tactics thats a recipe for disaster.

[Donut]

I really like the way MC Prussian glossed over what i was saying on my previous post. It was amusing.

He quoted me when i said ''if promotion realistically was a bridge too far this season''. What that sentence meant was, OF COURSE the aim of this season was the top 2, at the very least top 6. But the circumstances under which the previous manager left the squad, in terms of its imbalance in certain positions and the defecit in points means that its an uphill task.

This uphill task has been created by the poor performance of the previous manager.

I therefore said that, with the likelihood of the new manager maybe being given some funds in January, a good opportunity exists for whoever comes in to a) inspire the already good squad to a playoff run or b) lay things in place for next season. After all, its looking more and more likely that the top 2 are breaking away.

Frankly Sven didnt do anything in the job that i couldn't have done myself: Child in a sweet shop spending, tactical naivety, poor attention to developing squad bonding and team ethic. Poor.

[Guest Col city fan]

I really like the way MC Prussian glossed over what i was saying on my previous post. It was amusing.

He quoted me when i said ''if promotion realistically was a bridge too far this season''. What that sentence meant was, OF COURSE the aim of this season was the top 2, at the very least top 6. But the circumstances under which the

previous manager left the squad, in terms of its imbalance in certain positions and the defecit in points means that its an uphill task.

This uphill task has been created by the poor performance of the previous manager.

I therefore said that, with the likelihood of the new manager

maybe being given some funds in January, a good opportunity exists for whoever comes in to a) inspire the already good squad to a playoff run or b) lay things in place for next season. After all, its looking more and more likely that the top 2 are breaking away.

Frankly Sven didnt do anything in the job that i couldn't have done myself: Child in a sweet shop spending, tactical naivety, poor attention to developing squad bonding and

team ethic. Poor.

The simple fact is that MC Prussian is currently trying to gloss over anything that could possibly be construed of criticism of Sven.

Agree with you completely.. Why on earth can't a new manager take this squad by the scruff of its neck and realise the goal within this season or certainly the next

Absolutely no reason to be anything other than hopeful..

Said it before and will say it again.. This defence of a manager that hasn't won anything for over a decade has proven barmy for too long.

We gave him a chance, the owners weren't convinced..

End of story.. Time to move on

[MC Prussian]

The simple fact is that MC Prussian is currently trying to gloss over anything that could possibly be construed of criticism of Sven.

Agree with you completely.. Why on earth can't a new manager take this squad by the scruff of its neck and realise the goal within this season or certainly the next

Absolutely no reason to be anything other than hopeful..

Said it before and will say it again.. This defence of a manager that hasn't won anything for over a decade has proven barmy for too long.

We gave him a chance, the owners weren't convinced..

End of story.. Time to move on

No, you didn't. He didn't have a chance from the start because a certain fans' fraction could never warm up to Sven-Göran Eriksson in the first place.

Just because.

Besides, I have criticised Sven in the past, but I've never been part of the group that slagged him off the day he got the job.

[Guest MattP]

No, you didn't. He didn't have a chance from the start because a certain fans' fraction could never warm up to Sven-Göran Eriksson in the first place.

Just because.

Besides, I have criticised Sven in the past, but I've never been part of the group that slagged him off the day he got the job.

What the ****?

Are you pissed? Never had a chance from the start? Remember when we were flying last year and everyone was so far up his arse you couldn't see them, the it just exploded in Feb and its been cack ever since.

He still had somne fans singing his name at the Millwall game, not many of our managers have got that having won 9 out of the previous 30.

[MC Prussian]

I really like the way MC Prussian glossed over what i was saying on my previous post. It was amusing.

He quoted me when i said ''if promotion realistically was a bridge too far this season''. What that sentence meant was, OF COURSE the aim of this season was the top 2, at the very least top 6. But the circumstances under which the previous manager left the squad, in terms of its imbalance in certain positions and the defecit in points means that its an uphill task.

This uphill task has been created by the poor performance of the previous manager.

I therefore said that, with the likelihood of the new manager maybe being given some funds in January, a good opportunity exists for whoever comes in to a) inspire the already good squad to a playoff run or b) lay things in place for next season. After all, its looking more and more likely that the top 2 are breaking away.

Frankly Sven didnt do anything in the job that i couldn't have done myself: Child in a sweet shop spending, tactical naivety, poor attention to developing squad bonding and team ethic. Poor.

What deficit in points? The issues other teams have as well in this division? There are only a few squads more or less "balanced" and they're the ones who have been playing with the same setup consistently. None of which has been the case with Leicester City under Sven and the Raksiaksorns plus their consortium buddies.

And again, you're slagging off a manager after he got the sack 13 league games into the season. If you wanted to be fair, you could've at least waited until the end of the season or let's say Christmas.

No, you and others wanted him gone the day he became manager, never wanted him to succeed - always EXPECTED and DEMANDED that he'd do.

Sucked into the same bullsh*t the owners have fed to so many people, making them believe that we'd walk this league. Which is laughable.

Anyone who thought we'd get a fully-functional team together by the snap of someone's fingers is still seriously deluded.

Fans have bought into it, players have bought into it, the media have bought into it and are regurtitating the same lame one-liners week in, week out.. Nothing short of delusional.

But it did the trick. Some fans are easily gullible. They believe. They want to believe. Yeah, I wanted to believe. That belief has somewhat faded.

We had a great chance of stability for a club that was the synonym for the opposite for at least a decade prior to the takeover.

The owners pulled the wool over almost everybody's face when they stated how delighted they were having Sven at the helm and that it was an investment in the future.

As we've found out last Monday, it was all talk.

My biggest disappointment isn't even the departure of Sven, it's the fact that Leicester City has just become just another example of how a football club has been bought by foreign investors, turned upside down with the aim of creating as much revenue as possible.

They will go through manager after manager until it somehow works out. Until then, they will leave many fans frustrated and abandoning the ship, replaced by happy clappers who don't boo, don't protest, don't sing, don't create atmosphere.

I don't know how much longer my love for this club can continue under this regime. Call it naïve, call it simple.

But there will be a day when I'm outta love. As much as it hurts to say it.

[Guest MattP]

You do realise his contract was up at year end yeah?

I agree on you with the foreign owners mind, Ive almost given up campaigning agaisnt it though, impossible now, everyone demands it with no consideration for the future. Sven is part of all that nonsense though.

[MC Prussian]

You do realise his contract was up at year end yeah?

I agree on you with the foreign owners mind, Ive almost given up campaigning agaisnt it though, impossible now, everyone demands it with no consideration for the future. Sven is part of all that nonsense though.

And maybe up for renewal had he been given more time to establish a winning streak.

You do also realize you fell for the same talk like many others - believing that Sven-Göran Eriksson was the main responsible, the sole scapegoat for the recent results?

Not the players, not the owners' little secret gamble on a replacement manager, the insecurity as a result thereof (maybe some players heard it through the grapevine in advance and lost all respect as a consequence)?

How does it feel being part of a horde chanting the evil-doer's name when the main culprits are found somewhere else?

[Donut]

What deficit in points? The issues other teams have as well in this division? There are only a few squads more or less "balanced" and they're the ones who have been playing with the same setup consistently. None of which has been the case with Leicester City under Sven and the Raksiaksorns plus their consortium buddies.

And again, you're slagging off a manager after he got the sack 13 league games into the season. If you wanted to be fair, you could've at least waited until the end of the season or let's say Christmas.

No, you and others wanted him gone the day he became manager, never wanted him to succeed - always EXPECTED and DEMANDED that he'd do.Sucked into the same bullsh*t the owners have fed to so many people, making them believe that we'd walk this league. Which is laughable.

Anyone who thought we'd get a fully-functional team together by the snap of someone's fingers is still seriously deluded.

Fans have bought into it, players have bought into it, the media have bought into it and are regurtitating the same lame one-liners week in, week out.. Nothing short of delusional.

But it did the trick. Some fans are easily gullible. They believe. They want to believe. Yeah, I wanted to believe. That belief has somewhat faded.

We had a great chance of stability for a club that was the synonym for the opposite for at least a decade prior to the takeover.

The owners pulled the wool over almost everybody's face when they stated how delighted they were having Sven at the helm and that it was an investment in the future.

As we've found out last Monday, it was all talk.

My biggest disappointment isn't even the departure of Sven, it's the fact that Leicester City has just become just another example of how a football club has been bought by foreign investors, turned upside down with the aim of creating as much revenue as possible.

They will go through manager after manager until it somehow works out. Until then, they will leave many fans frustrated and abandoning the ship, replaced by happy clappers who don't boo, don't protest, don't sing, don't create atmosphere.

I don't know how much longer my love for this club can continue under this regime. Call it naïve, call it simple.

But there will be a day when I'm outta love. As much as it hurts to say it.

1) Unless you can see into the future, why would you want a manager gone the moment he comes here? he could be the most successful manager in the history of the club. Some people, unlike you, prefer to keep an open mind and let things develop for a period of time before we can make a reasonable assessment.

2) Sven wouldnt have been naive enough to think that he would be joining this club and a legitimate target was to bumble along as we were doing with no real signs of things changing.

3) This paragraph makes no sense at all because Sven had no constraints whatsoever to work under. The owners provided him everything he could want and more to do the job he was brought in to do. Turned upside down? the Thai's have made a considerable investment into IMPROVING our club into one with the potential to get to the premier league. You dont go through managers for the sake of it.

[Guest MattP]

And maybe up for renewal had he been given more time to establish a winning streak.

You do also realize you fell for the same talk like many others - believing that Sven-Göran Eriksson was the main responsible, the sole scapegoat for the recent results?

Not the players, not the owners' little secret gamble on a replacement manager, the insecurity as a result thereof (maybe some players heard it through the grapevine in advance and lost all respect as a consequence)?

How does it feel being part of a horde chanting the evil-doer's name when the main culprits are found somewhere else?

I think he was walking away at his own accord anyway, a nice big juicy contract upcoming after Euro 2012.

Well I wasnt chanting for anything, but I'd imagine those who were wouldnt be too displeased as they were the ones employed by the "evil-doer".

[MC Prussian]

1) Unless you can see into the future, why would you want a manager gone the moment he comes here? he could be the most successful manager in the history of the club. Some people, unlike you, prefer to keep an open mind and let things develop for a period of time before we can make a reasonable assessment.

2) Sven wouldnt have been naive enough to think that he would be joining this club and a legitimate target was to bumble along as we were doing with no real signs of things changing.

3) This paragraph makes no sense at all because Sven had no constraints whatsoever to work under. The owners provided him everything he could want and more to do the job he was brought in to do. Turned upside down? the Thai's have made a considerable investment into IMPROVING our club into one with the potential to get to the premier league. You dont go through managers for the sake of it.

1) Wait, now you're saying you've got an open mind when you slag off a (foreign) manager from the start? You let things develop for a period of time? You wanted him to fail from the start, the guy never had a chance. "Reasonable assessment". More like biased on your side, like I am (allegedly) on mine.

2) You've got to ask Sven about that. Every team goes through rough patches, but some of our fans have no patience left whatsoever and so do the owners. What real signs of things changing do you need? Passion, commitment? Why is it still only the manager's fault when things in those department don't click (instantly)?

Maybe because the squad itself is worth much more as an asset than a manager who can be replaced easily, like a pawn. Make no mistake, being a football manager is probably one of the most unthankful jobs in the world. Yeah, Sven's probably got himself a nice sum as a consequence of getting fired, but did he really want to leave?

I guess Sven really is a nice guy and a bit on the naïve side himself, maybe in terms of believing in other people's vision. One could say he fell for the same talk like many of us did. What if... he was only approached to do the job in order to sell the new brand Leicester City FC? So to increase the market value? Hey, Eriksson's a well-known name throughout the world of football, brought in to attract fans and smaller investors from around the globe to join the hype...

3) Why doesn't it make sense? The owners declared their commitment together with Sven, then sack him 13 games into his first full season with the club. Is there a logical consequence for this decision or is the dismay amongst some fans simply used as a good excuse to pull the plug?

As for Sven having no constraints at all, that's all speculation. I can only assume the owners gave him free reign so that they couldn't be blamed in case of a (minor) blip. The owners have invested in the market value first and foremost, improved the saleability of the club. But all talk and fancy new pitches won't get us into the Premier League, Donut.

They simply mean it makes it easier to sell us again shouldn't we reach that target, so that the circus starts anew. New owners, new managers, new players and the same old talk about promotion, trying to keep the hopes up high - in particular amongst those fans who've seen Leicester play in the Premier League before.

What we're sold here is an illusion, not a game of football.

Wake up.

[Donut]

1) Wait, now you're saying you've got an open mind when you slag off a (foreign) manager from the start? You let things develop for a period of time? You wanted him to fail from the start, the guy never had a chance. "Reasonable assessment". More like biased on your side, like I am (allegedly) on mine.

2) You've got to ask Sven about that. Every team goes through rough patches, but some of our fans have no patience left whatsoever and so do the owners. What real signs of things changing do you need? Passion, commitment? Why is it still only the manager's fault when things in those department don't click (instantly)?

Maybe because the squad itself is worth much more as an asset than a manager who can be replaced easily, like a pawn. Make no mistake, being a football manager is probably one of the most unthankful jobs in the world. Yeah, Sven's probably got himself a nice sum as a consequence of getting fired, but did he really want to leave?

Yeah, I guess Sven's a nice guy and a bit on the naïve side himself, maybe in terms of believing in other people's vision. One could say he fell for the same talk like many of us did.

3) Why doesn't it make sense? The owners declared their commitment together with Sven, then sack him 13 games into his first full season with the club. Is there a logical consequence for this decision or is the dismay amongst some fans simply used as a good excuse to pull the plug?

As for Sven having no constraints at all, that's all speculation. I can only assume the owners gave him free reign so that they couldn't be blamed in case of a (minor) blip. The owners have invested in the market value first and foremost, improved the saleability of the club. But all talk and fancy new pitches won't get us into the Premier League, Donut.

They simply mean it makes it easier to sell us again shouldn't we reach that target, so that the circus starts anew. New owners, new managers, new players and the same old talk about promotion, trying to keep the hopes up high - in particular amongst those fans who've seen Leicester play in the Premier League before.

What we're sold here is an illusion, not a game of football.

Wake up.

1) Why are you so insistant that i wanted him out from day one when i have already explained that was not the case. You highlight the word foreign like i am xenophobic.

2) Sven wouldnt have took a job that wasn't an ambitious project, nor would he have taken one where there wasnt financial backing on a large scale because other than when managing international teams, he has always had a big budget to work with after initially cutting his teeth in management. ''Believing in other peoples vision''............so it would have been more appropriate if he was sold a vision of mid table mediocrity, in which case he could legitimtely say he was hard done by. When your rough ''patch'' extends to MONTHS, it no longer becomes a patch.

3) It hasnt been all talk: once again, the Thai's backed Sven fully in the transfer market, what more could they do? they allowed the manager to manage, they didnt interfere..... Of course, the Thai's are investors, and investor's expect a return. The return is the bigger revenue streams (footballing and commercial with king power) and success of the football club in the Premiership. Yet youre already talking like they want to cut their losses and jump ship. I think youre putting an enormous downer on what could be possibly be in the future the most successful periods in the clubs history.

4) Were ''sold an illusion''. Would you rather have some owners that dont invest anything and have an objective of cementing our place in the championship for the next decade or more? do you think that will pull in the fans? attract investment? attract talented managers to come and work here?

[Raj]

Im bored of who the next manager will be because in a years time we will be asking the same thing

[Donut]

Im bored of who the next manager will be because in a years time we will be asking the same thing

Im more bored of the continual debate over Sven's sacking of which we will always agree to differ, and i am more than concerned that this will prejudice the chances of progress under the new manager unless people move on.

[Raj]

Sven???

Never heard of him.

[ozleicester]

What i find most intriging, is that no-one has said, lets give the new guy 2 years, no-one has said lets look at how he plays, or how he picks the side, or the lets look at each of the games and results and decide if hes had some luck or not.

Im afraid we are all sucked into the same mindset that the owners and most of the league now are, that the only thing that matters is results, dont get me wrong, results are the bottom line but there is more to it than just the points tally. Ive read of Hammers fans complaining about the route1 football... well , what do you want, premier league or quality football?

Based on his previous results with us almost everyones preferred choice would be MON, and yet in the current setup, he WOULD NOT have survived to become the "legend" he has.

[STUHILL]

If it is someone like Hughes or a similar big name, then I expect at least until the end of the season and then similar to Sven, will get 15 games in the next to be in the top 3 or so of he's gone no matter who it is.

If its someone like Clark and a gamble, then I think a lot less time. Maybe not long after the January transfer window if we are below mid table

All depends on results though so who knows!!

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Anyone that is not MON best start well or the boo boys will start up after 3 games. I can see who ever it is not lasting the season if we do not get up challenging for at least the play offs. If they do well then they may have a long term future with the club although it would not suprise me if they are somewhat unknowns they may be discarded in favour for a bigger name after getting us up.

Prove me wrong Top. Pick a decent manager and stick with him. W used to have one called Nigel Pearson but he was forced out by MM or was it at you guys requests? Either way not all great footballers make great managers (see Paulo Sousa).