paulsherwood1 Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 It took all of 24 seconds to sum up our season. A tenacious Ipswich tear through our powder puff midfield to put our defence under unnecessary pressure. This was repeated 3 minutes later as our cumbersome centre half let the ball bounce in his own box. Cue 60 odd minutes of huffing and puffing with no creativity for our two front men. We desperately need a creative spark, Dyer is not good enough for this league, Wellens has lost the plot, Gallacher is fine with good players around him, and Abe is average. We need a couple of decent midfield and wide players along with at least 2 strikers to give us a boost. Sadly this year looks like a carbon copy of last year, a sloppy start, sacked manager and losing touch by January - cue desperation signings and a second half of the season playing an impossible catch up. We deserve better than this.
MikeyT Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 You can't have that as a title for this thread, as Christmas is now over.
FantasticMrFox Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Well it's going to take until next Chrismas at this rate!...
Libertine Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 We deserve better than this. Most of our fans don't.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 It took all of 24 seconds to sum up our season. A tenacious Ipswich tear through our powder puff midfield to put our defence under unnecessary pressure. This was repeated 3 minutes later as our cumbersome centre half let the ball bounce in his own box. Cue 60 odd minutes of huffing and puffing with no creativity for our two front men. We desperately need a creative spark, Dyer is not good enough for this league, Wellens has lost the plot, Gallacher is fine with good players around him, and Abe is average. We need a couple of decent midfield and wide players along with at least 2 strikers to give us a boost. Sadly this year looks like a carbon copy of last year, a sloppy start, sacked manager and losing touch by January - cue desperation signings and a second half of the season playing an impossible catch up. We deserve better than this. Yes I've been saying since the start of the season that we need some midfield steel.. They are too lightweight and the opposition can run through them at will. However, their goal today came from defensive dilly dallying, mainly from Bamba. To say that we didn't serve the strikers is simply wrong.. Gally put some great balls into the box first half and NEITHER STRIKER was anywhere near anything... I looked at the clock when we had our first real chance... 54 minutes... Again from Nugent. The problem is not only lack of supply. Beckford did not have a single shot all game.... Or a header, or a half chance.... Nothing...We deserve better than this rubbish. How this team needs a sniffer.. A 'fox in the box'... It's clear for all to see, or for those who want to see...
acooling08 Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Our midfield is one of the least creative in the League. Our strikers are fed scraps and expected to score. The only service Nugent got today was long balls to chase down towards the corner flag. There never seems to be the final incisive ball.
dog_4 Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Nigels inherited 6 central midfielders! obviously spirit weren't be good with 4 midfielders walking round with a long face because there not playing! hence why fernandes and johnson are going back! in Jan we'll have 4 midfielders! ie better balance! then 2 new wingers in january so we'll have 4 wingers instead of 2 and will give options on the bench! then we'll have waghorn back and a new striker coming in giving nigel 2 options to come on for beckford and nugent instead of having no options on the bench for upfront! the issue atm is no options on the bench and disgruntled players moping around because there's too many for one position! start of february we'll start flying! but it may be too late by then
Guest BlueBrett Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 "too lightweight" - the newest and best of all the vague cliches to come in vogue.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 "too lightweight" - the newest and best of all the vague cliches to come in vogue. Why is this vague? Too lightweight.... Not tough enough in the tackle, not good enough in the air.. Not quick enough...defensively over- run Sums up our midfield at the mo
Happy Fox Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Why is this vague? Too lightweight.... Not tough enough in the tackle, not good enough in the air.. Not quick enough...defensively over- run Sums up our midfield at the mo As it isn't just the midfield that needs addressing our strike force.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Why is this vague? Too lightweight.... Not tough enough in the tackle, not good enough in the air.. Not quick enough...defensively over- run Sums up our midfield at the mo think you've answered your own question. it's vague because it has no singular specific meaning. one step up from saying 'there was something missing'.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 think you've answered your own question. it's vague because it has no singular specific meaning. one step up from saying 'there was something missing'. Fooks sake! What are you a linguist? You know what I meant. Next time I'll get my thesaurus out
bluearmyfox23 Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 I would love to see us to try to get a player in the mould of someone like Cattermole someone with steel and never shy's away from a tackle?!
Happy Fox Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 It is all well and good saying we need a new midfield but will NP get rid of the underachieving midfielder's on our books and replace I would hazard a guess and say probably not.
Kitchandro Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 It took all of 24 seconds to sum up our season. A tenacious Ipswich tear through our powder puff midfield to put our defence under unnecessary pressure. This was repeated 3 minutes later as our cumbersome centre half let the ball bounce in his own box. Cue 60 odd minutes of huffing and puffing with no creativity for our two front men. We desperately need a creative spark, Dyer is not good enough for this league, Wellens has lost the plot, Gallacher is fine with good players around him, and Abe is average. We need a couple of decent midfield and wide players along with at least 2 strikers to give us a boost. Sadly this year looks like a carbon copy of last year, a sloppy start, sacked manager and losing touch by January - cue desperation signings and a second half of the season playing an impossible catch up. We deserve better than this. Couldn't agree more. I'm fed up of people saying 'start Danns, start Johnson' etc, it is plainly obvious hat Sven didn't buy the right players in the summer, a lot of us could see it at the time and if those that didn't can't see it now then I despair. Neither Beckford and Howard have looked capable of having an impact and Vassell is out for the season, so I am starting to think we need a striker or two.
Thracian Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Sadly our problems are much more far-reaching than just in midfield. In fact for all the money spent in good faith by our new owners I can't see we've made much onfield progress at all. We don't even seem to have a footballing blueprint - any sort of plan that we're working on. Signings have been made with little apparent reference to where they fit into the intended big picture. The players in a team have to compliment one another but I don't think we have a single partnership anywhere let alone a whole team in tandem. I really would love to know the sort of thinking that brought in some of our signings because I just can't see any logic to them...and that has to change. Every player must be seen to serve a purpose.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Sadly our problems are much more far-reaching than just in midfield. In fact for all the money spent in good faith by our new owners I can't see we've made much onfield progress at all. We don't even seem to have a footballing blueprint - any sort of plan that we're working on. Signings have been made with little apparent reference to where they fit into the intended big picture. The players in a team have to compliment one another but I don't think we have a single partnership anywhere let alone a whole team in tandem. I really would love to know the sort of thinking that brought in some of our signings because I just can't see any logic to them...and that has to change. Every player must be seen to serve a purpose. I could not agree more... For me there are 'partnership' deficiencies right across the pitch, but the biggest one, in my eyes anyway is the one between the strikers.. Like centre backs need to move around as if they were on the same pivot, leaving little space between the two if them, so do strikers to some extent. If they play together, near each other, they can begin to understand each others game and, most importantly, CREATE CHANCES FOR EACH OTHER.. This was most apparent with the Howard/Fryatt pairing... Neither player particularly fantastic in their own right, but they learnt to play off each other... Beckford and Nuge have no idea of each others position in the final third. Yesterday, for example, Beckford found himself playing wide on the left for much of the second half, nowhere near his strike partner.... The gap between the two of them was so big that they could not play off each other. The result of this? Nuge had his first chance in the 54th minute of the game and Beckford did not have a single shot on goal... Not one chance or even half chance did Beckford make for himself or his strike partner make for him. This needs addressing..... It is not all about a lack of supply to the top two. To argue that is to continue to be blinkered and to continue to lay the sole blame for our lack of chances created by the midfielders.. Even when the ball does come through to either Nuge or Beckford they are so far apart that they play no football between themselves, such that any chances they have are usually ones in which they are isolated and have to produce something themselves. Lack of partnerships on the pitch? Abso fookin lutely.... But believe me, unless the strikers begin to play closer to each other and understand each others game this team is going nowhere fast. Great post again Thrac....
smudgerfox Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Surely the mistake is to believe that there are four players out there who are Championship/Premiership standard who we can just go and pick up from other clubs and who will solve our problem. As Sven waved the chequebook to such embarrassingly little effect in the summer - it is surely clear that any "complete" midfielder is not going to be available to play for LCFC - they're going to be playing in the Premiership or at the very least with the Championship front runners. We are going to get the players with flaws and we either have to work round those flaws or improve the players so their flaws are less relevant. So Gallagher - great ball player, terrible tracking back, non-exsistent in the air, Abe - great little tackler and tidy passer but on the whole not a match winner and easily pushed off the ball in defensive positions plus nothing in the air so no protection for the central defenders, Johnson clearly classy but ultimately ineffectual, Wellens - heart in the right place but sometimes lacks the finesse and intelligence to make the best of situations, Dyer, fast, decent dribbler but poor cross and final pass..King at his best a prolific goalscorer but unsensational in all other aspects of midfield play..Fernandes - sometimes brilliant, sometimes non-existent and apparently here because of Sven, we need to find the three/four/five whose abilities complement each other, whose shortcomings are compensated for by the other's strengths...
leicesterseddon Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 "too lightweight" - the newest and best of all the vague cliches to come in vogue. Cliché it may be - but wouldn't you agree that every cliché contains at least a grain of truth? The penalty we gave away yesterday at the start of the game was a perfect example of this - all opposition players have to do is run at us and we crumble more often than not. It happens every single time we play against a team who have players prepared to run at us...we're just lucky there aren't more of those players in this division. We need a new midfield to stand any chance of promotion (via the play-offs). There's enough there to keep us in mid-table, but nothing better than that if we're honest.
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