Big changes NOT required in the summer....

[marbelladave]

I still don't see a squad who are Ill at ease with itself??

I see a squad of players who are trying very hard currently.

I don't agree with you Dave on this. You still seem to insist that the squad are squabbling all the time.

Dannsy, for instance, i think got sent off on Sat because he was 'trying too hard' and made a challenge he shouldnt sensibly have.

Beckford is constantly putting in a shift at the mo.

Are you now coming to games? Cos if you aren't seeing a squad of players who are putting in the effort I don't think you can be?

I'm still not going to games so I am not really in a position to say much on our more recent performances, we appeared to put up a decent fight on saturday but that said we let in three at Blackpool and those woeful performance at Bristol and Reading are only a few weeks ago.

It's not as simple as that. I've stated this in other posts. Look how new our squad is as whole. They aren't a team yet, that takes time, maybe a couple of seasons with a core group of players when there have been as many changes as we've had. It's completely different to having a few new players join over the summer. The last 2 seasons have seen a ridiculous turnover of playing staff and we need some consistency, some stability so this core of players can form some sort of identity, team cohesion and an obvious mentality.

Disagree entirely. Most of our matchday squad have been here since last summer and the core of King, Wellens, Dyer and Howard have been here since NFP's first spell......

I agree... With a couple or three additions in key positions. A squad can benefit from a freshening up, some more competition for places but not a complete overhaul. Twould just be going back to the drawing board again IMO.

I appreciate that this is probably the majority view on here, I just happen to disagree. Nothing unusual in that......

[Haydos]

Disagree entirely. Most of our matchday squad have been here since last summer and the core of King, Wellens, Dyer and Howard have been here since NFP's first spell......

a) Yeah, they have been here since last summer, but they're basically a brand new team, some signings take a good season to bed in, this is most of a new squad. If you're being realistic it's going to take a lot longer.

b) Did you not see the stat from the weekend? In Hobbs and Fryatt, Hull had more Leicester players starting from last season than Leicester did.

c) How can you call those a core? Howard has about 90 minutes worth of game time all season, King has been out for months, pretty sure you don't rate Wellens anyway and Dyer has been on the bench a lot of the time. That's ignoring the fact that that is only 4 players. We need a proper, established set. Schmeichel, Konchesky, at least 1 reliable, consistent centre back, Danns, King, another consistent centre mid, Nugent, Beckford, Dyer, another winger. I'm talking about pretty much a full starting line up. Peripheral players will come and go but having a core of 4 players? When everyone else is interchangeable? That's never going to work.

[marbelladave]

It is the players' fault. They need to take responsibility. There was huge hype at the beginning of the season and they didn't deal with the pressure. You only have to look at the recent history of these players to know they're not bad players though and I think they're more than capable of being a team challenging for honours next season.

I have said many times that I think our players are pretty good, which makes the rubbish they have served up fpr the bulk of the season so hard to put up with. I feel this is a far stronger squad than the one NFP had in 2009/10 yet that squad got within a penalty shootout of a Wembley final despite a huge dressing room bustup on the eve of the first playoff game........

NFP has been in charge for more than 4 months yet there is no real improvement in our attitude and a proper team ethic seems as far away as ever, if he has failed to make an impact in the time he has had so far what makes you think he will do so next season?.......

[marbelladave]

a) Yeah, they have been here since last summer, but they're basically a brand new team, some signings take a good season to bed in, this is most of a new squad. If you're being realistic it's going to take a lot longer.

b) Did you not see the stat from the weekend? In Hobbs and Fryatt, Hull had more Leicester players starting from last season than Leicester did.

c) How can you call those a core? Howard has about 90 minutes worth of game time all season, King has been out for months, pretty sure you don't rate Wellens anyway and Dyer has been on the bench a lot of the time. That's ignoring the fact that that is only 4 players. We need a proper, established set. Schmeichel, Konchesky, at least 1 reliable, consistent centre back, Danns, King, another consistent centre mid, Nugent, Beckford, Dyer, another winger. I'm talking about pretty much a full starting line up. Peripheral players will come and go but having a core of 4 players? When everyone else is interchangeable? That's never going to work.

a) Had we been trying to build a team from youngsters and lower league acquisitions I would agree entirely, but we are not, we have bought established Championship and (ex) Premier league players and I think we have good reason to expect better.

b) So what, we have already established that we have a lot of new players this season.......

c) I did say matchday squad, not necessarily starting XI. Until very recently they all were, when fit, fully involved. I call that a 'core' of establised players, you may not agree......

[Haydos]

a) Had we been trying to build a team from youngsters and lower league acquisitions I would agree entirely, but we are not, we have bought established Championship and (ex) Premier league players and I think we have good reason to expect better.

b) So what, we have already established that we have a lot of new players this season.......

c) I did say matchday squad, not necessarily starting XI. Until very recently they all were, when fit, fully involved. I call that a 'core' of establised players, you may not agree......

Maybe it's just a difference of opinion then. If by the end of next season we have shown no signs of improvement then I'd be very much inclined to agree but I just don't feel the mish mash of signings has had enough time to develop into a 'team' yet and I think that's a big contributor as to why we're 'underperforming'.

[marbelladave]

Maybe it's just a difference of opinion then. If by the end of next season we have shown no signs of improvement then I'd be very much inclined to agree but I just don't feel the mish mash of signings has had enough time to develop into a 'team' yet and I think that's a big contributor as to why we're 'underperforming'.

I genuinely hope you are right and that we start next season with a bang......

I feel we have some very decent players, if NFP can get them playing as a team (doing whatever it takes) then we really do not need that much in the way of reinforcement.

We have seen some signs of progress with individual players most notably Danns and Beckford, so I have some grounds for optimism. What I find it so hard to handle is some of the uncaring, disinterested performances that were so common mid season. I have no problems seeing Leicester lose providing the players have fought and done their best, but some of the performances from our current squad this season pissed me off so badly that I decided back in january to stop going.

At the time I said 'I couldn't be arsed to go because the players, couldn't be arsed to play', I have not, as yet, seen/heard enough to change my mind........

[Number 6]

I have said many times that I think our players are pretty good, which makes the rubbish they have served up fpr the bulk of the season so hard to put up with. I feel this is a far stronger squad than the one NFP had in 2009/10 yet that squad got within a penalty shootout of a Wembley final despite a huge dressing room bustup on the eve of the first playoff game........

NFP has been in charge for more than 4 months yet there is no real improvement in our attitude and a proper team ethic seems as far away as ever, if he has failed to make an impact in the time he has had so far what makes you think he will do so next season?.......

Because 4 months isn't a long time, and we have seen improvement. We've scored in all but 2 games he's managed, including games against Premier opposition.

He's not the type of manager who will come in and change form instantly. He's building something here. The midfield looks infinitely better than the one we had under Sven already. I'm confident we'll get where we want to with NP.

[marbelladave]

Because 4 months isn't a long time, and we have seen improvement. We've scored in all but 2 games he's managed, including games against Premier opposition.

He's not the type of manager who will come in and change form instantly. He's building something here. The midfield looks infinitely better than the one we had under Sven already. I'm confident we'll get where we want to with NP.

Fair 'nuff......

I just think you are a more patient man than I am.....

[Mission Unlikely Promotion]

I agree... With a couple or three additions in key positions. A squad can benefit from a freshening up, some more competition for places but not a complete overhaul. Twould just be going back to the drawing board again IMO.

This, couple or three key signings would be just the ticket imo

[Guest Col city fan]

Because 4 months isn't a long time, and we have seen improvement. We've scored in all but 2 games he's managed, including games against Premier opposition.

He's not the type of manager who will come in and change form instantly. He's building something here. The midfield looks infinitely better than the one we had under Sven already. I'm confident we'll get where we want to with NP.

Very sensible post IMO. Akin to Haydos really. I DO think that Nige is the 'building up a squad' type of manager. I think he's pretty 'old school' in this respect if you like.

And I remain pretty convinced that he knows in his mind now pretty much who he wants to stay and who hes not gonna be overly bothered about.

He also seems to favour the younger player with a good pedigree and with a good attitude about them.

However, my major concern is how long is his plan going to take? And whether he is going to be given sufficient time, by both the owners AND the fans to action it.

[marbelladave]

Very sensible post IMO. Akin to Haydos really. I DO think that Nige is the 'building up a squad' type of manager. I think he's pretty 'old school' in this respect if you like.

And I remain pretty convinced that he knows in his mind now pretty much who he wants to stay and who hes not gonna be overly bothered about.

He also seems to favour the younger player with a good pedigree and with a good attitude about them.

However, my major concern is how long is his plan going to take? And whether he is going to be given sufficient time, by both the owners AND the fans to action it.

Agree with all you say about NFP though I see his uncompromising attitude and desire to buil the squad 'his way' as good reasons why he will have a big clear out this summer.....

And he has to get promotion next season, that for me is a given. The owners will not find anything else acceptable.

[Happy Fox]

Still think we are lacking in the wing positions and creativity from the central midfield areas (Mark Davies role)

So here are some options we could pursue

Giles Barnes- Doncaster

Daniel Ward- Huddersfield

Matt Richie- Swindon

Daniel Powell- MK Dons

Upfront we need a target man

Darius Henderson

Kevin Davies

Kyle Lafferty

Then a CB - Mills and Tunchev imo will go

Harry Maguire

RB - Kevin McNaugton

[Guest Col city fan]

Still think we are lacking in the wing positions and creativity from the central midfield areas (Mark Davies role)

So here are some options we could pursue

Giles Barnes- Doncaster

Daniel Ward- Huddersfield

Matt Richie- Swindon

Daniel Powell- MK Dons

Upfront we need a target man

Darius Henderson

Kevin Davies

Kyle Lafferty

Then a CB - Mills and Tunchev imo will go

Harry Maguire

RB - Kevin McNaugton

Do you trust me HP?

Believe me mate.... Like I said at the start of the season. Ched Evans and Jay Emmanuel Thomas would make a big difference to our team.

Ched..... Quick, strong, good finisher

Jay...... You want a tall, strong midfield ball winner who can also play a bit? You got him in this lad.

Both I suspect would be 'gettable' for the right money. Both young, improving all the time and would see City as a 'step up' I would suspect.

I'd like the pair...

[Happy Fox]

Do you trust me HP?

Believe me mate.... Like I said at the start of the season. Ched Evans and Jay Emmanuel Thomas would make a big difference to our team.

Ched..... Quick, strong, good finisher

Jay...... You want a tall, strong midfield ball winner who can also play a bit? You got him in this lad.

Both I suspect would be 'gettable' for the right money. Both young, improving all the time and would see City as a 'step up' I would suspect.

I'd like the pair...

I was more discussing the wing positions, Ched Evans for me is still a raw for this level of football, not saying he wouldn't adapt but I would hazard a guess he wouldn't break the 10 goal barrier. JET I think a great young talent wouldn't mind him here. I think NP will scour the lower leagues their is awful lot of talent... it will be interesting to see what happens this summer I don't think NP will be given a lot of money, and he will probably have to sell before he buys the high earners : Pantsil, Mills along with Gallagher, Wellens etc will help in that regard.

[Guest Col city fan]

I was more discussing the wing positions, Ched Evans for me is still a raw for this level of football, not saying he wouldn't adapt but I would hazard a guess he wouldn't break the 10 goal barrier. JET I think a great young talent wouldn't mind him here. I think NP will scour the lower leagues their is awful lot of talent... it will be interesting to see what happens this summer I don't think NP will be given a lot of money, and he will probably have to sell before he buys the high earners : Pantsil, Mills along with Gallagher, Wellens etc will help in that regard.

I think you're right..

Sell before we buy I think will be the Thais expectation and Pearson's way.

Don't be surprised if he tries to sell one or two you wouldn't expect. IMO anyway.

It will be fascinating.

[Happy Fox]

I think you're right..

Sell before we buy I think will be the Thais expectation and Pearson's way.

Don't be surprised if he tries to sell one or two you wouldn't expect. IMO anyway.

It will be fascinating.

As long as Kasper, Konchesky, Nugent, Danns and Beckford? ( I would like him to stay but it depends what impression he has made on NP)... but if Beckford does leave we would need at least two forwards : Jordan Rhodes and Jay Rodriguez? I don't particularly rate Waghorn that much Beckford > Waghorn.

NP will offload at the very minimum imo: Mills, Pantsil, Wellens, Gallagher, Howard

In the second category : Bamba, Beckford, Vassell

[Guest]

I think we need to hold football players accountable for what they do on the pitch. A more american approach is needed in the training of players. We need to invest in video technology and player statistics more and then get the players to do their homework on the opposition.

In the NBA where they play an 82 game regular season plus playoffs - where players play 3 times a week and work hard enough to be sweating within minutes of playing. the tendancies of every player are monitored and then players get a video summary of what the opposition players are likely to do in any given situation. We need to do this in football. Do opposing players have a tendancy to go left, to shoot from distance, to back pedal in defence. do they chase down the ball or just go to one player once and then stop, Do they behave differently at different times of the game or in different situations etc...

If NBA players can assimulate all of this information and put it into action then football players should be able to do to. Leicester should become the pioneers in video technology and work their players harder. We seem to treat Football like a knock around on the park and players earning millions shouldn't be doing that.

[Guest Col city fan]

I think we need to hold football players accountable for what they do on the pitch. A more american approach is needed in the training of players. We need to invest in video technology and player statistics more and then get the players to do their homework on the opposition.

In the NBA where they play an 82 game regular season plus playoffs - where players play 3 times a week and work hard enough to be sweating within minutes of playing. the tendancies of every player are monitored and then players get a video summary of what the opposition players are likely to do in any given situation. We need to do this in football. Do opposing players have a tendancy to go left, to shoot from distance, to back pedal in defence. do they chase down the ball or just go to one player once and then stop, Do they behave differently at different times of the game or in different situations etc...

If NBA players can assimulate all of this information and put it into action then football players should be able to do to. Leicester should become the pioneers in video technology and work their players harder. We seem to treat Football like a knock around on the park and players earning millions shouldn't be doing that.

Makes me think of 'Mike Bassett, England Manager' where Davie Dodds missis had recorded over the video of the Poland game with 'ground force'.. 'you don't many of them to the pound'...

lol