The Horse's Mouth

Sunderland was a very different situation was a massive basket case club and lead to back to back relegations, they treaded water for several years. He saved West Ham twice took them from relegation to the top 6. I think it’s a futile argument cause he can probably do better, but he is without doubt the best in class available and anyone turning their nose up on him is wild

Ranieri and Rodgers are the only two that are firmly cemented in our history tbh

The geezer has won 2 in 11 you’re just a fit Steve cooper

Moyes has a literal body of work which implies he is without the best candidate for the job. You’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think someone like RVN is even remotely qualified. We need to stay up, no gambles no half measures get the best in class

Genuinely don’t understand what kind of a person you’ve got to be to turn your nose up at Moyes

And I gave you proof that would indicate the assertion that people who voted Starmer have probably done a U turn, I’d imagine more within the red wall than the metropolitan areas though. You’re a bit to fixated with the petition which is a red herring.

Wasn’t my argument your argument was the idea most havent U turned on Starmer and you’ve simple based your case on this isn’t the case cause some Bangladeshis signed a petition

You only to look at his approval numbers

It is really thick, if anything should be pushed from this point is a more proportional system, not like the tories are any better, least Starmer is quite transparent

Does feel like every time I wake up it’s what’s Starmer done now

Pearson Ranieri Rodgers Puel Enzo Shakey Sven Smith Cooper Sousa Defo gonna get pelters for Puel but I think long term his decisions benefitted us massively

Should only be Moyes give him keys to the city

I’ve defended him a bit but I’ll be the honest this whole the referees are against us shit he does every game he needs to pack it in.

It’s actually not a bad idea when you think about it, allows people to be appointed on merit and their respective accolades. Pretty sure they need senate approval

He’s gotta be doing this deliberately now

I’m confused why it’s still going, considering they canned mock the week. Mock the week obvs fell off a cliff but even the later ones I found a lot more watchable than HIGNFY.

Don’t make them like Prescott anymore rip

It’s a combination of that I’d agree, I think it was also the types that were protesting too. Large perception of them were students with nothing to do looking to cause a nuisance. I also think it is because green policies are a bit divisive as well amongst the general public, it’s a bit of a hard one because most will admit there’s an issue, but it’s the severity and the actual means to wish we remedy it that creates bigger debate. I think with this one in particular of the recent protest, although it was a strike I think the rail strike is probably the closest to it, where it effectively became ideological and I’m not sure whether it’s because in these cases they’ve both got I guess figureheads, albeit in slightly different capacities.Mick Lynch became a great cult figure amongst the left, which made the right push back and support the government. In this case you’ve got Clarkson who is guilty of what the changes is meant to stop as well, who’s always traditionally been disliked by the left, becoming the man of the people amongst the farmers.

The poorest will be affected by it the most, you’ve also tenanted farmers that’ll probably get evicted off the back of it. The not savvy will suffer and will probably be forced to sell to private equity companies. Think that’s a warped mindset, Reform, The Tories and the Lib Dem’s all came out for this, and the most likely reason for that is to win favour with rural constituencies. Doesn’t devalue the message

My two cents on it would be, say with the recent strikes, farmers, nurses and teachers. You’re able to evaluate from that, the value each role has to society they all have a direct message on what their demands are, Majority of people will have sympathies for all three groups in what they contribute to society So the just stop oil protests for example, I’ve no idea if they wanted a radical shut off and have society decay immediately, or a quicker net zero goal or whatever. So the overall messaging is fuzzy, Them targeting regular working people trying to earn a living was also never going to sit right with the vast majority of people as well, I think had they just stuck to westminster or oil companies or whatever, the institutions that do the most harm to the environment they’d have had a bit more sympathy than they had at the time.

Well that wasn’t really my argument, the argument was the less farmers and less production we do for our own food supply, it will just result in us importing even more and ultimately being a big effect on the environment. I definitely agree that a lot of farming methods can be evolved, but it’s usually down to funding and farmers don’t really get compensated for the work they do.

If this cost is reducing our natural production to the food supply to then resort to import even more goods that’ll surely do more damage?

I don’t agree with IHT in general, personally the issue I’ve found with it this in particular, is it’ll probably work in terms of detering people like Dyson and clarkson buying them for that reason. But the super wealthy will always find a way to dodge the tax bill. I think the main concern is this’ll just turn into a massive land grab from corporations, and maybe a little suspicious from me but potential government contracts on this land to support the new wind initiative.

Just saw they’re calling Starmer farmer harmer and made me think has a PM had better slander names than Keir so far?

Really too early to tell, it’s the flavour of the month of the back of a few high profile defections, similar to threads at the time. But I do stand behind the idea, the concept isn’t strong enough to rival X like that. I think best case scenario it’s a nice little haven for the target demographic.